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Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:04:46 No.1313241 View View Reply Original Report

>tfw the electoral college still exists
Tell me, Euros. What does it feel like to live in an actual democracy?
I dream of a day when the US gets rid of the electoral college and switches to a parliamentary system. Maybe with a voting system similar to France with the runoff election

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:06:33 No.1313252 Report

Quoted By: >>1313273

The electoral college is because full democracy is retarded. The founders recognized that tyranny of the majority is still tyranny and wanted to make sure that only responsible people could become president.

I only wish they could have done more to prevent the clusterfuck of US global influence from happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:09:05 No.1313273 Report

Quoted By: >>1313289

>>1313252
The founding fathers literally created the college because they thought Americans were too dumb to choose their own leader.

The electorates don't have to vote for the candidate their state votes for. The founding fathers wanted a middleman between the people and democracy

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:11:23 No.1313289 Report

Quoted By: >>1313293

>>1313273
Exactly, and most people ARE too dumb to choose their own leader. Nobody is invested in politics. All we want is more. Most people just want the government expand to get more freeshit at the expense of the taxpayer (and by extension the capitalist). Democracy is inherently anti-capitalistic due to the sad image of what government should be to most people.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:12:34 No.1313293 Report

Quoted By: >>1313307

>>1313289
>most people ARE too dumb to choose their own leader.
Rightautists everyone

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:14:45 No.1313307 Report

Quoted By: >>1313320

>>1313293
Oh, so you're a leftist? Good to know where you stand on the position, fucking disgraceful scum. You're just afraid of being responsible. You're the kind of person to give up your freedom out of pure greed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:16:34 No.1313320 Report

Quoted By: >>1313333

>>1313307
You're literally giving up your freedom because you think people are too dumb for democracy.
you're literal reactionary, fascist filth

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:18:31 No.1313333 Report

Quoted By: >>1313494

>>1313320
How fucking cute. You seem to think that tyranny is acceptable if it's democratic and not autocratic.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist, you fucking fool. Kill yourself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:E40eqzkC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:28:03 No.1313410 Report

Quoted By: >>1313506

>>1313241
Why the fuck is everyone complaining about the electoral college. It seems like ever since trump got elected everyone's bitching about how it's flawed. I think it should be pointed out to you people that Obama won the electoral college as well, which clearly shows it's not as broken as you think. I don't like trump either but we gotta realize the system isn't the one that's completely to blame, it's society.

And a true democracy would be horrible as it would turn into an oligarchy. More of what it already is today.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iPbyYev0 Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:36:23 No.1313460 Report

Quoted By:

The electoral college was part of the compromise reached by the continental congress.

They wanted to create a union of states, but the smaller states were worried that they'd get their interests overruled by the larger states. That's why they created 2 houses of congress. One awards delegates proportional to population, the other gives each state exactly 2 senators, meaning they all have the same representation.

The # of electoral college votes a state has is equivalent to the # of representatives it has in congress. This follows the same principle: it gives the smaller states a voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:41:58 No.1313494 Report

Quoted By: >>1313505

>>1313333
>I'm an anarcho-capitalist,
>""""""""anarcho"""""""""-capitalist

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:43:09 No.1313505 Report

Quoted By: >>1313513

>>1313494
Oh boy, we have a comedian over here.
>he somehow thinks that a complete lack of economic freedom is true anarchy
>he somehow thinks that seizing and redistributing assets can be done without a state

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:43:24 No.1313506 Report

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>>1313410
Obama also won the popular vote

Also the college damns us to a two-party system

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:44:42 No.1313513 Report

Quoted By: >>1313533

>>1313505
Anarcho capitalism isn't anarchy by any means. You can't have private property without a state. You can't have currency without a state

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:47:40 No.1313533 Report

Quoted By: >>1313544

>>1313513
>You can't have private property without a state.
What?
>what is the pre-mid 1800s western United States
>You can't have currency without a state.
Banks issue their own currency and if they're not dumbasses they back it on gold. Everything would be backed on gold, and for instance American Express Dollars exchange for a fixed amount of gold while Vanguard Dollars exchange for twice that amount. It's not that hard to comprehend, jackass. Think of Bitcoin. It's not legal tender but it's valuable.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:M9Myyqky Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:50:26 No.1313542 Report

Quoted By: >>1313550

>living in a neoliberal shithole
sucks to be a burger

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:50:52 No.1313544 Report

Quoted By: >>1313553

>>1313533
Your property is yours because the government acknowleges it. Without government the property is everyone's.

What you want is fuedalism

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Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:52:15 No.1313550 Report

Quoted By: >>1313562

>>1313542
Neo-liberalism is god-tier.
Alt-right autists sperg about it all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9lS/1Bx Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:52:23 No.1313551 Report

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Honestly it feels like nothing ever gets decided.

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Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:52:45 No.1313553 Report

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>>1313544
>what is homesteading
>what is purchase
>what is a renting contract
The deed isn't even in the hands of the government. I'm holding it with the bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ynQAiEk3 Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:53:13 No.1313555 Report

Quoted By: >>1313566 >>1313582

>dissolve the college
>elections now decided solely by the five big urban centers in America
>people outside of these centers in different regions with different needs aren't represented

Why you guys don't just use a system where you win states and whoever has the most states wins, with them all being worth the same I don't understand though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:M9Myyqky Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:54:18 No.1313562 Report

Quoted By: >>1313579

>>1313550
>justifying massive inequality and the stripping of liberty by quasi-governmental capitalists by perpetuating the meritocracy meme
no

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:54:51 No.1313566 Report

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>>1313555
Well, OP is an autistic libsoc that doesn't understand economics but to answer your question it would be super easy to win for the Republicans seeing as the Republican Party is really popular in bumblefuck.
We can't just weigh California on the same level as Idaho.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:56:44 No.1313579 Report

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>>1313562
>implying it's the capitalists doing the freedom stripping
Cronies need the government to bail out their shit. It's totally against the principle of a free market.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:57:24 No.1313582 Report

Quoted By: >>1313593

>>1313555
Why should the 10s of millions of people who live in California, Texas and New York be considered the same as the 1 million in Rhode Island?

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Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 16:58:52 No.1313593 Report

Quoted By: >>1313599

>>1313582
They shouldn't, but what you're advocating is just as bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:00:18 No.1313599 Report

Quoted By: >>1313616

>>1313593
How?
What's so bad about choosing a leader based on what the majority want? Just like every other demcracy does?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:02:25 No.1313616 Report

Quoted By: >>1313628

>>1313599
Because the majority of people are absolute morons who will vote themselves more freeshits at the taxpayer's expense.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:03:58 No.1313628 Report

Quoted By: >>1313637

>>1313616
They are the taxpayers

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Anonymous ID:i+30lIxU Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:05:36 No.1313637 Report

Quoted By: >>1313794

>>1313628
>Hillary Clinton won the popular vote
>these are the taxpayers
Mhm. Tell yourself that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:22:05 No.1313794 Report

Quoted By: >>1313972

>>1313637
>pepe
>>>/pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:2rZRXkHk Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:37:02 No.1313923 Report

Quoted By:

>>1313241
I'm glad it exists. Dumb bitch Hillary thought she could win without campaigning and stepping a foot in multiple states.
She pulled that shit in Wisconsin, and it went red for the first time in 30 years because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ILMkFb5A Wed 05 Jul 2017 17:40:54 No.1313972 Report

Quoted By: >>1314141

>>1313794
>get BTFO
>>>/pol/

go back

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uccDkTPC Wed 05 Jul 2017 18:01:09 No.1314141 Report

Quoted By:

>>1313972
Are you really this pathetic?

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