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I need to get out of California

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:34:23 No.13128348 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13128350 >>13128355 >>13128362 >>13128373 >>13128376 >>13128377 >>13128389 >>13128408 >>13128435 >>13128444 >>13128482 >>13128506 >>13128527

It is only 36% white and dropping rapidly since the border crisis. We are unironically just going to become Mexico 2.0 within the decade. This state has no future, I need to get to New England. Do things like this happen in your country?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:36:07 No.13128349 Report

Quoted By: >>13128351

Are you a democrat or republican?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:37:16 No.13128350 Report

Quoted By: >>13128352 >>13128354 >>13128367 >>13128413

>>13128348
california was never white

also whats wrong with mexicans and asians?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:38:29 No.13128351 Report

Quoted By: >>13128517

>>13128349
Fucking neither. Our politics are fucked. I want cheaper healthcare and college, but also low immigration, gun and speech rights, and patriotism for the country.
>>148468047
Most Californians well the hispanicization of the state with open arms.

not OP

not OP Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:38:30 No.13128352 Report

Quoted By: >>13128355

>>13128350
I HATE pinoys. Theyre the most arrogant, annoying asians Ive ever met

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:38:58 No.13128353 Report

Quoted By: >>13128356 >>13128410

it really is insane. I did a roadtrip from southern arizona to monument valley and utah and it went from feeling like I was in mexico most of the time to literally everyone being white

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:39:30 No.13128354 Report

Quoted By: >>13128412

>>13128350
Yes it was retard. In the 80s it was 75% white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:41:10 No.13128355 Report

Quoted By: >>13128357

>>13128352
What’s wrong with Filipinos?
>>13128348
People blame Hispanics since they are a easy boogeyman when white libs ruined it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:42:08 No.13128356 Report

Quoted By: >>13128410

>>13128353
The only white parts of the Southwestern US are suburban enclaves now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:43:09 No.13128357 Report

Quoted By: >>13128358 >>13128361 >>13128528

>>13128355
White liberals enabled horrendous policies, such as the unfettered immigration of Mexicans

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:44:58 No.13128358 Report

Quoted By: >>13128359 >>13128361

>>13128357
The cancers of California (skid row, San Francisco , east oakland ) aren’t overwhelmingly Hispanic but go on

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:46:11 No.13128359 Report

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>>13128358
I'm not saying that Mexicans are the sole cause of California being shitty. I am saying that I don't want to live in a brown state.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:48:22 No.13128360 Report

Quoted By: >>13128364 >>13128414

Why are anxious white Americans refusing to accept their future, America will retain its preeminence with a Latino majority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:48:26 No.13128361 Report

Quoted By: >>13128396

>>13128357
>>13128358
Unfettered immigration can very easily becoming a cancer to a region.

CHI

CHI Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:51:23 No.13128362 Report

Quoted By: >>13128363

>>13128348
I don't mind it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:53:05 No.13128363 Report

Quoted By: >>13128366 >>13128368

>>13128362
Of course you don't Chicanx

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:54:39 No.13128364 Report

Quoted By: >>13128417

>>13128360
Also the growing number of Latino politicians, it's inevitable we'll have a Cruz, Rubio or Cortez at the helm. The first Latino superpower, first Latino nuclear power. A complete Brasil

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:55:07 No.13128365 Report

Quoted By: >>13128372

Where will you go? People of Northern European descent will attempt to the death to import the entire third world to their home to displace themselves, recreating the problem wherever you go, unless the place is so undesirable to live in like west virginia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:55:38 No.13128366 Report

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>>13128363
We could of allied with whites but look at how that worked out , grim

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:56:00 No.13128367 Report

Quoted By: >>13128369 >>13128375 >>13128412

>>13128350
>california was never white

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:56:47 No.13128368 Report

Quoted By: >>13128369 >>13128419

>>13128363
>>13128366
why is there even conflict between whites and mexicans? whites and mexicans get along just fine for the most part? mexicans used to be considered white even

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 18:59:40 No.13128369 Report

Quoted By: >>13128371

>>13128368
There’s been anti Hispanic sentiment in the media and online for some reason, not even from the right alone , in real life I don’t really care
>>13128367
High test

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:00:03 No.13128370 Report

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>>13128366
>could have

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:05:09 No.13128371 Report

Quoted By: >>13128374

>>13128369
im a white guy and i experienced discrimination in california by a mexican guy. was at a junk yard trying to find a car part and he lied and told me nobody was around to help me while he and his employees were helping everyone else there (none of them were white)

just sucks. why cant we get along

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:10:27 No.13128372 Report

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>>13128365
I know that libs will ruin their white states eventually too, but at least in my lifetime ill enjoy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:11:28 No.13128373 Report

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>>13128348
You could immigrate to Mexico. It's like California, but cheaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:11:32 No.13128374 Report

Quoted By: >>13128378

>>13128371
He was probably scared of the language barrier , but if he was speaking English with everyone else then that’s brutal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:11:42 No.13128375 Report

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>>13128367
The white percentage is a bit higher when you include the whole state, but yeah, that graph shows what is happening to thos state and only worsening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:14:10 No.13128376 Report

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>>13128348
Just give it back cletus and no one gets hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:15:30 No.13128377 Report

Quoted By: >>13128379

>>13128348
sell anything that doesn't matter and drive the fuck out to any state that is less cucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:18:41 No.13128378 Report

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>>13128374
yeah he was speaking english with other customers there. im white and was with my white gf so i can assume he just wanted to fuck me over, which he succeeded. worst part is i *can* speak spanish but i havent had much practice and therefore insecure about it. i bet if i spoke to him in spanish it would have gone totally different

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:20:07 No.13128379 Report

Quoted By: >>13128854

>>13128377
I'm stuck his for university sadly. I can't afford the ridiculous out of state tuition that colleges charge in the states id like to move to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:20:39 No.13128380 Report

Quoted By: >>13128381 >>13128383

I don't get it. Why is the white population declining so much in California but not other states where people are leaving?

Look at Illinois, New York, New Jersey. People are leaving those places but it's still majority white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:21:26 No.13128381 Report

Quoted By: >>13128382 >>13128870

>>13128380
Governor Jerry Brown

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:22:29 No.13128382 Report

Quoted By: >>13128870

>>13128381
Can you elaborate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:22:37 No.13128383 Report

Quoted By: >>13128384 >>13128385 >>13128397

>>13128380
Because we are right on the border and browns pour over in droves. I find it hilarious how liberal northern states are all pro illegal immigration but don't have to actually deal with the consequences. And fucking Biden's rhetoric about illegals caused a massive crisis at the border which pretty much sealed California's fate as Mexico 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:23:53 No.13128384 Report

Quoted By: >>13128386

>>13128383
>consequences
what are the consequences of more mexicans in california? what do they do that's bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:25:44 No.13128385 Report

Quoted By: >>13128387

>>13128383
So there's not less white people because more whites are leaving, but because more illegals are entering thus lowering the white percentage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:25:48 No.13128386 Report

Quoted By: >>13128387 >>13128388 >>13128404 >>13128420

>>13128384
Mass migration causes lower wages, a strain on social programs, most don't integrate well or speak English at a level even close to fluency, most have no loyalty to the US. Plus I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting to live around other white people instead of brown people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:27:17 No.13128387 Report

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>>13128385
No. People are leaving California in large numbers, and they are mostly white.
>>13128386
Plus when the majority of the population becomes Hispanics who are fundamentally not American, that allows them to take over California politically which could have endless terrible consequences

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:28:28 No.13128388 Report

Quoted By: >>13128390

>>13128386
Damn. I have nothing against illegals but if those are true then I would rather have stronger border laws. But honestly the US needs to make it easier to become a citizen so these people don't have to crowd into sanctuary states.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:29:44 No.13128389 Report

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>>13128348
Isnt mexico better than califonia

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:30:14 No.13128390 Report

Quoted By: >>13128392 >>13128409

>>13128388
No. They need to deport them. Sanctuary states allow for containment zones which is a better solution than allowing any border hopper to go wherever. We should help make their countries not shitholes so they just stop coming here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:30:28 No.13128391 Report

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>>148468047
Most white people in California live in enclaves so there isn't any reason to start racial conflict. Asians and Hispanics are generally pretty mellow if you don't fuck with them too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:31:25 No.13128392 Report

Quoted By: >>13128393

>>13128390
>They need to deport them
Would that actually happen or work? Would California ever mass deport their illegals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:32:34 No.13128393 Report

Quoted By: >>13128395

>>13128392
Not the Californian government. The federal government would have to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:34:48 No.13128394 Report

Quoted By: >>13128401

>entertainment people moving to Atlanta
>tech people moving to Austin
>middle class moving to a bunch of different states

Will these actually happen significantly enough that California will see a massive drop in population and essentially be over?
>it's happening now
You know what I mean. Hollywood and Silicon Valley are still booming with people and California as a whole still has a shitload of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:35:52 No.13128395 Report

Quoted By: >>13128400

>>13128393
Ok, but would they do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:40:34 No.13128396 Report

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>>13128361
wouldnt you know Yonaikerson

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:40:50 No.13128397 Report

Quoted By: >>13128399

>>13128383
>All northern states are pro illegal immigration
I am pro immigration (legal), but my state isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:45:30 No.13128398 Report

Quoted By: >>13128404

It'd be funny af if cartels started operations in California

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:48:07 No.13128399 Report

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>>13128397
I said liberal northern states

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:49:08 No.13128400 Report

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>>13128395
A lot of conservatives are anti-immigration because they don't want to become the minority in the country. Trump was a manifestation of that. If you get an actual competent person in office then they could do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:50:35 No.13128401 Report

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>>13128394
Not sure if it will be enough to collapse the state, but it'll become less and less relevant. This isn't exaggeration when I say most people I know want to leave, and if it is wealthy and successful people leaving then that means less money for California and therefore it becomes poorer and then the cycle continues.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 19:53:03 No.13128402 Report

Quoted By: >>13128403

I hope OP leaves before the new calcovidbucks so we don't waste money on him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 20:03:51 No.13128403 Report

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>>13128402
I've gotten 10k from covid unemployment in California, and an extra 20k from using that money in crypto. I'll use the money to ditch this shithole and won't pay a cent to cuckifornia taxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 20:44:07 No.13128404 Report

Quoted By: >>13128405

>>13128386
>most have no loyalty to the US
I find this point interesting. Usually a society is connected by their shared mythology and customs, but most hispanics don't share one nor the other.
Do hispanics enlist to the army?

>>13128398
Silly anon, but of course cartels operate in all parts of the US. They don't sell the drug in Mexico, we are merely their transport and storage, their "retails" and salesman are all in the US

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 20:49:14 No.13128405 Report

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>>13128404
They enlist the army for the reasons I stated before, money and benefits. I have no doubt that if conflict were to break out between US and Mexico (not that I've ever want that), they abandon ship immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 21:43:27 No.13128406 Report

Quoted By: >>13128469

>>148468047
shoot them just for existing? lmao at the absolute state

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:09:01 No.13128407 Report

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I am happy to hear that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:11:27 No.13128408 Report

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>>13128348
>NOOOOOOOOOOO THE PLACE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY HISPANIC MAJORITY IS NOW HISPANIC MAJORITY AGAIN!!!!!

White Californian liberal trash deserve to be replaced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:11:42 No.13128409 Report

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>>13128390
>We should help make their countries not shitholes so they just stop coming here.
we're currently doing that by overthrowing wh*Toidism

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:18:59 No.13128410 Report

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>>13128353
Blame your ancestors for that. The Southwest is what mexico would’ve been if it were a developed country.

>>13128356
I go to the Southwest a lot that is total bullshit. It’s half white hispanic, ironically enough it’s really close to its population composition during the Wild West era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:20:42 No.13128411 Report

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soon this entire continent will be mixed-race and I'm glad to see this happening
whitoids BTFO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:21:14 No.13128412 Report

Quoted By: >>13128423

>>13128354
>>13128367

Nope. That is literally false data based on estimations. Conservatives like using it to try and prove the US never had Hispanic people. They simply used to count Hispanics as White until the 80s.

You can look at the 1970 census yourself. There is no Hispanic or Latino category. Just White and Negro. They literally count people born in Mexico as "white stock" lmao. California didn't go from no Hispanics to 20% Hispanic suddenly in 1980. They simply were not considered a separate category until then.

https://www2.census.gov/prod2/statcomp/documents/1971-02.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:22:44 No.13128413 Report

Quoted By: >>13128415

>>13128350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-l13UMBlkM

White af.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:24:26 No.13128414 Report

Quoted By: >>13128416 >>13128418 >>13128430

>>13128360
A white + hispanic baby is either a caztizo or a white baby. Also, the reality is the US is probably gonna halt at 50% before staying stable or going up again. Since all minority groups have more in common with the whites than each other, white america will be a Jupiter with orbiters but a Hispanic domination is off the table, so is a total brazilian situation.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:26:07 No.13128415 Report

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>>13128413
The 50s fucking sucked. Crime was higher and there was a 20% poverty rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:26:09 No.13128416 Report

Quoted By: >>13128422

>>13128414
What if said hispanic has mostly native ancestry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:26:09 No.13128417 Report

Quoted By: >>13128421

>>13128364
A lot of Hispanics are just native Spanish european diaspora. However, it shows the future in detail. It won’t be a leftist multiracial South African dystopia, it’ll be still white for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:27:56 No.13128418 Report

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>>13128414
Birth rates are falling in Mexico itself too. People keep pointing to better investment by the Mexican government as why incomes there have slowly improved over the last decade and a half, but it's really just because Mexicans have less children now so it's more likely that their kids will get an education, a normal job and be able to become middle class. Hispanics having less kids is good for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:29:03 No.13128419 Report

Quoted By: >>13128423

>>13128368
Not all, but Spanish Americans (as european of diaspora as the others) which make up a whopping third of all Hispanics used to be considered white but are now considered brown. Spaniards were considered white in WW2 but are not now and this is the Southwest we’re talking about, the region that’s been half hispanic for all its history in the US.

We need a new category, our race system does not work for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:30:26 No.13128420 Report

Quoted By: >>13128425

>>13128386
> most have no loyalty to the US.
Neither do the people who'd rather see a rapidly aging, shrinking US than allow others who don't look like them in. (People who themselves form the demand that gives migrants something to expect, and whose harsh border policies broke the circular migration that kept in-migration down). Yet nobody calls for their expulsion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:31:11 No.13128421 Report

Quoted By: >>13128427

>>13128417
>A lot of Hispanics are just native Spanish european diaspora.
80% of Hispanics are Mexican and Mexico has a pretty homogenously even split between Indigenous and European. They're the Latin American nation that's closest to a genuine 50/50 split. There is typically only a 10% to 15% skew either way across the whole country. But it is true that in general as Mexicans mix with Whites, their kids will most likely end up 75% White on average.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:31:37 No.13128422 Report

Quoted By: >>13128424 >>13128428 >>13128429

>>13128416
They don’t, they’re either half whites, 75% whites, or completely european. Indios don’t come here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:32:58 No.13128423 Report

Quoted By: >>13128434

>>13128419
>Spaniards were considered white in WW2 but are not now
The used to count anyone that spoke Spanish as "Spanish". Look at the 1970 census. >>13128412

They considered Mexicans to be White and "Spanish" during world war 2 as well. That's why there were Mexicans in non-segregated combat units in WW2.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:33:48 No.13128424 Report

Quoted By: >>13128432

>>13128422
They do, not the majority but they exist. Probably 1 or 2 out of 10. Cesar chavez looks like someone who mostly native.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:34:05 No.13128425 Report

Quoted By: >>13128431 >>13128434

>>13128420
I'm Hispanic and unironically am more patriotic than White zoomer fuckwits who spend their day bitching about how America is evil and the army and police shouldn't exist. I'm unironically glad we'll replace those people.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:34:35 No.13128426 Report

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>non-hispanic white
and without the italians, polish, irish, jewish, nordic poor white we are left with what %?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:35:40 No.13128427 Report

Quoted By: >>13128433 >>13128536

>>13128421
No no these aren’t Mexicans I’m talking about. They’ve been in the rough Arizona-Texas region since the 1500-1600s with their only connection being that of new Spain. Most of the oldest Catholic Churches on the continent are in that region. The anglo settlers learned how to be cowboys from them. At least half of most Mexican American are from northern Mexico, this recent wave was mostly south Mexicans.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:35:59 No.13128428 Report

Quoted By: >>13128436 >>13128443

>>13128422
Nigga what. The first Chicano astronaut was literally a Mexican indian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:37:12 No.13128429 Report

Quoted By: >>13128436

>>13128422
>Indios don’t come here.
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:37:37 No.13128430 Report

Quoted By: >>13128442

>>13128414
>more Mexicans leaving

How can they count the amount of illegals that come or go?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:38:13 No.13128431 Report

Quoted By: >>13128437

>>13128425
the zoomer libs unironically think you don't speak english if they see you on the street

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:40:08 No.13128432 Report

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>>13128424
Cesario Estrada Chavez was born in Yuma, Arizona on March 31, 1927.[1] He was named for his paternal grandfather, Cesario Chavez, a Mexican who had crossed into Texas in 1898.[2] Cesario had established a successful wood haulage business near Yuma and in 1906 bought a farm in the Sonora Desert's North Gila Valley.[3] Cesario had brought his wife Dorotea and eight children with him from Mexico; the youngest, Librado, was Cesar's father.[2] Librado married Juana Estrada Chavez in the early 1920s.[4]

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:40:15 No.13128433 Report

Quoted By: >>13128441 >>13128446

>>13128427
If you're talking about Neo-Mexicanos, there are not a lot of them. They're no where close to being 1/3rd of the Hispanic population. 2/3rds of the entire US Hispanic population are Chicanos alone. There aren't even 1 million NeoMexicanos. I'm a Californio (actual pre 1700 Californio) and there are only a half million of us too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:40:52 No.13128434 Report

Quoted By: >>13128438 >>13128440

>>13128423
Spain is european, and has held cultural sway over the southwest longer than even the idea of America being a thing.

>>13128425
You’re not gonna replace them but we’re gonna be saying grace that we got you instead of the culturally distant people Europe got that led to tensions.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:41:01 No.13128435 Report

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>>13128348
i want to get out of california too, but because it's filled with cisgender iranian females. too many of my compatriots live here and i can't go outside without seeing cisgender iranian females. i wish my parents and extended family never moved here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:43:28 No.13128436 Report

Quoted By: >>13128439

>>13128428
>>13128429

I stand corrected I’m sorry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:44:19 No.13128437 Report

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>>13128431
I genuinely encounter more prejudicial bullshit from "woke" White people than normal Whites. Like they insist that you fit into their weird cringe world view. Inversely poltard types are actually pretty rare IRL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:45:20 No.13128438 Report

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>>13128434
But most Hispanics in the US are not Spanish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:45:32 No.13128439 Report

Quoted By: >>13128445

>>13128436
there are more mayans in the usa than in guatemala/mexico

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:46:06 No.13128440 Report

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>>13128434
>Spain is european, and has held cultural sway over the southwest longer than even the idea of America being a thing.

That would be the natives of the area, mostly nomadic barbarian people who the spanish couldnt conquer, the settlers in the area were mostly isolated from everything so developed in isolution with influence from natives. Think of it as a lawless chaotic fronteir full of hostile natives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:46:53 No.13128441 Report

Quoted By: >>13128449

>>13128433
I specifically left California out for a reason. That actually was a region that anglo Americans out populated the Hispanics. They’re a very prominent part of Arizona, New Mexico, and West Texas still. The ones that aren’t are still not that recent. There was a big hispanic migration wave in the 1910s-30s too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:49:02 No.13128442 Report

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>>13128430
It’s a secure wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:49:07 No.13128443 Report

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>>13128428
>mexicans stole the statue they made for him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:49:30 No.13128444 Report

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>>13128348
>only 36% white
Nigga its always been 30 to 40% white goddamn it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:50:57 No.13128445 Report

Quoted By: >>13128447

>>13128439
>there are more mayans in the usa than in guatemala/mexico

There aren't. There are a little under a million. Half of them bizarrely aren't even in big migrant zones like Los Angeles but in semi-rural parts of Washington and Oregon. I actually worked with Mayan people twice and learned some Kaqchikel. The Mexican Mayans work in oil a lot here and the Guatemalan ones are mechanics and tradies pretty often. A lot of the non-skilled ones move to the pacific northwest because unlike California, you can actually afford a house on the $15 per hour farm labor jobs they have. I'm not sure why Central Americans flock to Los Angeles. It's much harder to thrive here unless you're already skilled or upper income.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:51:51 No.13128446 Report

Quoted By: >>13128448 >>13128450 >>13128505

>>13128433
They are absolutely not all mestizo types though. Least half of all Hispanics are white or 75% white. Rest, I agree is what you would think of as a Hispanic.

This is what got me skeptical of the minority majority thing

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/05/majority-minority-america-will-more-hispanics-and-asians-become-white.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:53:56 No.13128447 Report

Quoted By: >>13128455

>>13128445
Boston has the irish, New York the Italians, Cedar Rapids the Czech, New Orleans the French. I think the only thing Hispanics will do to the US is give LA and other southwest cities a Hispanic Immigrant theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:54:31 No.13128448 Report

Quoted By: >>13128451

>>13128446
You should know that Hispanics overestimate the amount of white in them for obvious reasons.

You can't trust that White Hispanic stuff because it's self-identified.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:55:59 No.13128449 Report

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>>13128441
>That actually was a region that anglo Americans out populated the Hispanics.

Californios still outnumbered Anglos right up until the 1880s when the cowboy era started dying. The governor and the elites in California were largely Mexicans too until about 1875-1885. Anglos actually respected Mexicans/Californios and left them alone until they gained absolute majority in the 1880s and only then did they start trying to rob them at fuck them over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:57:16 No.13128450 Report

Quoted By: >>13128452

>>13128446
>Least half of all Hispanics are white or 75% white.

lmao no. 2/3rds of Hispanics are Mexican-Americans and the overwhelming majority of those are mestizos, i'd even say slightly darker than most Mexicans, though not full fledged indigenous like some like to claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:57:19 No.13128451 Report

Quoted By: >>13128458

>>13128448
I’ve seen most 23 and me Hispanics, plus this is America. Many more people Larp as brown. If you’re a German diaspora descendent from Argentina that migrated to the US, you’re considered a POC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:00:13 No.13128452 Report

Quoted By: >>13128454 >>13128456

>>13128450
Mexican Americans still have the same differences here as they did in Mexico. These are half european people, because the average mestizo is a half european. A lot of former Mexican immigration was from the north. They make up a good part of the Texan and New Mexican populations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:01:22 No.13128453 Report

Quoted By: >>13128457 >>13128459

California is a shithole and is getting worse year on yesr OP but i wouldn't suggest new england. If what you really want is to live in a white state you're better off looking outside the USA. All of new england save only maine has majority brown birth rates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:02:59 No.13128454 Report

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>>13128452
Also most of those caztizo types are also Mexican Americans. 2/3rds of Mexican Americans are mestizo, one third being caztizo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:03:06 No.13128455 Report

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>>13128447
Actually in a few parts of Oregon i'd say the majority of "Hispanics" are actually straight up Mayan people. They're a small minority and I think that's probably the only part of the US where they are a relevant group of people. The area just east of Portland is full of them. Mostly tradies and agriculture workers. They get into fights with gypsies kek. You can tell which were born in Mexico/Guatemala and which were born here because the US born ones will literally be like half a foot taller than their foreign born parents who are like fucking 5 feet tall. There are apparently some of them in Georgia of all places too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:04:41 No.13128456 Report

Quoted By: >>13128460

>>13128452
Most chicanos are not White. Stop trying to pretend they are. I am a Californio with part of my moms side being literal White Mexicans and that is very much a minority. Unmixed Whites in Mexico itself are a minority too at like 15% of the population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:04:47 No.13128457 Report

Quoted By: >>13128462

>>13128453
You’re fucking retarded.

>but that one blue, orange, and booger green colored map

It’s almost completely wrong and it’s embarrassingly wrong about Utah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:06:15 No.13128458 Report

Quoted By: >>13128461 >>13128505

>>13128451
You just have to look at their countries of origin though. The whites (and even castizos) are a minority, and most of the migrations has been post 1950.

It is stupid that people like Guillermo del Toro are counted as POC, but he's far from the norm. The norm for mexicans is like Alex Padilla or Julian Castro.

There are exceptions, like most Cuban migrants are white or close to white because all of the wealthy people and middle class people were the ones that left first. And those tended to be white.

But most Hispanics in the US are Mexican, Central American, and PR

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:06:16 No.13128459 Report

Quoted By: >>13128462

>>13128453
>California is a shithole and is getting worse year on yesr OP but i wouldn't suggest new england. If what you really want is to live in a white state you're better off looking outside the USA. All of new england save only maine has majority brown birth rates.

Australia is just a larger soulless version of California with shittier wildlife. We're sure as fuck better than the east. All those memes about California being a commie shithole are even truer of those states. Gun laws are far worse there too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:07:06 No.13128460 Report

Quoted By: >>13128463

>>13128456
Oh that I understand. I’ve never seen that many spanish people, it’s Mestizos and caztizos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:10:17 No.13128461 Report

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>>13128458
They’re about 2/3rds.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:10:34 No.13128462 Report

Quoted By: >>13128465 >>13128466

>>13128457
Cope troon, you tried to claim Utah wasn't accurate last time but people who had moved to Utah from california pointed out your bullshit. Utah has tons of immigration.
>>13128459
We don't have giant slums and homeless people everywhere in our cities, nor do we have gated suburbs and mass capital flight. I've been to california and seen it for myself, can you say the same about Australia or are you just butthurt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:11:08 No.13128463 Report

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>>13128460
Atleast 10-20% are indios, 75-80% mestizos and rest being castizos.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:16:04 No.13128464 Report

Quoted By: >>13128467

>>148468047
>why the fuck you just don't shoot to poc? you are all armed, aren't you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:18:23 No.13128465 Report

Quoted By: >>13128468 >>13128472

>>13128462
>We don't have giant slums and homeless people everywhere in our cities,

65% of the homeless in California aren't from here. Our state gives out more benefits than any other state and homeless people won't freeze to death here in winter so the whole country sends their mentally ill and drug addicted to California so they don't have to pay for them. They'll literally give their homeless people a bus ticket to California so they don't have to deal with it. It's Greyhound therapy. These are also the states that claim to be good Christians kek. California alone would be the 5th more relevant country in the world if independent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:18:33 No.13128466 Report

Quoted By: >>13128472

>>13128462
No it isn’t.

Utah:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/Peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=49&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3

Colorado:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/Peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=08&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3

Arizona:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=04&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3

Oklahoma:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/Peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=40&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3

Oregon:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/Peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=41&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3

Washington:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/Peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=53&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3

California and Texas are probably accurate, so is nevada. Florida will probably be majority hispanic in the future.

Do agree California is a homeless ridden shtihole.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:19:24 No.13128467 Report

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>>13128464
Poles are literally POC tier kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:19:34 No.13128468 Report

Quoted By: >>13128471

>>13128465
Then kick their dog asses out or build wards. You have HALF the country’s homeless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:20:03 No.13128469 Report

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>>13128406
brown peoples' existence is an inconvenience

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:20:50 No.13128470 Report

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I was just a puppet on a string
I gave you everything
Wish I knew your love was untrue
That would have saved some soul searching
Now I'm nobody's clown
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I'm sorry if I treated you badly
I only wanted to love you madly
If you came back, I'd take you back gladly
But that's not going to happen sadly
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This ain't my first rodeo
But it's my first being the clown
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And haven't been back around
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Until you cut me down
They say a man is supposed to be strong enough
To stand up on his two
But they don't understand how it feels to think you found the one
And be number two, yeah
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Now I'm nobody's clown
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Now I'm nobody's clown
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Well, well, well
Nobody, nobody,
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Nobody wants a clown
Somebody, somebody,
Somebody, somebody,
Somebody please take this clown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvJTEct-gUw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:28:59 No.13128471 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128468
>Then kick their dog asses out or build wards. You have HALF the country’s homeless.

Police and city governments have literally tried to do that but the supreme court ruled that was illegal unless the same people kicking them out were also offering them alternative housing FOR FREE. Not even memeing. The government literally fucks over California and says we basically have to solve the problems for all of these people even though the majority aren't even fucking Californians. I'd support CA becoming independent just to kick all the fucking tweakers and bums out. Fucking hypocritical bay area faggots are sending their homeless to Los Angeles too despite their bullshit about caring about them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:29:03 No.13128472 Report

Quoted By: >>13128473 >>13128475 >>13128477

>>13128465
>Other states made the homeless problem worse
Your state is still an absolute shithole with homeless everywhere whether you accept that or not

>>13128466
https://gardner.utah.edu/wp-content/uploads/Utah-Projections-Race-Ethnicity-2019.pdf
There's a difference between projected/estimated in many of these statistics. Can't specifically say why the outcomes are radically different, possibly due to immigration to states, even then your statistics show Utah at about 74, which isn't far off the mark of what was originally stated. The original image I used was citing government census data it requested, not sure about the validity of your website.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:30:49 No.13128473 Report

Quoted By: >>13128474

>>13128472
>Blank maps with no context

Learn to post better Zhang. We are literally the receptacle for the fuck ups from the rest of the country. If it were up to me we'd have an internal border and meter the out of state population flowing in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:32:34 No.13128474 Report

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>>13128473
The information about the map is in the bottom right Pablo, you should've learned to read images at the home depot induction course

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:34:21 No.13128475 Report

Quoted By: >>13128476 >>13128477 >>13128481 >>13128505

>>13128472
>it’s a projection

Well there’s your fucking problem. It’s a projection. It assumes Hispanics will keep their fertility and immigration which they both have not. They also have to deal with the fertility juggernaut that is the Mormons. Blacks probably won’t see an increase since they have suffered as big a fertility decline as whites. The asian group could still work though as they still have high immigration rates.

None of these projections never referance the fertility decline of minority groups and it puts a big dent in the numbers once referenced. Hell whites in the future might have a fertility edge.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:37:44 No.13128476 Report

Quoted By: >>13128478 >>13128486

>>13128475
The original projection vs estimation isn't even the biggest problem. It excludes the biggest demographic shifts which happen to states via immigration especially from central America. I never claimed anything I presented was perfect, census data never is.

Another issue is pic related, which is that minorities are less likely to fill out a census, so even in these situations will be under represented in US census data.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:46:50 No.13128477 Report

Quoted By: >>13128479 >>13128480 >>13128486

>>13128472
In 1940 they counted Mexicans as White Bruce Fong.

>>13128475
Blacks are actually declining as a percentage of the population. They kill and abort themselves too much. Asian Americans have lower fertility rates than Whites so even with their increasing immigration they aren't going to make a long term impact. Japanese and Vietnamese are for some reason the only Asians that have a lot of kids here (ironic given Japans low birthrates) but mass migration from those two countries hasn't been a thing for a long time. Foreign born Hispanics have more kids but more Hispanics are US born these days and those have birthrates very similar to Whites irl. Also note that Hispanics have very high intermixing rates with Whites. Long term the US will likely becoming slightly more Hispanic but not as much as people think and many will be 3/4ths White themselves. Asians will probably max out at under 10% of the US population but I honestly have zero issue with Asian migrants apart from a very specific type of arrogant Korean/Chinese who only come here for business then leave but those aren't very common.

A lot of mormons these days are Mexicans and Guatemalans but they like the general Hispanic population heavily mix with Whites. The Mormons unironically believe that the Aztec and Maya are actually ancient Jews and are are specially blessed kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:47:57 No.13128478 Report

Quoted By: >>13128479

>>13128476
HOLY SHIT A 4% DIFFERENCE AMONG HISPANICS

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:52:09 No.13128479 Report

Quoted By: >>13128484 >>13128485

>>13128478
The difference is a lot higher when you account for anything other than "not at all likely"
>>13128477
Yes they did, but the change in demographic change is still huge. Another big problem with the birth rate logic is that African blacks are also the largest growing population globally, and will inevitably immigrate to the US

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:52:46 No.13128480 Report

Quoted By: >>13128487

>>13128477
Most Koreans here open small businesses and push their kids to go to elite universities and their kids usually marry whites. Actually there's more hapa Japanese american women in America than pure Japanese american women. My gf is half korean half russian born in California so my kids will be quapas and look white. Same with hispanics, most are already mestizo/half european and as they marry whites they get more and more bleached.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:55:22 No.13128481 Report

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>>13128475
>They also have to deal with the fertility juggernaut that is the Mormons.
mormons have sub 2.0 birth rate now btw not to mention like a third of their millennial followers leave

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:55:30 No.13128482 Report

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>>13128348
Does California has wild brown bear?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:55:46 No.13128483 Report

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>>13128366
>We could of allied with whites but look at how that worked out , grim
ey esse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:55:50 No.13128484 Report

Quoted By: >>13128489 >>13128490

>>13128479
>Yes they did, but the change in demographic change is still huge. Another big problem with the birth rate logic is that African blacks are also the largest growing population globally, and will inevitably immigrate to the US

Hispanics and Asians hate Black people more than Whites. If anything, more Asians and Hispanics will make it less likely for Blacks to migrate here. Asians have stereotype of shooting Black people and Hispanics literally drive Black people out of their communities under violence. The only "ethnic cleansing" charges used in the US in over 100 years were levied against Mexicans a few years ago for literally firebombing Black people to force them out of their neighborhoods. Literally pogrom tier shit from both of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:56:15 No.13128485 Report

Quoted By: >>13128491

>>13128479
The have altered the definition of Hispanic and or latino multiple times and have changed up the census and questions from roughly 1940 to 1980. California has always been around 30 to 40% white as you call it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:56:29 No.13128486 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128476
There’s a lot of whites who wouldn’t too as a lot more isolated folks are white. It’s probably fairly even desu.

>>13128477
Almost all Mormons are white. Besides that I agree. Hell, I think Hispanics are taking the place of blacks as prominent minority group, this might actually stabilize the country further Than kill us. Hispanic culture is and always has been a part of american culture due to the shared old west. Hispanics have strong family culture, commit way less crime, are much less sick and are overall much more organized, orderly, and not dangerous. I as a white American go to mexican areas a bit. They aren’t dangerous at all. The worst shit you’ll see is a dude working on their car in the open. There’s an article that came out recently that stated that two parent families are rising again here (I’ll have to find it). I garuntee you it’s the growing hispanic population doing that or influencing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:56:33 No.13128487 Report

Quoted By: >>13128488 >>13128492 >>13128498

>>13128480
yeah I met a half white half Mexican guy before and he just looked like a Southern European dude. I mean at that point he's probably like 80% european. The thing is whites are around 30% of California and Texas (where most hispanics are) so there isn't enough to bleach the rest of the population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 23:59:13 No.13128488 Report

Quoted By: >>13128492 >>13128494 >>13128505

>>13128487
to add though I don't see why Americans complain about latinos so much there's a small community of Mexicans and Guatemalans in London who I play football with sometimes. Great, friendly people overall. The only downside about them is that they're very obese (but so are white americans anyway kek).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:01:39 No.13128489 Report

Quoted By: >>13128495

>>13128484
This is unironically how european groups assimilated to greater America, mutual hatred of blacks. It’s why SJWs and other contrarians to american system and culture are black worshippers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:02:13 No.13128490 Report

Quoted By: >>13128501

>>13128484
>Hispanics
>Gangs

You realize its all just gang violence doing that right? Do you really think all hispanics are gangbangers?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:02:49 No.13128491 Report

Quoted By: >>13128493

>>13128485
>California has always been around 30 to 40% white as you call it.

Not that low, unless you're someone who doesn't count Irish or Italians as White but yeah it is correct that California was never a 90% White state like poltards for some reason like to claim. Realistically California has only ever been 65%-70% White at it's max. California was at it's whitest between the 1960s and 1970s. Before the 1880s it was majority Mexican. From 1880 to 1900 it was about half and half with an Asian minority. Then from 1900 to world war 2 it was 2/3rds White, 1/3rd Hispanic but in world war two and after there was a gigantic boom in people moving from back east to work in LA as the city grew and we saw a swelling to about 70% White until about 1970. Now the massive White population boom to California has leveled off everything is reverting to how it was before WW2.

t. gen 16 Californio

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:02:58 No.13128492 Report

Quoted By: >>13128496 >>13128505 >>13128511

>>13128487
>>13128488
to add one last thing birth rates in Latin America have collapsed. Only Haiti has a considerable birth rate right now. Americans should honestly work to close their borders though because now that immigration from Europe, Latin America and most of Asia is not possible they are gonna start importing africans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:04:34 No.13128493 Report

Quoted By: >>13128510

>>13128491
>t. gen 16 Californio
damn that's crazy what do you look like are you white passing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:05:02 No.13128494 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128488
Americans will be saying grace in 20 years that we got culturally very similar latinos and Hispanics. We used to treat the Irish with contempt too. Don’t listen to pol, lot of Americans even the right quite like Mexicans now. Texas and California probably won’t be bleached but The rest of the country will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:07:20 No.13128495 Report

Quoted By: >>13128497

>>13128489
This sounds like poltard cope

https://youtu.be/y2cFkVfVf2Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:07:23 No.13128496 Report

Quoted By: >>13128500

>>13128492
Americans are killing the switch at the right time. The US imports in waves and this wave is over. As for literal Africans, the ones that do make it here also hate black Americans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:08:33 No.13128497 Report

Quoted By: >>13128499

>>13128495
Hispanics literally squeezed blacks out of Compton

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:09:28 No.13128498 Report

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>>13128487
Mexican genetics are already weird. The average Mexican is close to half Indigenous and half European and if they mix with a White person their offspring is going to end up 3/4ths European and likely end up just looking like a European with some Amerindian facial features and maybe darker skin. It's pretty normal. My family are close to 50/50 mestizos but we still sometimes get weird genetic combinations. My grandmother looks Mexican but is blonde and has grey-blue eyes even though she's only about half White. My cousins are majority Amerindian but look like someone just painted a stereotypical native American person a slightly lighter shade and have green eyes. I'm close to 50/50 myself according to my sisters DNA test and ended up with slanty eyes, a big nose and extreme grug tier injun browline like an indian, but got Euro height and brown curly hair. I get pajeet tier brown in summer but if I stay in doors a lot during winter I look sickly and pale like a Euroid.

Pic related is the dude that created Duolingo, he's half Mayan, half German.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:10:15 No.13128499 Report

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>>13128497
Hispanics are literally squizing everyone out of LA, whats your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:10:59 No.13128500 Report

Quoted By: >>13128504 >>13128514

>>13128496
>Americans are killing the switch at the right time
what makes you say they are killing the switch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:12:13 No.13128501 Report

Quoted By: >>13128502

>>13128490
>You realize its all just gang violence doing that right? Do you really think all hispanics are gangbangers?

Most Hispanics don't act like that but the majority of Mexicans I know (I am a Chicano) don't like Black people even if just mildly. My direct family don't care but will still call shitty Black people how however we constantly argue with family at Christmas who go on drunk tirades about Blacks and Middle Eastern people. From my experience most Mexican Americans think like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:13:34 No.13128502 Report

Quoted By: >>13128503

>>13128501
>Middle Eastern people
why don't they like Middle Eastern people Middle Eastern people in the usa are very successful overall no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:15:22 No.13128503 Report

Quoted By: >>13128507

>>13128502
Hes a larping faggot trying to align us hispanics with white people, in reality we keep to our own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:15:33 No.13128504 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128500
Harder immigration policy, increased tariffs, stricter border

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:18:10 No.13128505 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128446
>though
>>13128458
>though
>>13128475
>though
>>13128488
>though
>>13128492
>though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:18:32 No.13128506 Report

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>>13128348
I understand your reluctance to stay, but your leaving only hastens this. New England could be brown in a couple of decades so why not move to (brown) Europe while you're at it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:19:02 No.13128507 Report

Quoted By: >>13128508

>>13128503
>we keep to our own.
30% of hispanic men and women born in the USA marry whites.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:21:23 No.13128508 Report

Quoted By: >>13128509 >>13128515

>>13128507
Those are the whitewashed ones who lost all identity, hardly hispanic. There only solution is marry white.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:23:54 No.13128509 Report

Quoted By: >>13128512

>>13128508
> who lost all identity
yeah I mean what happened to the germans, Irish, Italians will also happen to the hispanics. inevitably you will mix with whites, asians, blacks living around you over the generations and just become standard Americans. I was just trying to show that you don't keep to yourselves but mix.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:25:59 No.13128510 Report

Quoted By: >>13128513

>>13128493
I just look like a normal mestizo. Californios are not like Neo-Mexicanos/Hispanos in Arizona who are often unmixed Spaniards. We are Spanish mixed with the Indigenous locals like most Mexicans were. I think we just tended go be wealthier than the rest of Mexico because it was way easier to obtain land here and it was so sparse, the caste system wasn't really enforced well during the Spanish era so you had mestizos and sometimes even Indios who held profitable land. Only "racial" difference is a lot of Californios get their European genetics from Basques while I think most Spanish ancestry in the Americas is from Galicia or the rest of Castilian speaking Spain. Californios sometimes have an Anglo ancestor or two way back because for a time in the 1700s to early 1800s Anglos were settling in Alta California in very small numbers and intermixing with the Mexican Californios. We're only consider a separate group these days really because we sided with the US during the Mexican American war because the Mexican government were treating us like shit and trying to get us to pay extremely high taxes to quite literally cover the personal debts of corrupt Mexican politicians.

The only cultural difference we have compared to other Mexicans is our the native component of our background comes from Calfornia natives who were boat people and pretty distinct from mainland Mexican natives. Taller too. Our Spanish was isolated so it's a little more archaic and closer to old Spanish. We still differentiate between the /b/ and /v/ sounds, have a rhotic /r/, used to have an /sh/ sound for the letter x and speak with voseo. Also we have some Tongva words for a lot of nouns like atsaranga instead of arbusto, varongurrat instead of valle, xarocuet instead of aguila etc. Californio Spanish is virtually dead though. Everyone just speaks Mexican Spanish now.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:28:03 No.13128511 Report

Quoted By: >>13128518

>>13128492
African migrants tend to be very traditional here and are usually business owners and better off than the average American. I lived in an upper middle class area and went to school with some Nigerians and a Ethiopian dude. Their parents would flat out not let them hang out with Black Americans or listen to rap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:29:40 No.13128512 Report

Quoted By: >>13128518

>>13128509
We used to have our own barrios, this alowed us to keep and develop our own culutre. But things are changing, back then race mixing was less common and we no longer have our own neighborhoods, the chicano identity is being lost.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:34:13 No.13128513 Report

Quoted By: >>13128522

>>13128510
damn that very interesting. Given that there's so few of you (1% of California) do you guys keep among yourselves i.e marrying only other californios etc or do you mix with the wider world quite a bit. do you guys live in a certain area? I know there's like a distinct Armenian, Korean, Vietnamese neighbourhoods in California. do you guys have something like that? apologise for the many questions there isn't much information about you guys online beyond basic stuff.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:34:14 No.13128514 Report

Quoted By: >>13128519

>>13128500
Our leftist vice president literally told people to stop migrating here a few weeks ago kek. We got enough university educated Asian migrants and enough skilled labor and tradies from Mexico and Guatemala and all that's left is the absolute unskilled labor and refugees from further south in Central America, the middle east and Africa so they're pretty openly just saying "lol sorry immigration machine broke" not taking anyone for a while. They're not even hiding it.

If we need more labor I suspect will start importing semi-skilled South East Asians like Flips, Thais and Viets in droves or maybe South Americans and more pajeets. We're an openly hypocritical country. I legitimately think the US is too racist (even non Whites) to allow mass migration of Africans and Middle Eastern people, especially non-skilled ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:35:51 No.13128515 Report

Quoted By: >>13128516

>>13128508
>Those are the whitewashed ones who lost all identity, hardly hispanic. There only solution is marry white.

Hispanic is really just a socio-linguistic classification, it's not a real race. Some of my family are full blooded Japanese but are considered Latino because they lived in Mexico for 3 generations, can't speak Japanese and act like Mexican people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:37:34 No.13128516 Report

Quoted By: >>13128521

>>13128515
Yes i know is more of socio-cultural thing but we werent part of white(anglo) society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:38:09 No.13128517 Report

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>>13128351
So you're a socialist, but of a nationalist variety.
filthy anti-semite

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:38:14 No.13128518 Report

Quoted By: >>13128521

>>13128512
ah thanks bro you guessed my question lol

>>13128511
I think the issue with African migrants is that inevitably their kids will identify with the black part of america. the American identity was once protestant Northern European but it expanded to include Southern Europeans and Eastern Europeans and I think it'll soon include hispanics successfully as well. But I don't see how africans can ever be made to feel fully American without the asterix. They will always see the founders and origins of america as antithetical to their own identity and self. How can any black or African American look up to Washington when Washington saw him/her as a subhuman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:41:22 No.13128519 Report

Quoted By: >>13128520 >>13128523

>>13128514
you should check the stats immigration from latin countries is down but Asia is up especially with Indians/pakis/bangladeshi as is African migration. US birth rate fell to record lows this year. I don't think you should underestimate the lobbying power of USA corporations combined with the absolute devastation that will befall Africa in the coming decades which will make for incredible propaganda.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:42:36 No.13128520 Report

Quoted By: >>13128525

>>13128519
Corporate power here is becoming increasingly loathed and the system actually doesn’t really want them either. Africa is fucked.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 00:44:22 No.13128521 Report

Quoted By: >>13128526

>>13128516
And this is why, back then they were pretty racist towards us latinos even though we technically arent a race. They did same shit to italians going as far as lyching them, not sure why americans were like this.

>>13128518
Interesting read

Two forces served to incubate street gangs of Mexican origin in Los Angeles and in other Western cities: physical and cultural marginalization. The barrios in which the earliest and most firmly established gangs developed were well-demarcated settlements of Mexican-Americans and immigrants. They were located in geographically isolated areas that other settlers and developers had bypassed as less appropriate for habitation, and were further isolated by cultural, racial, and socioeconomic barriers enforced by ingrained prejudices of the Anglo-American community. This rendered the barrios more impervious to outside influences.

Immigrants were culturally marginalized between their society of origin and the dominant American culture to which they had migrated. Cholo youth, the poorest of the poor marginalized immigrants, could not fully assimilate into Anglo culture or develop a unique identity that might incorporate both Anglo and Latino culture, and so created a subculture. Being a cholo allowed such youth to assert their own Latino identity, take pride in it, and deny “being enbacheado (Anglicized)”. In other words, these street youth shaped their own cholo (a derivative of the Spanish solo, meaning “alone”) subculture. Gangs were formed from youths who were culturally and socially alienated and who willingly gravitated to barrio hangouts.

https://milagro.org/chicano-gang-history-and-culture/

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:00:18 No.13128522 Report

Quoted By: >>13128524 >>13128531

>>13128513
I don't even think we're a full 1% of California by next decade kek. We're only 1.25% now. Some of the present Mexican-American neighborhoods in Los Angeles were originally areas inhabited by Californios going back to the 1800s. Santa Monica, San Gabriel valley, Pasadena and North East Los Angeles (areas called Eagle Rock and Highland park) had sizeable Califonio communities but pretty much all of them were taken over by subsequent Mexican waves of migration. The San Gabriel valley area and coastal parts of California all the way from Ventura county up to Santa Cruz and a few inland areas like Napa had a lot of us too. We're actually not that uncommon at all all, it's just that more recent Mexican migrants outnumber us like 20 to 1. I know other people who are Californios with family going back to when this was still Mexico/Spain. It's just that since we were the original Hispanics here others simply moved to where we were and outnumbered us.

Californios and really Mexican Americans in general in California self segregated until around the World War 2 era. We still interacted and worked with Anglos and everything but mostly had our own communities and didn't marry them often. We did intermix with Catholic whites though. Most commonly Italians and Irish some Poles and German Catholics too, but most Germans out west were protestants and there aren't many Poles. Way back in the 1800s we segregated almost as a classist thingbut then Anglos caught up and surpassed us by the 1880s and then we pretty muc just stayed separate due to religion. My grandparents tell me there actually wasn't that much animosity between the Californios and Whites because both had their own parallel symbiotic communities until the 1930s. Then Whites from eastern states started flowing in and brought all their weird racial shit with them. That's when you started actually seeing fights. My great grandmother unironically referred to them as Oakies and "white niggers".

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:03:11 No.13128523 Report

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>>13128519
I should have clarified that we're still taking in educated people but we basically turned off the possibility for unskilled migrants coming in. That's what I meant. I think Pajeets actually are our largest migrant group now. I'm okay with that. They get along with Mexicans really well I've noticed too kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:04:20 No.13128524 Report

Quoted By: >>13128529

>>13128522
>Then Whites from eastern states started flowing in and brought all their weird racial shit with them. That's when you started actually seeing fights.

And why was Texas different? Southerners?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:08:31 No.13128525 Report

Quoted By: >>13128535

>>13128520
>Corporate power here is becoming increasingly loathed and the system actually doesn’t really want them either. Africa is fucked.

This. Everyone getting more money in government benefits than their normal paychecks really made people realize how hard companies fuck them over. I was at Ralphs the other day and noticed they're offering $20 per hour now as well as tuition reimbursement and fucking next day pay. Corporations will need to keep doing shit like that or risk failing now. I actually declined a $20 per hour job with a big car company because I can make $27 just delivering food on my own schedule and the interviewing guy didn't even blame me. He said their corporate needs to start authorizing funding for better wages because people are realizing they can command higher pay now. He said even some of the wetbacks were declining it because they could make more driving for fucking Uber or doing manual labor now. Truly wild times. I feel like over the next few years the market will be heavily tilted in favor of labor. Say what you want about Biden, but it does seem like he is maneuvering to capitalize on this for mass approval and will likely back these trends and halting migration with help it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:13:38 No.13128526 Report

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>>13128521
The Cholo identity in California actually goes back even further. The militias that fought during the Mexican American war called themselves Cholos too. These were the troops under either Sepulveda or Pio Pico I forget which.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:14:20 No.13128527 Report

Quoted By: >>13128530

>>13128348
move to the pacific northwest
new england is full of kikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:17:09 No.13128528 Report

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>>13128357
weird considering it was Reagan that did that

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:24:37 No.13128529 Report

Quoted By: >>13128537

>>13128524
I couldn't tell you. I only know from what my family has told me. My great grandfather actually got attacked during the zoot suit riots. He was an officer in the army air corps (the air force wasn't a separate branch back then) by a few White teenage infantry men from Kansas. He wasn't in uniform and was walking around with my great grandma downtown and they thought my great grandmother was White (she isn't, she's just always died her hair) so took it as a Mexican guy with a White women and flipped out. One of them clocked him over the back of the head with a fucking toolbox and then they beat the shit out of him while he was down and probably would have killed him but some random guy walking by pulled a gun on them and the cops ended up arresting them after he told them he was an officer. He was able to stab one of them pretty bad back. I don't know what happened to all of them but the guy that hit him in the head got kicked out of the army and went to prison. I think the others got off. They likely only were penalized because he was also in the army and outranked them.

For those that don't know, the zoot suit riots occurred because a lot of freshly drafted soldiers from back east were staged in California before deploying to combat and had never seen Mexicans. It started because Mexicans were wearing ornate suits and you were supposed to conserve clothe for the war effort. My grandpa said most zoot suiters actually just got their suits imported from Mexico to get around this as Mexico had no such conservation laws during WWII, but basically hicks used it as justification to attack Mexicans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:25:38 No.13128530 Report

Quoted By: >>13128532

>>13128527
The pacific northwest is full of Mexicans too.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:27:11 No.13128531 Report

Quoted By: >>13128533 >>13128534

>>13128522
>Then Whites from eastern states started flowing in and brought all their weird racial shit with them. That's when you started actually seeing fights. My great grandmother unironically referred to them as Oakies and "white niggers".
That's an amusing thought.

Do you have any family stories from the "wild west" period? Or is that too far back?

In some western movie I saw once, there were cowboys interacting with Californios/Tejanos families rather respectfully. Before that, I had always perceived westerns as a very white genre. It always made me curious about relations of those times (even if westerns are not really historically accurate).

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:30:42 No.13128532 Report

Quoted By: >>13128686

>>13128530
Almost every state is going to be full of Mexicans within a couple of decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:34:18 No.13128533 Report

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>>13128531
>Do you have any family stories from the "wild west" period? Or is that too far back?

Not him but my great grandpa worked for the southern pacific railroad in sanderson texas, when he was young he saw pancho villa on a horse and waved at him. Apparently the border region and sanderson was a hotspot for bandits and such.

https://pacweb.alamo.edu/InteractiveHistory/projects/rhines/StudentProjects/1999/Sanderson/SANDERSO.html

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:36:34 No.13128534 Report

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>>13128531
>Do you have any family stories from the "wild west" period? Or is that too far back?

Not many. All my family from that era were dead by the time I could talk. My great great grandmother was still alive when I was born but I don't remember ever talking to her I think I was like 1 or 2 when she died. My great grandfather did tell me about his grandfather telling him about getting into a shootout with some Irish guys literally over a liquor dispute way back when and his sister killed a man when she was a teenager who was trying to steal her horse. His dad, my great great grandfather used to wear riding boots and a gun on him while walking around Los Angeles as late as the 1920s like it was the old west, and there were still horse drawn carriages intermixed with cars and trolleys back then too. He say a Chinese guy get hanged as a little kid too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:48:48 No.13128535 Report

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>>13128525
BUT MUH INFLATION MUH a SMALL BUSINESSES!!!

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:54:42 No.13128536 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128427
This is a lie. the parts of new spain that would later become US territory was incredibly depopulated by savages' raiding parties, mostly the comanches. buy the time of the purchase of guadalupe hidalago only some 40000 people (not savages) lived there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jul 2021 01:55:10 No.13128537 Report

Quoted By: >>13128547 >>13128564

>>13128529
I thought zoot suiters were Italians as well? Really enjoyed your stories tho m8

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Anonymous ID:MQLm2ZQr Thu 15 Jul 2021 02:00:20 No.13128547 Report

Quoted By:

>>13128537
There were italians there to yes, in the zoot suit riots there were mostly hispanics.

t.different anon

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Anonymous ID:qAnaZizg Thu 15 Jul 2021 02:10:11 No.13128564 Report

Quoted By: >>13128571

>>13128537
I think there were zoot suiters of any ethnicities, but in Los Angeles I think most of them were Hispanic. The zoot suits were really just an excuse for some oakie trash to attack them anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MQLm2ZQr Thu 15 Jul 2021 02:18:06 No.13128571 Report

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>>13128564
I am from texas and im not sure if my great grandpa was a suit zooter, he was born in 1919 and dressed really sharp. I got a picture might post it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:e6mcAS25 Thu 15 Jul 2021 03:28:29 No.13128686 Report

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>>13128532
They won’t, what we see now is what we’re gonna keep

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Anonymous ID:MiW9HJxt Thu 15 Jul 2021 05:02:24 No.13128854 Report

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>>13128379
I moved to Alaska, from California for school.
Cheaper than pretty much any school that is not a CC. Also if your from California you also apply for the WUEY grant which adjusts your tuition rate to almost instate tuition in any from the Pacific coast to Rocky Mountains and Alaska and Hawaii.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MiW9HJxt Thu 15 Jul 2021 05:07:16 No.13128870 Report

Quoted By: >>13128878

>>13128382
>>13128381
Both him and Newson ran the state into the ground. Sure you can blame Reagan for the amnesty bill, but it was really unknown at the time how that would impact the demographics.

Under Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom we have had some of the highest taxes at a state level in our history, small businesses are dying from being unable to compete with the big mega corps due to unfair taxes and regulations that give them preferential treatment, fuel taxes and high minimum wage make everything really expensive compared to the rest of the nation to the point where a dollar is worth 0.70 for every unit in nearly every other state. Property taxes and property values force middle class residents to cram into tiny apartments and homes or move far away in the sprawling suburbs and country sides.

Also Newsoms horrible handling of the corona virus (denying threat early on, and having some of the most brutal lockdowns and mask laws in the nation) also destroyed the states economy far worse than the rest of the nation, only Michigan and New York come close to loss in quality of life and domestic product.

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Anonymous ID:MiW9HJxt Thu 15 Jul 2021 05:11:38 No.13128878 Report

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>>13128870
Also I would like to add, from what I see from California’s own VOCA polling service, most democrats seem to only like Newsom because he is not a republican and “handled the pandemic well” because I guess he and Mayor Garcetti are really good at public speaking on CNN. Nevermind their ability to work for a decent wage, buy a home, and raise a family. Democrats only care about helping their party win, even at their own expense. Fuck all of them.

Anonymous

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Bump

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