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/STG/ Slide Thread General #2

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:12:31 No.13071438 View View Reply Original Report

Old Thread >>13025398

After 61,000 words, talking about Slide Threads, Jews, and finally communism. The old thread reached the bump limit. I'm sure it will die quickly, so here is the link to the arcive.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/bant/search/tnum/13025398/page/13/

/STG/ Started as a response to the aggressive sliding of /PBG/ President Biden General, a satirical thread about Joe Biden being a child rapist.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/bant/search/tnum/12981237/page/11/

This was fun for everyone except for maybe the Brit who might have killed himself. Anyways.

This is a continuation of /STG/ where you can discuss slide threads, or in the nature of /bant/ come talk some shit about anything you want.

The last thread had 61,000 words, which is longer than Lord of the Flies by William Golding. In respects to that book /STG/ is essentially Lord of the Shitposters, where me and, at the moment, one unemployed Canadian communist come to argue.

If you want to join the party, feel free to talk some shit.

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Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:29:13 No.13071497 Report

Quoted By: >>13071504

Hi schizo, what topic are you thinking about spamming today?

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:30:35 No.13071500 Report

Quoted By: >>13079077

>>13071438
Ok back to arguing with the Canadian boy.

>>What sort of logic is that? Are you ok with the sadness?
>No where did you come to the conclusion that I was?

You said you didn't care about the peasant's happiness.

>A classless system with slaves is an oxymoron.

That's just a false statement. There is only 1 "class" of people, slaves, thus this is a classless society. The only way to have "Less than one class" of people is to have a set with 0 people in it. Otherwise there is at least one class. Classless means "everyone has the same class". It doesn't mean there are 0 classes, because then there are 0 people.

>strip 100% of people of 100% of power.
>Hierarchies will exist as long as society exists

Then communism resolves nothing? What? Your argument is to "destroy the social hierarchy", then you just say "social hierarchy is unavoidable unless everyone is dead". This comically does align with your 0 class system, because that also has 0 people in it

The point is an extensive system of checks and balances, one of those "everybody only has a part of they key to the door, but they have to put it in at the same time for the door to open", typical sort of "you need friendship to pass this test" moments in movies.

>>GDP per capita
That's extremely inaccurate then. What? You wanted income stratification of America?

>Bottom Quintile: $15,286
>below poverty line
>Middle Class Nigerien
>553.90

The bottom 20% of America makes 27.59x as much as the middle class Nigerien. This is 2759% as much money. This money buys a middle class lifestyle in Niger, but only buys poverty in America. This is the cost of a decadent society. There is far less decadence in Niger.

>2021 poverty rate of 13.7 percent

So that would mean about 6% of them are retired people with holdings and property but little income, while 13.7% of this bottom 20% actually live in poverty

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:31:27 No.13071504 Report

Quoted By: >>13071507 >>13071521

>>13071497
I'm fighting with a Canadian about communism for the past couple days. He's a fighter, it's fucking intense. It's impossible to reason with this man.

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Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:33:16 No.13071507 Report

Quoted By: >>13071533

>>13071504
Have you ever thought about posting this stuff on Vixra as pdfs so that it has more permanence than ephemeral threadshit?

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:37:38 No.13071521 Report

Quoted By: >>13079107

>>13071504
>Objective quality of life
>What you're describing is just cost of living, not quality of life.
>You even previously admitted that many africans are happier than americans/canadians/icelanders despite being worse off materially

Yes. I'm saying that cost of living does not produce quality of life or happiness. I'm saying that "eating the rich" will not improve your happiness.

You are unhappy because you were abused by decadence as a child, and this in turn caused your "baseline expectations of quality of life" to be set very high as a child. When you became an adult, you became an admittedly "mentally ill criminal" and you could not sustain this quality of life you expected as your baseline due to lack of funding. Since your life "Changed for the worse" this makes you unhappy, and since you live below your "expected baseline quality of life" you are unhappy 100% of the time.

This is how happiness works. The Nigerien has a much lower "baseline expectation for quality of life" because he was not abused by decadence as a child. This makes it much easier for him to improve his life for the better, thus feel happier. It is much harder for the Nigerien to fall from a 3/10 life to a 2/10 life than it is for you, a Canadian raised in decadence, to fall from an 8/10 life to a 7/10 life.

Decadence here doesn't mean "caviar and cocaine every day", it just means some form of self-iindulgence which somebody who is poor in Africa would not experience. Even McDonalds is decadence, even though it is seen as "poor people food". It's not "extravagant luxury", it's just the comforts of consumersim, which I'm confident that you had plenty of access to as a child, considering that every poor person I have known has had plenty of exposure to things like McDonald's, accessible manufactured foods, flavored beverages, and things like this which are "better than the basics", of simple water and simple home cooked food from the cheapest staple crops available.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:45:21 No.13071533 Report

Quoted By: >>13071545

>>13071507
>Vixra as pdfs

It's on the archives, so that's fine. Nobody reads it except for a few stray randos and text-crawlers that use it for machine learning. It's mainly written for the text-crawlers. Most humans have no interest in reading.

>it's material equity if that makes sense

The issue is that this doesn't make sense. Material equity is contrary to the Economy of Scale. The only "material equity" that makes sense is ensuing that the human needs are met in the most basic way possible to ensure sustainable, reliable labor, without any additional "frills". The only "equality" that is valid is being equal in dirt.

Everything else is waste. It's no different than burning money or communist money or whatever the fuck has value. You're burning it in the name of decadence, which is worthless and provides nothing other than inevitable discontentment in the peasants due to withdrawals from hedonistic consumption.

"Material equity" is a ridiculously self-centered argument despite the fact that economics rewards those who think selflessly. The exploitation of the laborer is just a means to ensure that they are selfless, because this selflessness is how an economy becomes powerful. Your argument is the antithesis of function with respect to any economy, regardless of whether you have money, property, or anything.

Even without any of these, "material equity" is the antithesis of a functioning economy because material needs to be concentrated in order to be most efficiently converted into value. The more concentrated the material is, the more efficiently it can be converted into value.

When you spread out the material, you lose potential value due to inefficiency. This is why the American Secondary industries collapsed due to the unions. This spread out the material, replaced investment in manufacturing with wasteful decadence, and then these industries found themselves unable to remain solvent and they collapsed.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 18:53:32 No.13071545 Report

Quoted By: >>13071561 >>13079112

>>13071533
>Maybe don't be a fucking crimnial? I don't know.
>Mate, they literally did it for wrongthink.

I highly fucking doubt it.

>In Canada, the right to free speech is protected under section 2(b) of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

> unduly limited freedom of speech as it related to the making or publication of false statements. In the end result, freedom of speech won.

>Section 91(1) had been introduced into Canada's federal election legislation in 2000. At the time, it prohibited anyone from knowingly making or publishing false statements about the personal character or conduct of a candidate before or during an election with the intention of affecting the results of an election.

Were you making false statements about a politician? I don't get it.

That's fucking slander or libel. Yes, that's a crime. Don't be a fucking criminal. Explain exactly what happened Mr. "Wrongthink".

I don't get arrested, despite my rhetoric, because I understand the law. I don't break the law. I don't make threats. That's about all I have to do, because "false statements" are considered satire of a public figure so long as I don't assert that they're "true and real statements" by doing things such as pressing charges or publishing them alongside "credible news".

>Many people are dependent on their slavery to survive. That's the issue with freedom.
>Freedom is slavery

Orwell wrote that book to criticize the advancement of communist-style propaganda and police-states in the West. Clearly you're not going to accept this , but never the less.

>Many people are dependent on their slavery to survive.

You didn't address this point. You just said "Freedom is Slavery", which is not what I said. I said "These people will die if you don't enslave them."

Slavery here, in this context, is "The removal of some of all of the wages from a person in order to provide them food, shelter, and upkeep in exchange for labor, with or without the consent of the slave"

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:01:30 No.13071561 Report

Quoted By: >>13071568

>>13071545

>>there is a high chance that the dog will do something stupid like eat garbage and sick

>Too bad, if it stays in people's houses it sometimes eats clothes or something that harms it anyway.

The fact is that the human in the house can prevent the dog from doing those things that harm itself. In the absence of a human master, the dog is far more likely to harm himself.

>All those things help them and are voluntarily done by the people themselves. Fuck the anti cigarette shills cigs unironically have many health benefits.

Dog, I don't know where you are coming from. How is 100% of this shit lies? You don't think that it is ever once in the best interest of the government to tell the slaves the truth? Really?

Often times it is far more beneficial to tell the slaves the truth than it is to lie to them.

>you see your slaves
>they have a bag of poison in their hand
>they ask "What is this master?"
>Do you...
>tell the truth, say "That's posion, don't eat it."
>or do you
>lie, say "That's magic medicine to help you live."
>thus killing your own slaves and source of income

I fucking swear. Let me tell you a story.

>I was talking to George W. Bush
>The 43rd President of the United States of America
>He said ""in all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of the initial state"

Is this 100% false bullshit now, just because my boy, G.W. said it? I need to know.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:07:26 No.13071568 Report

Quoted By: >>13071585

>>13071561

>Increase attention
>Cure constipation
>Lower the risk of parkinson's
Can't get much more based than that

The issue is that cigarettes have severe negative health effects and cause cancer. There are benefits to smoking cigarettes, but these can be gained from sources that are much less harmful to the slave than cigarettes. Why do you want a sick slave? You own a dog, you would rather him be sick and crippled than healthy? No.

Shooting a man in the hips with a fucking shotgun slug "cures constipation", but that doesn't make it a safe or reasonable cure for constipation. Does this make sense?

>>The same way that you teach a dog not to bite. It is an aggressive psychological conditioning program from that results in an intense aversion to criminal behavior. There is also the prohibition of all things which may lead to crime.
>The dog still bites sometimes anyway.

Yes, but the dog bites much less frequently. This is not an argument.

>"If I teach my kid to use the toilet, sometimes he will still piss himself, albiet much less frequently. Thus, there is no benefit to teaching the child to use the toilet, and by extension, no benefit to the exitence of toilets." This is your argument.

It's just concerning that your mental health and rational thinking is so poor. You are just desperate for anything to justify your sentiments and you have no interest to listening to even the most basic reasoning that is entirely independent of any political ideology.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:17:11 No.13071585 Report

Quoted By: >>13071601

>>13071568
>>There are very few professional thieves and few professional hustlers
>Really, what area of the states are you in? Here in southern ontario they are both big, I even used to be part of a thieve cooperative myself.

A professional thief would be a burglar. There is little ability to operate as a pickpocket outside of major cities because there is little foot traffic. A lot of "thieving" is against commercial structures like stripping copper because fencing consumer goods and jewelry is harder.

>I even used to be part of a thieve cooperative myself.

Ok, so you're again just a mentally ill criminal who is uspet that the world hates you because you're a mentally ill criminal. I hate to say it again, but I will. You're just "mad cuz bad". That's all this is.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:27:38 No.13071601 Report

Quoted By: >>13071616 >>13071629 >>13079122

>>13071585
>>There is also the prohibition of all things which may lead to crime.
>Yeah, let's prohibit alcohol again, because that went sooo well

Are you tempted by "Ultra-classified CIA hyper-drug that gives you genius level intellect, pleasure 10x greater than shooting up the purest speed balls, and provides a high bonus to intelligence, and cures most all mild to moderate mental and psychological ailments"?

No. You've never once been tempted by this drug because you are unaware of it. The same is true about alcohol. Once the last generation of people who knew about alcohol died off, then nobody would ever be tempted by alcohol because they don't know about it.

>muh poor black homeless people

https://www.usa.gov/benefits

All of those people qualify for free rent, free food, free healthcare, and often some form of social security for being disabled. These people choose to be homeless or again are otherwise too dysfunctional to survive with the freedom they are given. Pan handling often makes far more money than having a wage job. Maybe you should try it if you want "$20/hr".

>Why are these people homeless?

I explain that with the dog. These people are the dogs that go out and eat the garbage and get sick because their master lets them off the leash.

These are the people killing themselves with their freedoms, much like you, Mr. Criminal Communist "totally innocent" man who hates any sort of rational logic and subjects himself to a disconcerting level of paranoia and delusions about the government.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:34:22 No.13071616 Report

Quoted By: >>13079096

>>13071601
>sociology being valid

Sociology is nothing but preumption and opinons based upon trends. It's nothing more than an "educated guess", and when there are no hard empirical proofs which are independently replicable, that the "science" must provide to verify their arguments, this ceases to be science and becomes a vector of propaganda.

There's no "standard of truth" in this field, it's all opinion, projection, and "educated guesses" made from observation. Without hard, objective constraints, this allows people like the government to manipulate data, insert their own desired "educated guesses" in response to the findings of studies, and otherwise easily control this field to ensure it serves a means to their desired ends.

No reasonable state would give authority to academics. There is too much to lose and too little to gain by giving these people freedom without aggressive oversight to ensure that they don't reveal information which is contary to the desired ends of the government. This is a police-state, clearly the "academics" are smart enough to understand this and are not willing to question this.

It is a soft-hand approach in which the "executive board" of journals and the "money men" who provide funding for studies suggest to the researchers the "facts" they want "discovered" by these "academcis" who then design a study to produce the results and findings desired by the government.

It may have been an earnest attempt at reason at some point, but the lack of objective constraints left it far too vulnerable to abuse and exploitation by the powers that be.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:41:22 No.13071629 Report

Quoted By: >>13071644 >>13071658

>>13071601

>>The emancipation proclamation didn't "Free the slaves" it just reduced White people to the same status as slaves
>Where is the empirical evidence that this was the case?

They exist in the same social class which is wage-slave. The lowest ranking person in society is always the slave. 90% of Whites are wage slaves with no entrepreneurial-office from which to enslave others. These people who work for a company owned by somebody else are wage slaves.

Only if you own your own business and employ people, only if you do not have a boss, do you exist in this "middle class", the "elites" remain the puppet-government and the plutocrats who own it.

Blacks and Whites exist at the same social status, this is the lowest group in society, thus they are slaves.

>contradicting your statement on blacks somehow being "chronically disengaged from society"

If blacks were not chronically disengaged from society they would be equally as successful as all of the other minories. People were always racist against Asians, but that didn't stop the Asians from becoming successful.

>America does nothing but lower the bar for the blacks.
>They refuse to jump over it

Do you notice how in Med School applications, if a black and Asian get the same score, the black person has an 80% chance to be accepted, while the Asian has a 20% chance of being accepted? This is what lowering the bar for blacks means. This is what America has done for the past 60 years. The black community collectively refuses to jump over it.

It's like you don't know any black people, because there is a strong general disinterest in engaging with white society. You can say this is caused by racism, but never the less.

>its' not that "the blacks try, but racism prevents them from succeeding.
>It's that "racism prevents the blacks from trying, thus they don't succeed"

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:47:24 No.13071644 Report

Quoted By: >>13079125

>>13071629

>but for the bourgeoisie this system is very convenient. After all, it's catered towards them anyway.

No. The rich lose endless amounts of money due to the inefficiency of the American system. This is because the American rich are damn near as feckless and irreverent to rational logic as yourself. They do the bare minimum, try to get some money, but generally don't give any fucks.

The Chinese purpose-built factory is the efficient design. American "whatever the fuck wherever if you've got the money" strategy is fucking retarded because people have "individual rights and civil liberties" and this cripples efficiency which could be attained by forcing these people into an efficient system, rather than allowing them to use their "muh freedom" to build the inefficient and problematic system we have today.

>The land could also be used for a park let's say, or a playground or parking lot or anything else for that matter.

No, we have plenty of those. We have lots of wasted "low-buget" "public works" where the developers generally just shit whatever they can on whatever land they can buy without any real deference to the cohesion of society as a whole. Every peice of property functions as a little island, and this cause immense inefficiency, especially with pointless "competition" on the consumer level leading to wasteful redundancy with little beyond "consumerist pleasure" gained in the process.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:54:03 No.13071658 Report

Quoted By: >>13071672

>>13071629

>>Even the clothes on your back are property of the state, and that is all you have.
>If that's really the system you want, people would steal that shit anyway. No one would care who the shirt belongs to.

That's fucking ridiculous. Clearly you're just an anti-social criminal with a mental illness that predisposes you to this behavior, even without any sort of personal gain. You are the type of person to commit arson because you find it entertaining.

The reason why the majority of people commit crimes is either due to desperation, temptation unto personal gains, or irrational psychological compulsions compelling them to act violently.

>You would just end up with a massive prison riot that would overthrow the authority.

Just like every time that dude with 3 dogs finds out that his dogs are rioting and overthrowing his authority.

>There are alternatives to money (food & commodity stamps and labor vouchers)

Yes, scrips. You want a scrip system? Ok.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrip

Enjoy the scrips. I'd bring back scrips in a fucking heartbeat. The world would be a better place if all of the fucking peasants got paid in scrips.

>What puts the masters above the peasants then?

The masters are just people who orchestrate the lives of the peasants, design their lives, their fabricated reality, their housing, and their education. These "masters" are equally as much enslaved by each other, as they use the same system to optimize themselves as they do to optimize the peasants.

No, none of these people are paid in scrips. Prisoners don't need a scrip to get a meal.

>Peasants would just take whatever they wanted

Just like how you walk into that big consumer goods store and steal everything you want, right? Because you're not a massive pussy and a coward who is afraid of the authority, right? That makes sense. Good point.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:00:43 No.13071672 Report

Quoted By: >>13071690 >>13071708 >>13071728

>>13071658

>Clearly they aren't when they have power over the masses.

They would also probably take advantage of that power and be corrupt. They have no ability to hold capital. The man who manages the food for peasant Pod B lives over in Peasant Pod A. His food is controlled by somebody else. He exists in a world where he has no capacity to benefit from his own corruption, he has no property, the system is designed this way. He has no "hope for a better life" because the only alternative is death. There is no escape, there is no way to change anything, and there is nothing in his own life that he is in control of, other than his labor and the merits of his labor, because everything else in his life, despite him being a master of peasants, is controlled by another master that this man does not interact with.

>How is there no corruption?

See above

>The low classes of society aren't in their situation because they are genetically inferior.

Cope.

>Most of the analysts who discuss systemic racism attack the state for perpetuating it.

This is called controlled opposition and it is used to create the illusion that "the words of the peasants are meaningful and change the government". This is propaganda designed to content the peasants so they can clap their hands and say "we changed the world for the better" like autistic children every time "their voice matters". Here's how it works

>The government wants to change X to Y
>The government goes to academics
>government says "Make a study that shows X should be change to Y"
>academics produce the study
>Government goes to news
>say "This study says X should be changed to Y"
>The government tells the media "teach the peasants to complain about how X is bad and how they want Y"
>The media does it
>The peasants cry and scream "We want X to be changed to Y"
>The government, after some "dramatic tension" changes X to Y
>The peasant all clap and cheer like autistic children
>"We did it! We changed the world!"
>repeat

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:07:54 No.13071690 Report

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>>13071672
>You're dismissing a criticism of the system and thereby defending it.

The state creates these criticisms. Why do you believe that you live in a police-state that "monitors you, controls you, harrasses you, oppresses you, and enslaves you", yet at the same time think academia is "free, magical, powerful, fighting the government, not oppressed, not controlled, and unmonitored by the government". This is pure double-think.

>I think it realizes the basic things that are relevant to it's life. When the owner beats the dog when it tries to go outside it realizes that it's being oppressed.

The dog quickly learns not to be beaten. Most people with dogs aren't beating their dogs either.

I'll tell you right now. I know some very small, very unsavory imaginary people. They are terrible criminals, very mentally ill, and they cause very many problems. They have absolutely no capacity for rational logic and generally always claim to be the victim. They create many problems through their own volition, then blame random powerful people like yourself for the fact that these problems are harming these little imaginary people. Maybe stop oppressing those imaginary people, because otherwise they might just overthrow the evil tyrannical capitalist system of your mind that is oppressing them.

>"everything is opppressed! The dog is oppressed! Oppression! "

It's a dog. It's not oppressed. This is in

>And why should I care about how much your slaves work?

because the slaves are humans, all humans are governed by the same psychological principles

>>20 million is still a shitload people
Most of them deserved it,

You're going to be with them the next time around. You know this, right? You're literally the first to go. The "true believers". After the revolution, your purpose does not exist anymore, you become nothing but a menace to society again, so you are killed.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:16:02 No.13071708 Report

Quoted By: >>13071752

>>13071672

>20 million is still a shitload people
Most of them deserved it,

How the fuck do you go right back to crying about black people agian after this? It's cool to just murder 20 million civiliians in the name of political policy, but then go back to

"boo hoo! muh poor black folk! I'm so sad they are getting hurt so bad by the evil governmen!t please save us from this bad evil government that is killing us! especially these poor black people!"

It's absolute insanity.

>>Somehow it's "America's fault" that Africans die?
Yes it is considering the fact that America invaded many of those countries

>America is the reason that death exists
>ok

>I don't know a damn thing about Castro.
Then stop debating things you are uneducated on. I recommend reading this article to learn some basics about him.

If there was anything relevant about Castro I would know it. The reason I don't know much about him is because he's fucking inconsequential.

Judging from your ability to reason I would be better of huffing paint than engaging with the texts that have managed to indoctrinate you into this abomination absent of any reasoning whatsoever.

>When did I say I'm mentally ill? I

You're clearly incredibly delusional and paranoid. "Mate, they literally did it for wrongthink." , literally you said this. You also admit to being part of a "I even used to be part of a thieve cooperative myself."

You're clearly not the victim here. You victimize people. Are you really just pushing me to post more Joe Rape memes? Are we just saying "The criminal is innocent and the victim is guilty" now? I always find that to be entertaining.

>I got nothing from them, they only give free shit to cucks who work for them

?? "Those who do not work deserve to be paid, while those who work deserve to be robbed."?? Ok, Mr Gang of thieves.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:22:17 No.13071728 Report

Quoted By: >>13074760

>>13071672

>>"You have to be a good goy and follow everything the state tells you to do"
>No thanks I can think for myself

Clearly the fuck you can't. All you do is parrot propaganda. You can't understand even the most basic forms of rational, coherent logic. You can't understand any of the hypocrisy of your logic, and you can't understand that you're not the victim here.

Society is the victim of you. The USSR would be the victim of you. Canada is the victim of you. You're not the victim here. Every society in the world would send you to the gulag because you make society they victim of your own existence.

>I'm a "bad person" because I disagree with the government and criticized it.

You're a bad person because you're a criminal, you refuse to work, and you demand the world to prostrate itself before some clearly irreverent, irrational, dysfunctional human being with no capacity for basic logic and common sense.

>By that logic you're also a bad person then.

I'm a terrible person. Yes. I'm just not dysfunctionally stupid.

>God you're such a fucking hypocrite.

Also true. Everyone is a hypocrite, there's no reason to pretend otherwise. It's just a matter of protecting yourself at the end of the day.

>No, the government called it "totalitarian" during their propaganda campaigns in schools and you believed it.

I'm talking about real communism, not magical communism that exists in the fucking mass graves in the gulag for all of the "true believers" like you who have no purpose to the world after the revolution.

>Stateless communism existed before in places like revolutionary catalonia and makhnovia in ukraine.

And do you know what happened? Those places were conquered by the 1-party-authoritarian-statist regimes of Franco and the USSR. That's just real communism with extra steps.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:29:47 No.13071752 Report

Quoted By: >>13071757 >>13079140

>>13071708

>The state started to wither away and the nations were in the process of becoming communist until the death of stalin.

I don't know where you get your information from, but this shit is like a fairy tale to you. Just so you know, you're going to gulag for slandering Stalin, you're parroting Western propaganda. Clearly Stalin was much better than that and far more communist.

>No it won't, it will stop eating and save some food for later. Only the most retarded dogs will overeat.

This is just a blatantly false statement.

Literally every single fucking dog on this planet will overeat and become obese because they're dogs and cannot question or overpower their instinct that compels them to eat food when it is available unless they are on the brink of death.

>Look at China. That's communism
You're ignorant then because china has a large private sector and legally recognizes private property. It also has classes and exploitation.

This is the product of a Commuist revolution. How will Mentall ill Canadian Thief Communism somehow avoid this downfall, when "Sane, sober, healthy, hard-working, Soviet and Chinese communist revolutions orchestrated by people with the capacity for rational logic and critical thinking resulted in what we now see as China?" the USSR was hardly different from modern China in any way. Hating China but loving the USSR is pure double-think.

>Did your family happen to be nazis?

What you might like to call "bourgeois", which was literally everyone who wasn't a peasant living in the dirt, had nothing to lose, and was willing to go along with whatever whoever has a gun says. This is me right now. I live in the dirt and go along with whatever anyone with a gun has to say. It's a good life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Communist_revolutions

This is a start. Find one of these that didn't quickly result in the dominance of a 1-party-totalitarain regime which used violence and militancy to ensure the compliance of peasants.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:31:55 No.13071757 Report

Quoted By: >>13071763

>>13071752
>Although once the bourgeoisie has been abolished the state starts to wither away and loses its functions.

This is contrary to basic economics. This is contrary to the economy of scale. The reason these communist revolutions always produced 1-party-totalitarian regimes is because this is a necessity regardless of the means of enslaving the peasants. Without this all-powerful state, there is nothing to redirect the peasants unto the most legitimate forms of labor that empower the "nation" if you really hate the state.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:34:30 No.13071763 Report

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>>13071757
One more Joe Rape for the road. This is exhausting. Never the less, just tone it back. Clearly we're wasting our time for the most part.

Just so you know, I do see Joe Rape and the trans-consensual-sex-kings as victims of terrible systematic discrimination and oppression, solely due to the color of their pride flags. Clearly this is caused by the capitalist pigs trying to steal all of the value of the labor produced by these trans-consensual-sex-kings when they go out and have trans-consensual-sex, which is very valuable and entitles them to 20 /hr wages, gauranteed, 24/7, and lots of benefits.

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Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Fri 02 Jul 2021 20:40:32 No.13071780 Report

Quoted By: >>13071857

Nice round of talking to yourself under the guise or replying to some guy who is long gone. You deserve a pat on the back for all that wasted effort.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 21:00:05 No.13071857 Report

Quoted By: >>13071870 >>13074876 >>13078984

>>13071780
Oh, he'll be back. He's an unemployable Canadian criminal. He has nothing better to do.

Go read the 60,000 words of the last thread. You could read a great novel like Lord of the Flies instead, but no, elect for Lord of the Shitposters.

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Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Fri 02 Jul 2021 21:04:49 No.13071870 Report

Quoted By: >>13071967

>>13071857
I think even reading a bad novel would probably be more enjoyable than reading ranting.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 21:50:53 No.13071967 Report

Quoted By: >>13071993

>>13071870
>I think even reading a bad novel would probably be more enjoyable than reading ranting.

It is, reading ranting sucks major cock. Reading books is unquestionably the superior form of reading. The fun part is talking shit to the other guy. That's why it's better than reading a novel. You can't talk shit to the people in the book. You can talk shit to the idiot who's ranting online. That's the kicker.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:01:17 No.13071993 Report

Quoted By: >>13071999

>>13071967
(Reposts from prior start here)

The statement "A triangle has 3 sides" is a fact, not an opinion. The statement "A triangle has 4 sides" is an incorrect statement, not an opinion.

An opinion doesn't have "right or wrong". An opinon says "I think the Movie Bio Dome starring Paulie Shore, Steven Baldwin, and William Atherton is the greatest movie of all time". This is an opinion, it can't be right or wrong because it is purely subjective judement.

Is this opinion a popular one? No.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115683/

IMDB says Bio-Dome has a 4.4/10 rating, so even though the vast majority of people will disagree with this opinion, this does not make the opinion "wrong".

Confirm that you understand the difference between a fact, an incorrect statement, and an opinion. If not, ask questions to help clarify.

>It's as wrong as you thinking that morality is something that it's not.

Morality, in its current form, is an entirely subjective opinion based system. There are no "empirical arguments" in traditional morality. There is no hard, codified, unquestionable science in the same way there is with math which provides and objective, impartial definition of a triangle.

There is no objective, impartial definition of morality, however, I propose one. This is not accepted by anyone beyond myself so far as I know.

The statement "Morality, in its current form, is an opinion" is a factual, true statement. The statement "Your moral principles are wrong" is an opinion thus cannot be a true or false statement. People can have any opinion they want, regardless of any justifications, because that's how opinions work. Look at my example with Bio-Dome, clearly an unpopular opinion, but you wouldn't say that it isn't an opinion, would you?

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:01:43 No.13071997 Report

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>>13071225

>Peer reviews are done by independent scientists

You live in a police state, yet you think these people have the authority to "operate and do research independent of government oversight, regulation, influence, coercion, and domineering"?

>>>/gif/20320605

This video is a real Soviet Communist explaining the current situation of Western Universities. You are very naive and particularly gullible, are you aware of this?

Have people often tricked you or exploited you by lying to you, taking advantage of your obliviousness to their intentions and motivations in the past?

>peer reviewed study =/= government source

Please, watch the video, it is very good. This is a legit communist. These are people you should be looking up to if you're a communist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA [Embed]

This is the full version. You don't seem to understand much of the reality of the world.

> Being free to go wherever is at least a start.

You're free to go where you please so long as it doesn't conflict with the intersts of your masters. You can't walk into the CIA building and get your dick sucked, have a free doughnut, then walk out with a random handful of classified information. Your freedom is limited by the interests of your masters, this is the illusion of freedom.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:02:06 No.13071999 Report

Quoted By: >>13072001 >>13072003 >>13079170

>>13071993

>Except it's not a fair trade, capitalist takes profit

You don't understand that the fact that this man takes the profit is the reason why there is a place to work in the first place. It takes money to make money. This is the economy of scale.

Money needs to be concentrated in order to produce the greatest possible yield from that money. If you invest $100 independently, 1,000 times, in 1,000 small scale $100 projects, this will not be able to produce anwhere near investing $1,000,000 one time into a large scale project.

The Economy of Scale is the backbone of both capitalism and communism. This is a concept which transcends "capitalism" and this concept is the entire reason why communism strips the peasants of rights and redirects their labor. This is because the communist nations didn't have an economy of scale, they needed one, so they overpowered the peasants and forced them do do this through 5-year-plans.

This was the entire point of communism. This is how China became so powerful. Being able to harness the Economy of Scale without bleeding money to the peasants who squander the money is the sole point of communism.

> slavery

I define slavery as "the means through which the peasants are compelled to work", that's what slavery is. It doesn't mean "whips and chains"

https://marzipanmaddox.medium.com/an-overview-and-history-of-common-types-of-slavery-7b6eb65837ed

>stop calling everything you dislike slaver

I don't dislike slavery, clearly I'm an avid proponent of slavery. Slavery is the backbone of all civilization and it always has been. I just argue that some types of slavery are less productive and efficient than others, especially vice slavery.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:02:23 No.13072001 Report

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>>13071999
>The worker doesn't realize that he could overthrow the pig and improve his life because he is preoccupied with working.

Goodness. Let me tell you a story.

>There is a big mean pig
>You kill the pig
>you eat the pig
>You're fat and happy
>Now there's nothing left to eat
>You starve to death
>You eat each other

This is the story of the people who "kill the pig", because that "pig" is not a pig. It is a milk cow. You are wanting to kill the only reason you are alive, because clearly, judging by your own plight and suffering, you are markedly incapable of providing for yourself and taking care of yourself. This "pig", which is a milk cow, is the only reason you are alive.

>The human exists to serve the interests of his parents actually.

That is ridiculous. How do you come to these conclusions? I've never interacted with somebody so capable of drawing false conclusions.

The parents, are like the thrusters that fall off of the rocket ship. You're saying that the "rocket ship exists to serve the interests of the detachable rocket engines plummeting to earth"? Really?

The purpose of that rocket (child) is to get as high into the sky as possible (progress), then fall off of the rocket when it is depleted of fuel (sickness or death), allowing the next rocket (next generation) to fire up and continue propelling the rocket into the sky (progress).

The point of a child is not to serve the interests of the parents. The point of the child is to serve the interests of the future.

>That being said I don't see the need to do what we were intended for all the time.

This is what we are designed to do. This is what our bodies chemically want to do. Just like how a car is designed to drive, the human, like all life, is designed to reduce potential energy in the universe in accordance with entropy.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:02:43 No.13072003 Report

Quoted By: >>13072008 >>13072013

>>13071999
>Also can you give a brief rundown on why the natural purpose only involves reducing potential energy and not increasing it?

This is the second law of thermodynamics. >>13054537 These buckets. This is what the universe allows to naturally happen. If we "go with the flow" here, life become easier, more streamlined, and without resistance.

Arguing that we should "increase potential energy" is like saying that the water in that lower bucket should fly upwards and voluntarily go back into the top bucket. That's incredibly difficult to do, requires a considerable amount of work, and the universe will work as hard as it can to ensure that the water flows back down into the lower bucket.

The basic recipe for life is cellular respiration, chemically identical to fire for the most part, and this means that our purpose in this reality is identical to that of fire.

>truly are the useful idiot here as well as a big time dogmatist.

Why would I, a lowly peasant, actively seek to betray and wage war against the most powerful military nation in the world. One which has given me a good life, a comfortable life, and a reasonable education from which, through self-improvement, I become capable of providing value to the world and returning some of the value which was given to me, for free, by this country.

Even if you are an ingrate and say that this token of good faith means nothing, it is clearly suicidal and pointless for peasants to try and attack the people with the capacity to destroy the world, including any peasants who try to attack it.

America, however, is not a particularly statist nation. America, as you know, is a "free, liberal, democratic society". I see this as a source of suffering in the lives of many people. By arguing for Statism, I am seen as both anti-American, and perhaps an enemy of the state. I argue for this because of my loyalty to the nation, because I know that this pursuit will allow it to become more powerful, healthier, and happier

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:06:37 No.13072008 Report

Quoted By: >>13072025

>>13072003
(end repost)

>>You don't understand that the fact that this man takes the profit is the reason why there is a place to work in the first place.
>So what, that doesn't make it a fair trade. There were also societies in the past that functioned without profit.

The reason those societies in the past which functioned without profit are gone is because they were conquered by those that did make profit. Why? Because those which made profit were able to capitalize upon the concentration of wealth which enabled the exploitation of the economy of scale, making their nations more efficient, cost-effective, and industrious, thus able to out-compete these societies in every sense of the word.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:10:44 No.13072013 Report

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>>13072003

(me)
>That is ridiculous. How do you come to these conclusions? I've never interacted with somebody so capable of drawing false conclusions.
>The parents, are like the thrusters that fall off of the rocket ship. You're saying that the "rocket ship exists to serve the interests of the detachable rocket engines plummeting to earth"? Really?
>The purpose of that rocket (child) is to get as high into the sky as possible (progress), then fall off of the rocket when it is depleted of fuel (sickness or death), allowing the next rocket (next generation) to fire up and continue propelling the rocket into the sky (progress).
>The point of a child is not to serve the interests of the parents. The point of the child is to serve the interests of the future.
(him)
>No one would have kids if it didn't serve their interests.

Having children has never served the interst of the parents other than via the satiation of instinct. That's it. Economically it is disastrous for the parents. Few if any parents ever see any "return on investment" from their children.

The fact that you want "return on investment to serve my self interest" is explicitly the exact same mindset of the fucking capitalists who enslave you. You are their children, they want "personal benefit" because they rear you into labor, provide you food and shelter, and protect you.

You don't understand anything about parenting, and beyond that, your argument does nothing but justify the capitalism you claim to hate. This argument of "have children for personal gain" evidences the absolute insanity and inconsistency of your arguments.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:17:58 No.13072025 Report

Quoted By: >>13072036 >>13079302

>>13072008

>The rocket ship analogy is retarded because the thrusters were made by humans, not by the rocket ship itself.
>Whoever makes something does it for their own interest.

You're clearly a fucking capitalist who believes in personal gain. There is no personal gain or benefit for self in communism. In communism, there is only the benefit of the community. You work to benefit the community, from which, through trickle-down policy, comes back to you. You benefit by being a member of the community which you work for. You don't benefit personally. The community reaps all of the benefit.

Communism, literally root word "commune" meaning coming together, is about unity with the community, it is about putting the community before yourself. It's the antithesis of individualism, which you preach as if that you aren't "going to gulag day 1" for having that idea.

The rocket ship is the community, the rockets are the individuals pushing the community into the sky. What the fuck is wrong with you? Just stop. Stop being an idiot. You're not a communist. You're just fucking stupid.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:25:17 No.13072036 Report

Quoted By: >>13072051

>>13072025

You're not even a "by the books" communist. You're a shitty, delusional, baselessly entitled criminal who parrots propaganda he doesn't understand while advocating for a system which, even in the purest form of lollypop by-the-books communism, will send you to gulag day 1 where you die.

They would likely kill you before that, just lined up against the wall, because they don't want your stupidity to torture the other people in the gulag, just because even though the communists are murdering millions of people in the name of the state, they're not so sadistic as to subject other people to the unsettling degree of stupidity and dysfunctinoal logic which are clearly willing to take to the grave, which I will remind you is likely much, much sooner than you think.

Not for any "killed by government" reasons, just that you're clearly too stupid to keep yourself alive. You will die from the cancer of your own stupidity, not the salty-sweet cock-and-balls of that young stud Papa Trudeau thawpping down on the trigger of an MG40, pulling the trigger with the 100% all-natural fibro-elastic prehensile dolphin penis between his legs as he lines up you "revolutionaries" against the wall to be shot for your "political ideology".

Yes, this is a personal attack, but you fucking deserve it. It is perplexing that you have the ability to parrot these arugments you've heard but have absolutely no ability to comprehend what in the fuck you're saying.

Every line, every argument is a ridiculous non-sequitur of misaligned arguments. Your political philosophy is some Frankenstein monster, bits and pieces of whatever you like, despite none of these pieces working together. It's not a "walking fighting Frankenstein". I apologize for the grotesque image, but this image represents your very confused self-contradicting suicidal political ideology.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Fri 02 Jul 2021 22:30:53 No.13072051 Report

Quoted By: >>13072862

>>13072036
>Canadian man
>I'm trying to help you here
>honestly

Stop reading this shit you don't understand about communism. Stop parroting random hypocritical propaganda and crying about black people randomly for no reason.

Go read something else. You don't look smart or enlightened. You just look like an idiot. Clearly you can't process these things. Go read something more accessible.

I'm not trying to "shill anything" or "say communism is bad and wrong". How about this, just go read Communism for Dummies or something, find a children's book about communism, because it's true that you've collected all these pieces to your communism lego set, you just can't put them together for the life of you.

It's very fucking disconcerting, and I don't even live in Canada. I'm sure people fear you when they see you because your arguments and understanding of the world are so incredibly disjointed and clearly independent of any understanding of both reality as well as the arguments you attempt to parrot on this online imageboard.

I do appreciate the banter, but goodness, it's starting to get a little worrying there, cowboy. I mean it's a lot worrying. I'm not worried that you're going to overthrow the government, I just worry that you're going to die from this cancer of your own stupidity.

I'm being harsh on you, yes, but maybe lets' tone it down a little bit. Tone down the aggression. You're shooting blindly from the hip with all of this propaganda, all while shouting things that make it look like you're the enemy of the people you claim to be allied to. That's not a good situation. Can you understand that?

Take some time to process, don't just parrot. Think about these things you like. Try to put the pieces together.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 00:33:06 No.13072862 Report

Quoted By: >>13072869

>>13072051
I'll drop some Joe Rape that didn't make it to the last thread in the mean time. /PBG/ it should come back, but this Canada man is sacrificing his body, soul, and mind trying to fight me, just to keep me occupied so I don't make it again.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 00:35:49 No.13072869 Report

Quoted By: >>13074321

>>13072862
I think this one is hilarious. I put Joe Biden's name on it, just in honor of the sport and art of Joe Rape.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 02:26:35 No.13074321 Report

Quoted By: >>13074322

>>13072869
This one, this is a modern classic.

>>>/sci/13350074

Good thread if you are interested in the "conscious universe" argument and are extremely literate and capable of understanding logical arguments. There are likely very few people on this board with this capacity, but never the less.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 02:27:12 No.13074322 Report

Quoted By: >>13074753

>>13074321
>Good thread

It was also the source of this gay story if you are into that. It's science themed.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:14:22 No.13074753 Report

Quoted By: >>13074760 >>13075853

>>13074322
Canada man, let's think for a moment. I think your commitment to your ideology here is comparable to Joe Rape, not that you're pro-rape, but that you're just 100% balls-to-the-wall rabidly committed to what you want.

You're not the type to listen to reason, you don't give a fuck what people think, you're just going to shout as many pseudo-coherent arguments that vilify anyone who doesn't want what you want, and worship anyone who you think agrees with you.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:19:45 No.13074760 Report

Quoted By: >>13074765 >>13075853

>>13074753
Did you notice how Joe Rape compares Rape Victims to the "Western Propaganda Style Joseph Stalin" that would kill you for having an opinion contrary to the state? (Picture) >>13071728

This isn't exactly a fair comparison, clearly, but Joe argues this point because he is committed to his belief, and he believes he is unquestionably correct, and he is unwilling to consider the fact that those opposed to him are somehow making valid arguments. Instead, Joe Rape argues that those fighting his ideology are instead comparable to "brutal oppressive tyrants".

I'm just using Joe Rape here to demonstrate a level of political conviction that is, to most people, unreasonable; it believes itself to be unquestionably correct; and that will aggressively attack those who disagree with it due to blind faith and commitment to the ideology.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:22:38 No.13074765 Report

Quoted By: >>13074793 >>13075853

>>13074760
Notice how Joe Rape here, he hates what he sees as "Rotten Ho's", but what most people would see as Middle-aged-women.

He attacks these people, and he believes they are the source of his "oppression" which consists largely of the prohibition of the rape of children.

It is his hatred of these people, rather than legitimate, sound, empirical logic, that justifies his willingness to "murder them" or "put them in the landfill". This is an irrational act of anger, pride, and possible insanity, but still, it is his faith in his political ideology that justifies these statements.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:29:53 No.13074793 Report

Quoted By: >>13074806 >>13075853

>>13074765
As ironic as it is, your, how might I say, "die-hard conviction" to communism is paralleled in Joe Rape's "die-hard conviction" to Rape.

In Pic Related, he attacks the "anti-pedo" movement, saying they are clearly "unfit to produce sound decision" due to "ill health", while asserting that he himself as "The normal person", thus trustworthy.

He believes he represents being a "normal man" despite his spending the majority of his life as a chronic pussy-slayer, remaining oblivious to the fact that only 50% of men are chronic pussy-slayers at , thus if this 50% is normal, then the other 50% does not constitute "abnormality" due to being equally as dense.

Clearly, as an admittedly "KHHV" you might think Joe Biden, suffering from chronic-pussy-slaying-disorder, is abnormal. This just demonstrates how one's personal perspective changes things and allows you to vilify, and easily slander people who you see as your enemies.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:36:45 No.13074806 Report

Quoted By: >>13074824 >>13075853

>>13074793
Here, again, Joe Rape is attacking the credibility of his opponents by comparing him to people that are generally seen as inferior or dysfunctional by the standards of the world.

He says "If you are 10% dry-dick, (being anti-child-rape) then you are 100% dry-dick, being (khhv)".

Joe Rape is 100% pure class, in that, despite being a Child Rapist, one who in the eyes of most people victimizes children, he argues that instead it is those who are opposing child rape that are hurting children.

He argues that these people are a "conspiring group of bad people" who are "hurting children" and the only way to prevent this is by "raping the children", which somehow averts this harm.

Do you see how this mentality of your allows you to justify hurting innocent people simply due to the delusion that you are "helping them"? This is much like how Joe's Rape is empowered by his Rapist Pride to rape children, because he believes this is "helping them" and "protecting them from oppression" caused by the "conspiring group of bad people" that "want to hurt and exploit the children".

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:50:04 No.13074824 Report

Quoted By: >>13074837 >>13075853

>>13074806
In Pic Related, Joe Rape casually and calmly states his Pro-Child-Sex-Trafficking stance as if it is "the most basic of common sense", as if anyone who doesn't agree with it is somehow mentally ill or dysfunctional by questioning the practice.

Joe Rape is saying "Child Sex Trafficking is so normal, acceptable, and correct, that I can't even understand how somebody might be opposed to it." ; this is comparable to your own commitment to communism.

Joe Rape furthers this point, by refusing to acknowledge that there is any potential for harm to come from Child Sex Trafficking, he equates it to the "perfect job", often described as "doing what you love and getting paid for it".

After this, he references "The American Dream", which like your "Communist Utopia" is a very propagandized statement. He says "These children who are subjected to Child Sex Trafficking are living proof of the utopian aspirations of the American Dream. He equates this practice to "making people's dreams come true", which is again a very biased argument, being unable to admit that there is any potential for suffering, exploitation, abuse, or "better possible reality" than being a victim of Child Sex Trafficking.

He argues "The children used in Child Sex Trafficking are attaining the most perfect, highest quality, most enjoyable, and desirable life possible by being coerced into forming sexual acts for strangers in exchange for money, which is not given to the child, but instead to the pimp of the child."

It is his blind faith in rape, sexual abuse, and child abuse that allows him to easily believe that "Child Sex Trafficking Victims are having their dreams come true and exist in a utopian system", which many people would argue is false. This is caused 100% by the fact that Joe Rape believes and wants this system to induce "utopia and happiness in all people", mainly because he wants the sex, saying "I want X, thus X induces utopia" which isn't a valid argument.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 08:56:46 No.13074837 Report

Quoted By: >>13074853 >>13075853

>>13074824

In Pic Related, Joe Rape argues that he is the "victim" of taxes, which he finds "oppressive". He looks at this as "people taking from him".

He feels that a "powerful group", in this case, women 12 and up, aren't "paying their fair share", and instead are "holding on to what he wants and feels entitled to", which in this case, is pussy, and by proxy children, thus more pussy.

He says "I am subjected to this oppression of taxes, but these girls are not subjected to the pussy tax." he says "I'm being exploited and not getting my fair share of pussy". This is how he justifies the next part.

He argues that taking what he wants and feels entitled to (pussy) by force is justified, because he thinks this will induce a "utopian world" where, since "everybody pay's their fair share", and "everybody is treated equally" (from his perspective), this means that "the world is a better place.

Joe Rape uses these arguments to justify rape, including the rape of children, not because these are valid arguments, but because he feels he is being deprived of what he wants, so he uses this position to claim "moral superiority" and "victimhood" when compared to those people (hos) withholding from him what he wants (hella pussy).

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 09:04:56 No.13074853 Report

Quoted By: >>13074876 >>13075853

>>13074837
I'm posting these Joe Rape memes, not as "satire" but as a way to compare the logic of a die-hard political zealot who is blinded by his own faith in his ideology that he is unwilling to see that his ideology is imperfect in some way. Joe Rape supports rape so much.

Joe Rape is is unwilling and easily incapable of psychologically processing the fact that rape can, at times, in some ways, be imperfect, undesired, or detrimental. If these were to be true, this this would make him question his ideology. He cannot question this ideology he believes in so much, so instead, he makes arguments asserting that rape is perfect, desired, and beneficial 100% of the time, thus meaning it is impossible for rape to be in anyway imperfect, undesired, or detrimental.

Clearly you and Joe Rape have considerable differences in regards to opinions about policy. I'm just saying that your commitment, conviction, and zeal in regards to your political beliefs can cause you to make statements which some may see as irrational, logically dysfunctional, or unjustifiable.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 09:16:48 No.13074876 Report

Quoted By: >>13074954 >>13075299 >>13075853

>>13074853
I found another relevant one. Here, >>13071857
Joe Rape believes that the system "is rigged by bad people" and that he is "oppressed" because he isn't getting what he wants. He believes this is "not a fair contest".

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 10:35:15 No.13074954 Report

Quoted By: >>13075861

>>13074876
If you've ever thought "I don't know if I support the hyper-normal White collar psychopath competitive rapists that run the world. What are the alternatives? Would a revolution be beneficial to myself?"

I made a little chart so people and quickly understand the two sides of the coin.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:17:19 No.13075299 Report

Quoted By: >>13075853 >>13075861

>>13074876
I've got very little to say, but Mr. Canadian. You know where to find me. If you are tying a response, that is fine. The issue I am having, is that our arguments are expanding endlessly.

I reply to one of your posts with two posts. You reply to two of my posts with two posts. I reply to two of your posts with 4 posts. Etc. This chain becomes extremely long. Perhaps we can restart the argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 14:06:59 No.13075853 Report

Quoted By: >>13075861 >>13079745

>>13075299
>Perhaps we can restart the argument?

Canadian Man, or anyone really. I would like to argue about Joe Rape.

>>13074753
>>13074760
>>13074765
>>13074793
>>13074806
>>13074824
>>13074837
>>13074853
>>13074876

Joe Rape here, oddly enough, became a strong parallel to the ideological commitment of the Canadian Communist.

Perhaps this is sort of like a "Mirror test" but does anything that defines the political reasoning of Joe Rape parallel the way you feel about your own political ideology?

Do you feel you are justified? Does this make Joe Rape justified for having the same unwavering and domineering aggression and incredulity in the face of very reasonable criticisms?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:E362ys3Y Sat 03 Jul 2021 14:13:26 No.13075861 Report

Quoted By: >>13075904 >>13078053

>>13074954
>>13075299
>>13075853
do u enjoy having entire conversation with urself

i have witnessed this kinda behaviour before but never understood it

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 14:53:12 No.13075904 Report

Quoted By: >>13078053

>>13075861
>do u enjoy having entire conversation with urself
>i have witnessed this kinda behaviour before but never understood it

Yes. Imagine being surrounded by rats. They don't communicate in English. You have no ability to speak to rats. You are perhaps a little bored and think conversation would be delightful, what do you?

You have no option other than to talk to yourself, so this is what most people resort to in a sea of rats. I'm not saying that you're physically rats, I'm just saying that your illiteracy inhibits my ability to have a conversation with you.

I will bring you this logical parallel that hopefully you will enjoy.

>do u enjoy having entire conversation with urself?
>be me
>very, very large penis
>everyone else has very tiny vaginas, mouths and buttholes
>my penis cannot fit inside of them
>I get a little horny
>What do I do?
>I masturbate
>if this is the best sex I can find, so be it
>I then ejaculate all over the tiny, tiny people

Here, "masturbating", the "pleasure of oneself sexually", represents my talking to myself. I don't mean to offend you, but I am curious as to if you understand how that story relates to my talking to myself in this thread?

By that same allegory, that Canadian man, he could read what I wrote and would try to argue. This would be similar to two people wrestling, each one trying to rape the other for pleasure. In this case, however, the pleasure is of conversation and rhetorical supremacy, rather than the pleasure of sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7kC2c97 Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:57:23 No.13077253 Report

Quoted By: >>13077386

>>13071438
based

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 16:38:54 No.13077386 Report

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>>13077253
How does it feel knowing that I'm arguing with commies in your country, good Canadian Man?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 17:49:38 No.13078053 Report

Quoted By: >>13078146

>>13075861

Mr Australian man, please return to access the answer to this question you posed.

>do u enjoy having entire conversation with urself
>i have witnessed this kinda behaviour before but never understood it

>>13075904
This is the answer to your question.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:E362ys3Y Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:19:48 No.13078146 Report

Quoted By: >>13078191

>>13078053
i'll be dead honest i saw u replied and ur reply was not only entirely unhelpful but more along the lines of what a 12 year old would post so i feel actually like the real answer is ur underage so w/e have fun

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:32:00 No.13078191 Report

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>>13078146
If you can't understand the post, this means you struggle with reading. Do you have an adult you can ask to help you read? Or a sister? Women are better at reading.

Do you notice how I use correct grammar, spelling and punctuation? You didn't use any punctuation at all. That's typical of children.

>I talk to myself
>because people can't read

That's the whole moral of the story. More helpful? Do you consider yourself a strong reader? I don't expect you to be.

>52% of American adults cannot read on the level of an 11 year old (6th grade)
>30% of American adults cannot read on the level of a 9 year old (4th grade)

I'm not trying to be mean, I just want you to understand the answer to your question.

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Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:42:05 No.13078984 Report

Quoted By: >>13079078

>>13071857
>He has nothing better to do
Lmao, implying you have something better to do
You sit here all day and on other boards as well, to make people feel bad. I have no respect for you anymore cause you're gonna be happy when I'm being repressed for wrongthink but whine that your threads are being saged by the government. It's the epitome of hypocrisy
At least I take breaks

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:51:39 No.13079077 Report

Quoted By: >>13079081

>>13071500
I don't care about some random peasant's happiness unless I can get something out of it. I care about my own.
>There is only 1 "class" of people, slaves, thus this is a classless society.
No we have the proles (wage workers) and the bourgeoisie. Classless means there are no classes at all because the classes only exist in relation to each other. Without the proles the capitalists can't exist.
>Your argument is to "destroy the social hierarchy"
It's only to destroy the class hierarchy, there are still gonna be genetic hierarchy's, and other forms.
>The bottom 20% of America makes 27.59x as much as the middle class Nigerien
I'm not surprised, it's because of disparity between nations and imperialism, the root cause is again capitalism
>There is far less decadence in Niger
I don't give a fuck what you perceive "decadence" to be desu

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:51:52 No.13079078 Report

Quoted By: >>13079082 >>13079089 >>13079209

>>13078984
>Lmao, implying you have something better to do

No, implying I have nothing better to do and enjoy your company and your sporting debates.

> to make people feel bad.

You support the mass murder of millions of people in the name of communism. Can you see how it is very odd to cry about hurt feelings? This is unnerving that "murdering people is ok", but "hurting feelings is not"

>whine that your threads are being saged by the government

I'm just saying that is evidence that they do fear me, yet they are reluctant to actually stop me.

I genuinely do enjoy your company, the fact that I'm "breaking your balls" a little bit just shows that it's buddy buddy stuff. You don't have friends that you tease?

"Roasting a nigga" is common practice and good fun in America. You're supposed to come back with some insults about me.

>I have no respect for you anymore

Why in God's name would you ever respect me? I'm a terrible person.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:53:00 No.13079081 Report

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>>13079077
If you're going to dump, I'll let you do it for clarity. Let me know when you're finished so I can smear your shit on the wall. Gang gang.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:53:02 No.13079082 Report

Quoted By: >>13079093

>>13079078
lololol your thread was bumplocked

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:54:51 No.13079089 Report

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>>13079078
It's not "mass murder" you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Another one of your completely retarded uneducated criticisms was me "parroting something I don't know about" when you clearly don't read anything

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:55:32 No.13079093 Report

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>>13079082
I suppose the powers that be, they dislike me, but you, my friend, you redeem the thread with your presence. They want to hide me, but they want people to see your rhetoric. Take that as a compliment. You make some people happy, maybe not in America, but probably the Chinese who own the website.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:56:15 No.13079096 Report

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>>13071616
Again, sociology is based on the objective material world. How are there no empirical proofs when there are and they are observable in everyday life?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:58:25 No.13079107 Report

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>>13071521
You are assuming things about my life and being very dishonest about everything when you don't know what happened to me

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:59:01 No.13079112 Report

Quoted By: >>13079144

>>13071545
more fucking hypocrisy about how arresting people for slander is good when you slander your own president on a daily basis

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:00:54 No.13079122 Report

Quoted By: >>13079185

>>13071601
during prohibition people who never tried alcohol got into it anyway, the same thing that happens with illegal drugs today
Illegal drugs are illegal, but people still try them anyway when they can get them illegally
People would illegally brew alcohol

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:02:06 No.13079125 Report

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>>13071644
>No. The rich lose endless amounts of money due to the inefficiency of the American system
Under the chinese system they lose even more because they have to pay more to the state, there are always gonna be loses that's an inevitability

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:04:34 No.13079140 Report

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>>13071752
>This is the product of a Commuist revolution
You're taking one example and applying it to every single situation, the USSR turned out differently than china

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:05:05 No.13079144 Report

Quoted By: >>13079207

>>13079112
>It's not "mass murder" you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

What do you call this then? Taking the infidels to have fucking smoke and a pancake with God?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

> sociology is based on the objective material world

Fine, sociology is fine. I don't care too much about it. I generally tend to attack everything for sport. If you want to debate about it, we can, but I'd have to actually find some talking points because it's generally so irrelevant that I don't need to have any.

>You are assuming things about my life and being very dishonest about everything when you don't know what happened to me

I'm making an educated guess based upon the observations of people who are consumed by the same ideology you are in America. The people I described are the "communists" in the USA, and this is why these people are mocked and belittled so aggressively by the general public.

>more fucking hypocrisy about how arresting people for slander is good when you slander your own president on a daily basis

I don't slander the president. I satirize the president. There's a difference.

https://kellywarnerlaw.com/satire-v-defamation

>Defamation is a believable false statement of fact that causes material harm.

>Satire is “the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.”

>In other words: defamation is a malicious lie passed off as truth; satire is a humorous skewering of a cultural or political event – regardless of whether or not you agree with the viewpoint.

One is legal. One is illegal. Do you honestly think people believe that Joe "Big Dick" Biden said this?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:07:15 No.13079170 Report

Quoted By: >>13079218

>>13071999
>You don't understand that the fact that this man takes the profit is the reason why there is a place to work in the first place
Except you're retarded and brainwashed by your government and overlook the fact that all of this is done through coercion and there would still be a place to work without the capitalist, like there was in the USSR

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:09:13 No.13079185 Report

Quoted By: >>13079215

>>13079122
>Illegal drugs are illegal, but people still try them anyway when they can get them illegally
>People would illegally brew alcohol

The point is that people wouldn't have knowledge that these things exist, so they wouldn't pursue them. People cannot pursue something they don't know exists. This is a generation of people segregated from the general public and given no knowledge of the existence of alcohol.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:12:20 No.13079207 Report

Quoted By: >>13079244

>>13079144
>What do you call this then
It's called legally killing the enemies of the people.
>I don't slander the president
Yes you do because you unironically think that he raped people

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:12:26 No.13079209 Report

Quoted By: >>13079233

>>13079078
It is weird to see you argue that every single other person you encounter on here is either a paid agent against you, people against you are just too dumb, or people who are too illiterate to understand what you are saying. The more rational answer is just that they don't enjoy your style of writing or the content of your writing?

I've come back here a couple times because I'm sort of fascinated by people with mental disorders because they are unique, unpredictable, weird, etc etc. I find it all interesting in a kind of meta-sense, but I genuinely don't enjoy the content of what you are putting out there and I assume most people don't either. I think it has less to do with people being somehow 'illiterate' and more to do with the fact that they don't enjoy the type of content you are producing. I feel like it is an acquired taste for the abnormal that most people don't have, nor would I expect them to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:13:59 No.13079215 Report

Quoted By: >>13079280

>>13079185
Accomplishing that would be near impossible and even if you did someone would probably try fermenting hops and realize it makes alcohol

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:14:23 No.13079218 Report

Quoted By: >>13079261

>>13079170
>there would still be a place to work without the capitalist

This is true. This is not dependent upon the capitalist. It is dependent upon the economy of scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale

It is dependent upon some "authority" to centralize production. You need to have "a group with power above the people and resources" to move and manage materials in order to concentrate them in one area, so that these can be efficiently processed.

An example here is sewing clothes. If you sew your own clothes, you can make 1 shirt a day with your needle and pin. This is a low quality shirt. This is a high investment of time and inefficient labor for a small amount of production.

If you build a clothes factory. That same one person can make 1000 shirts a day using a shirt-making machine. The individual seamstress does not have the capacity to build a garment factory, but by concentrating wealth/capital/value/property/resources into one massive pile, (historically rich people), this gives them the power to invest a massive amount into a factory, in order to produce a much greater return.

That's the economy of scale that is necessary for the world to function. This is why communism always needed to establish an authoritarian regime that would concentrate wealth/capital/property/resources into the hands of a small group of people, who could then make the massive investments which individual peasants are unable to make.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:16:55 No.13079233 Report

Quoted By: >>13079280 >>13079479

>>13079209
this he can't respond properly, he replied to one of my arguments "cope" without anything else, also he clearly has trouble accepting people with a different point of view because he keeps using ad hominem attacks lol

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:18:28 No.13079244 Report

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>>13079207
>Yes you do because you unironically think that he raped people

I'm saying that his "sexual misconduct" with children is a very well known occurence and it occurs live on national television. I'm not out there trying to press charges against him.

I'm not even satirizing the President right there. I'm satirizing the sexual assault laws and sexual abuse laws. I"m mocking those laws and the people who support them and defending the privilege of Joe Biden to sexually enjoy these children and adults.

The jokes allege that "rape victims" are really just sluts. I'm saying Joe did nothing wrong, and that the "victims" are just pretending not to like it. I'm satirizing "rape laws", not Joe Biden. These jokes defend Joe Biden.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:22:07 No.13079261 Report

Quoted By: >>13079298

>>13079218
>It is dependent upon some "authority" to centralize production
then explain handicraftsmen who work alone and cooperatives. The clothes factory could be a democratically worker-run workplace

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:25:13 No.13079280 Report

Quoted By: >>13079291

>>13079215
>someone would probably try fermenting hops and realize it makes alcohol

How many times have you randomly gone around fermenting shit? How many times do you just have hops on hand? Never. Not once. This is not something people just "randomly do for entertainment" without prior knowledge.

The discovery of alcohol was entirely accidental and made from rotting food. So long as you don't let random food rot and ferment, then let the peasants eat it, they will have no understanding of the process of fermentation.

>>13079233
>he replied to one of my arguments "cope" without anything else,

Clearly this joke went over your head, so unfortunately I have to explain it.

You say "The lower class is not genetically inferior." I respond with "Cope",

This one line, a commonplace motif of this website, makes the following allegations in this context.

>You are trying to cope with the fact that the lower class is genetically inferior.

>Your struggles and problems are due to the fact that the lower class is genetically inferior.

>You are living proof of the fact that the lower class is genetically inferior.

>You are putting faith in this delusion shilled by propagandists to content the lower class, because if they knew that they were genetically inferior, they would riot, disengage from society, kill themselves, or lose all interest in work and self-betterment.

You're making me explain a joke. You didn't understand this obvious joke, which again, I am forced to assert as evidence that the lower class, the proles, are genetically inferior. If you were not genetically inferior, you would have understood this joke.

>accepting people with a different point of view because he keeps using ad hominem attacks lol

I don't accept anyone with a point of view. You could bring in a capitalist, a nun, a criminal, a dog. I would attack all of them in the same way I attack you.

I have little more "intent" than a rooster with a knife tied to it's foot.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:29:02 No.13079291 Report

Quoted By: >>13079307

>>13079280
>How many times have you randomly gone around fermenting shit?
Just because I didn't do it personally doesn't mean that someone who grew up on a farm would
>The lower classes are genetically inferior
No they fucking aren't, the high class inherits wealth and typically some means of production, that's the only thing putting them above everyone else. Look at the habsburg dynasty or the tsar's family, they were the top dogs but they struggled with shit like hemophilia and genetic diseases

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:32:06 No.13079298 Report

Quoted By: >>13079320

>>13079261
>then explain handicraftsmen who work alone and cooperatives.

These people exist. My point is that these people cannot compete with the factory. They cannot produce goods that are as cost-effective as the factory. You are forced to pay much more for a "Hand crafted object" than a factory crafted object.

For example. A bespoke suit. This is from a handicrafstman that likely works as part of a cooperative.

"It's typical for an entry-level bespoke garment to start at over $2000, whereas you can theoretically spend over $10,000 if you get a handmade three-piece suit made from a high-end, specialty fabric. On average, bespoke suits cost between $3000-$5000."

You can get a Calvin Klein factory produced suit from Amazon for $85. This is why the handicraftsman were obsoleted by the factory. It is far too expensive to pay tradesman in the long term than it is for a one-time massive investment in a factory.

>The clothes factory could be a democratically worker-run workplace

The problem is that democracy adds no value to the factory. The factory is naturally governed by the laws of economics. Adding democracy just adds additional unnatural constraints to the factory which make it more inefficient and this causes problems.

This is why American Trade Unions caused the collapse of the Manufacturing sector in America. They applied democracy to the factory. This added no value, increased the upkeep cost immensely, and then the factories could no longer sustain themselves. They lost money, they went bankrupt, they collapsed. Then the businesses had to move to China where there is no democracy in the factory. This is the problem.

If you add democracy to the factory, the peasants kill the factory. If the factory is like a milk cow, the peasants all vote to kill and eat the milk cow. Then there is no more milk, but those peasants depended upon the milk cow to survive, and now they all die (lose their jobs).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:33:25 No.13079302 Report

Quoted By: >>13079316

>>13072025
>There is no personal gain or benefit for self in communism. In communism, there is only the benefit of the community
That makes no fucking logical sense and that's an oxymoron. The community can only benefit if the members within it benefit. Thus there is benefit for me, as an oppressed member of society in a better society that suits my interests.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:36:03 No.13079307 Report

Quoted By: >>13079323

>>13079291
>Look at the habsburg dynasty or the tsar's family, they were the top dogs but they struggled with shit like hemophilia and genetic diseases

The issue is that this is a case of extensive inbreeding over hundreds of years. 99% of the upper class does not suffer from this problem. This argument only proves "inbreeding has detrimental genetic consequences", and doesn't attack the argument "The upper class is genetically superior".

I say this as a peasant who lives in dirt and is markedly genetically inferior in many ways to other people. I am rife with mental illness, with a predisposition to rage, a predisposition to irrational behaviors, a predisposition to addiction. I have difficulty with long term planning, I have difficulty understanding cause and effect, I suffer from delusional thinking.

These are all very typical blights of the peasants, at least in America, and more than likely around the world. The reason the upper class is successful is because they can avoid the detriment to their lives caused by these traits, most if not all of which are caused by genetic predispositions.

The rich marry the rich, the poor marry the poor. The bad genetics that caused failure in one generation of poor people get concentrated and passed down to the next generation of poor people.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:41:57 No.13079316 Report

Quoted By: >>13079333

>>13079302
>The community can only benefit if the members within it benefit.

This is putting the individual above the community. This says "It is only through the benefit of the individual that the community can benefit, thus the benefit of the individual is ensured before the benefit of the community"

This is trickle-down economics championed by Ronald Regan, a very conservative and capitalist President.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics

"Trickle-down economics, also known as trickle-down theory or the horse and sparrow theory, is the economic proposition that taxes on businesses and the wealthy in society should be reduced as a means to stimulate business investment in the short term and benefit society at large in the long term. In recent history, the term has been used by critics of supply-side economic policies, such as "Reaganomics". Whereas general supply-side theory favors lowering taxes overall, trickle-down theory more specifically advocates for a lower tax burden on the upper end of the economic spectrum.[1][2] Empirical evidence shows that the proposition has never managed to achieve all of its stated goals as described by the Reagan administration."

Your logic only defends one of the most aggressively capitalist schemes that has existed in the United States. You have the mind of a vicious capitalist.

You share your ideology with Ronald Regan, the "Cut taxes, invent crack cocaine to kill poor black people. Create the War on Drugs to imprison and kill poor people and minorities." That Ronald Regan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:42:34 No.13079320 Report

Quoted By: >>13079420

>>13079298
>The problem is that democracy adds no value to the factory
That's not the goal of workplace democracy, you're attacking it for not doing something it's not intended to do.
>Adding democracy just adds additional unnatural constraints to the factory which make it more inefficient and this causes problems.
No it fucking doesn't. Multiple studies found that cooperatives actually increase worker efficiency rather than decrease it
<According to Virginie Pérotin's research which looked at two decades worth of international data, worker cooperatives are more productive than conventional businesses.[22] Another 1987 study of worker cooperatives in Italy, the UK, and France found “positive” relationships with productivity. It also found that worker cooperatives do not become less productive as they get larger. A 1995 study of worker cooperatives in the timber industry in Washington, USA found that “co-ops are more efficient than the principal conventional firms by between 6 and 14 percent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative
https://www.democracyatwork.info/the_performance_of_workercooperatives
>This is why American Trade Unions caused the collapse of the Manufacturing sector in America. They applied democracy to the factory.
Except they didn't and that wasn't the reason, production was outsourced to foreign countries who's cheap labor could be exploited by the capitalists to increase the profit and decrease the cost of production.
>Then the businesses had to move to China where there is no democracy in the factory
There is workplace democracy in china and it's far more widespread there because it's mandated by the state.
http://english.mofcom.gov.cn/article/lawsdata/chineselaw/200303/20030300072563.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:45:43 No.13079323 Report

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>>13079307
It does attack the argument of the upper class being genetically superior because it provides counter examples. I'm not saying that there are no rich people with good genes I'm just saying that genetics aren't the source of wealth

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 19:49:13 No.13079333 Report

Quoted By: >>13079424 >>13079434

>>13079316
>you share something with reagan
And do you think I give a single fuck? Most marxist thinkers have the same view and take inspiration from stirner. You still haven't refuted the point.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:14:05 No.13079420 Report

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>>13079320

>That's not the goal of workplace democracy,

The goal of the factory is to produce value though. The "workplace democracy" is hurting the purpose of the factory.

Workplace democracy basically makes building the workplace in the first place pointless, because the workplace democracy rapidly destroys the factory. You would build a factory... Just so you can burn it down?

>Multiple studies found that cooperatives actually increase worker efficiency

Increasing worker efficiency doesn't mean it translates to an increase in the stability, success, and growth of the company. I'm saying that it harms these.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:14:49 No.13079424 Report

Quoted By: >>13079669

>>13079333

> who's cheap labor could be exploited by the capitalists to increase the profit and decrease the cost of production.

It's because the unionists demanded wages that weren't sustainable.

>I go to work with 5 people
>Joe is the boss, is the 6th person
>We sell the crack
>Joe Buys the cocaine and cooks the crack
>Joe gives us crack to sell
>We make $1000 selling crack cocaine
>Joe needs $500 dollars to re-up
>We made $500 profit selling crack
>Now, as employees, we get paid
>We all demand $150
>Joe, being a "good boss" pays us
>Joe is down to $250
>he takes $0 wages
>He can now only buy half the amount of cocaine
>he only has half as much crack to sell now
>He does this, cooks it, gives it to us to sell
>We sell it, make $500
>$250 profit
>we demand wages
> He needs to pay us $750 dollars
>He only has made $500
>He pays us
>He has $0
>He cannot buy any more cocaine
>The crack factory is insolvent
>Now I am out of work

This is what happens. This is how unions killed manufacturing.

>There is workplace democracy in china and it's far more widespread there because it's mandated by the state.

I find that comical to believe that this is anything beyond "Yes, I agree with the boss and the state" voting, where people know what the right choice is because they are fired or killed if they make the wrong one.

>pic related
>Chinese democracy hard at work

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:19:27 No.13079434 Report

Quoted By: >>13079683

>>13079333
>>you share something with reagan
>And do you think I give a single fuck? Most marxist thinkers have the same view and take inspiration from stirner. You still haven't refuted the point.

Empirical evidence shows that the proposition has never managed to achieve all of its stated goals as described by the Reagan administration.

I'm saying that trickle-down economics doesn't work in the slightest to benefit the poor people. That's the entire reason for the wealth gap.

I also said it was contrary to the economy of scale to place the interests of the individual above the interests of the factory/collective/state.

The economy of scale is the basic model of modern economics, without that, you are some savage tribesman living in the jungle. The only people who don't utilize economy of scale are the random indigenous people around the world who don't engage with society and still live primitive lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:28:17 No.13079479 Report

Quoted By: >>13079683 >>13079745

>>13079233
I'm more curious about you, why do you respond to him at such length?

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Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:38:20 No.13079669 Report

Quoted By: >>13079745 >>13079768

>>13079420
>Workplace democracy basically makes building the workplace in the first place pointless, because the workplace democracy rapidly destroys the factory. You would build a factory... Just so you can burn it down?
Complete non sequitur that makes no fucking sense. How does workplace democracy destroy the factory when studies have shown it increases worker efficiency?
>stability, success, and growth of the company.
A factory doesn't need an expositive company to operate it. Since the goal is to produce value it should be maximized by having a democratically run factory instead of having the factory run by an exploitive corporation.
>>13079424
>It's because the unionists demanded wages that weren't sustainable.
They were sustainable, the capitalists just were not willing to pay them because they would have lowered their profits. The very nature of capitalism is
>The capitalist seeks to maximize his profits while lowering the cost of production
Which explains why american wagies in the 50s and 60s were able to afford a house without buying on credit and were also able to provide for their families. The US dollar became inflated when the national debt started rising but the workers saw no change in pay.
>because they are fired or killed if they make the wrong one
I'm afraid you consumed too much propaganda

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FlRlJ9h6 Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:41:19 No.13079683 Report

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>>13079434
I don't support reagan's economics I just agree with some basic logical ideas pretty much everyone knows about. That being said fuck taxation.
>>13079479
Just to point out his retardation desu, that and I want to practice debating

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 20:59:12 No.13079745 Report

Quoted By: >>13079767

>>13079479
me? I respond to nobody at great length. >>13075853 See that post. Those quotes are just me talking to nobody.

I can type fairly quickly and enjoy hearing myself "talk" as I'm writing these things on the board. It's sort of like beautiful people looking in the mirror and masturbating to their own appearance due to being pleased and sexually attracted to it. Guilty as charged. ;)

I respond to him at length because he's willing to give me company, which I appreciate, even if he is stubborn and a little on the peculiar side of reasoning. I would respond to you at great length as well if you had anything you would like to talk about.

I'm between jobs right now and just have time to kill until the next one.

>>13079479
You really find this Canadian Communist to be more reasonable than myself? I understand that my arguments may be distasteful, but surely you can understand the difference between reason and preference, no?

>>13079669
>worker efficiency

>Democracy: Yield up 110% ; Cost 200%
>No democracy: Yield 100% : Cost 100%

It destroys the factory due to net yield being crippled by the massive overhead it produces. The lower the net yield of the factory, the less money it has to reinvest in the factory, hence the story of selling crack.

>>13079669
>produce value it should be maximized by having a democratically run factory

I'm not saying that there should be a "big fat pig that owns the factory". I'm arguing that the factory should be seen as a God, where you pay tribute to the factory. Where you take as little from the factory as possible, and you give as much as possible. You revere the factory for being that which gives you the sustenance you need to survive in the form of liquid capital in exchange for your labors.

I think the owners of the factory should be paid minimum wage as well. The profit of the factory needs to be reinvested into the factory in order to increase output, innovate, expand, and further attempt to dominate the market.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dHs6GN0E Sat 03 Jul 2021 21:05:23 No.13079767 Report

Quoted By: >>13079776

>>13079745
>You really find this Canadian Communist to be more reasonable than myself?

Absolutely, without any doubt.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 21:06:13 No.13079768 Report

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>>13079669
>just were not willing to pay them because they would have lowered their profits

There is not some magical amount of dragon gold these "capitalists sit on". They need to produce this profit to reinvest in the factory.

>pic related
>is your mountain of dragon gold
>it's the amount of money Jeff Bezos has

>Which explains why american wagies in the 50s and 60s were able to afford a house without buying on credit and were also able to provide for their families

Did capitalism not exist in the 50s and 60s? How could these people do this if the Pig Dragon was sitting on the big pile of Gold? Was America a socialist country?

These "wagies" were just getting fat drinking the blood spilled by the war in Europe. Europe was in shambles, the American people capitalized upon this. Europe suffered throughout this period because the American proles were drinking their fucking blood, metaphorically, meaning "exploiting" these war-torn nations for profit.

>>because they are fired or killed if they make the wrong one
>I'm afraid you consumed too much propaganda

I just as myself "What would I do in this situation?", and clearly I would kill these people for treason or indignation, likely make a fucking scene out off it so people know better than to question the state.

What would I do? I would take this man, I would force his co-workers, his friends, and his family to beat him to death, slowly. Because this shows me which of these are more loyal to the individual, the traitor, and which are more loyal to the state. Those who are hesitant in their punches are less loyal to the state than those who are ferocious.

This was the entire purpose of communal mass stonings back in the hayday of civilization. This was team-building, a way to build loyalty to the community, and a way to see who was tempted by individualism or treason. Those with the most faith in the community are those who throw stones the hardest at the traitors.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 21:11:05 No.13079776 Report

Quoted By: >>13080119

>>13079767
>Do you consider yourself to be a strong reader?
>How well do you understand economics? >Human Psychology?
>Do you believe yourself to be educated?
>Do you believe feelings are important?
>Do you feel entitled to anything for being alive?
> Do you believe in civil rights or human rights?
>Do you feel unfairly compensated for your labor?
>Do you feel exploited?
>Are you more loyal to yourself or the state?
>Do you feel you have rights above the state?
>Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?

Just to give me some context to understand. Introduce yourself. Thanks for joining us.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sat 03 Jul 2021 23:33:15 No.13080119 Report

Quoted By: >>13080237

>>13079776
>Commies flee when they hear McCarthy's voice
>Thinking I'm not going door to door

Stay roaches, you fucking subhumans. You know you're getting stomped on the second you scurry out of the darkness and into the light.

Don't cry, I'm just talking some shit right here. I expect you to return fire. Where's the fun if we don't shoot at each other? That sounds pretty gay and un-American.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:29:13 No.13080237 Report

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>>13080119
>tfw socialist

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:beYMNyyI Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:31:26 No.13080239 Report

Quoted By: >>13080254

You need meds and BBC

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Anonymous ID:21cQ1JF2 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:37:45 No.13080254 Report

Quoted By: >>13080413 >>13080420 >>13080423 >>13080429 >>13080431

>>13080239
You'd know about BBC, right wop?

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:41:01 No.13080413 Report

Quoted By: >>13080419 >>13080439

>>13080254
>The Punics, Carthaginians or Western Phoenicians, were a group of peoples in the Western Mediterranean who traced their origins to the Phoenicians.

>Phoenicia (/fəˈnJʃə, -ˈniː-/[4]) was an ancient Semitic-speaking thalassocratic civilization that originated in the Levant region of the eastern Mediterranean, primarily located in modern Lebanon

>Ancient Semitic-speaking peoples or Proto-Semitic people were Western Asian people who lived throughout the ancient Near East, including the Levant, Mesopotamia, the Arabian Peninsula, and the Horn of Africa from the 3rd millennium BC until the end of antiquity.

Carthage was as black as the Jews. Do I need to educate you about Carthage? Pic related. Inb4 you can't read. I would use black penises instead of words, to tempt you into reading them, but I don't have that font option.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:43:23 No.13080419 Report

Quoted By: >>13080445

>>13080413

>Carthage was a legitimate child of the Phoenicians
>Jews were bastard children of the Phoenicians

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:44:04 No.13080420 Report

Quoted By: >>13080445 >>13080459

>>13080254
White people

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:44:28 No.13080423 Report

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>>13080254
Politically correct Satan

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:44:59 No.13080429 Report

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>>13080254
More Canaanite ritual

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:45:18 No.13080431 Report

Quoted By: >>13080445

>>13080254
Humor

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:21cQ1JF2 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:47:13 No.13080439 Report

Quoted By: >>13080456 >>13080459 >>13080470 >>13080478

>>13080413
> CARTGAGE WAS AS BLACK AS JEWS!!!11!
> Phoenician empire encompassed the Med, Carthage was north African, both of which had a muddy brown Arab complexions just as they do today

But they were Jewish in appearance, eh? Sorry, the genetic make-up of North Africa hasn't changed all that much in the last few thousand years, little dash of sub-saharan here and there.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:21cQ1JF2 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:48:29 No.13080445 Report

Quoted By: >>13080460

>>13080419
>>13080420
>>13080423
>>13080429
>>13080431
Holy shit you went HAAM with the samefag, huh?

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:52:06 No.13080456 Report

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>>13080439
>muddy brown Arab complexions just as they do today

Pic related are Jews. What the fuck do you think Jews look like? Just because Jews in the Northern Realms committed bestiality with goyim, have pale skin, live in the shadows and don't tan doesn't change the fact that they're the same people.

>Somebody says "Jews"
>He thinks of blood polluted Goy-whisperer Northern Realms abomination Jews

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:53:09 No.13080459 Report

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>>13080439
>USA

Read >>13080420

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:53:48 No.13080460 Report

Quoted By: >>13080494

>>13080445
>Holy shit you went HAAM with the samefag, huh?
>80 posts by this id

You don't seem to know where you are, little boy...

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 00:57:17 No.13080470 Report

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>>13080439
>But they were Jewish in appearance, eh?

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 01:04:25 No.13080478 Report

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>>13080439

> CARTGAGE WAS AS BLACK AS JEWS!!!11!

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 01:19:59 No.13080494 Report

Quoted By: >>13080652

>>13080460
>You don't seem to know where you are, little boy...

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 02:04:16 No.13080652 Report

Quoted By: >>13080845

>>13080494

I got dope ass memes in this bitch. Come get some. Do requests. I don't have the cartoon kind tho.

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Anonymous ID:a+ZRm+D8 Sun 04 Jul 2021 02:36:17 No.13080845 Report

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>>13080652
lol homos if you slide this shit /PBG/ is coming back. Take your pick. Teamwork makes the dream work. Make my day, motherfuckers. Dream come true right there.

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