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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:30:13 No.13682809 View View Reply Original Report

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unvaccinated fags be like
>nooooo you can't prohibit me from going out and infecting other people it's my human rights and freedom
do people like that exist in your cunt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:34:48 No.13682810 Report

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70% of the country actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:40:32 No.13682811 Report

Quoted By: >>13682841

Covid vaccines don't prevent infection, they just reduce the severity of infection.
Restrictions on unvaccinated people are ostensibly to protect them, which sounds dumb to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:41:31 No.13682812 Report

Quoted By: >>13682882

>>13682809
The meme cough is not a danger to you unless you're over 60 or obese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:43:31 No.13682813 Report

Quoted By: >>13682814

>>13682809
If X, then Y: If vaccines work, then the unvaccinated cannot infect the vaccinated.
If you disagree with Y, then X cannot be true, in doing so you will be disagreeing with the notion that vaccines work and therefore agreeing with the notion that vaccines don't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:48:18 No.13682814 Report

Quoted By: >>13682821 >>13682837

>>13682813
>vaccines are 100% effective in all cases, always, no exceptions
And even disregarding this, if unvaccinated people keep infecting each other, you run the risk of mutations and strains that the vaccine is ineffective against.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:49:32 No.13682815 Report

Quoted By: >>13682820 >>13682822 >>13682825 >>13682859

>>13682809
I have elegant solution for the anti vaxxers:
>hospitals have right to reject covid-related-treatements for patients which arent vaccinated
There, i saved our civilisation. When the spike of infected will come, majority of them who needs hospital intervention will be not vaccinated and so hospital can simply let them die in their homes.

I saved tax money, kept hospitals operating and dumb people might die which again is plus of society as a whole.

And anti-vaxxers cannot say jack shit because
1. They believe covid doesnt exists so why would they fear it?
2. They say vaccine doesnt work so hospitals would get clogged either way and everybody would die anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:52:19 No.13682816 Report

Quoted By: >>13682817 >>13682844

ITT: jewish subordinates shill their meme "vaccine" to "convince" the non-cattle population to get infected with new world order nanobots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:54:38 No.13682817 Report

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>>13682816
Not as if there's anything we can do about it, if we didn't want to live in a shadow dictatorship then we should have surrendered to the Germans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:54:58 No.13682818 Report

Quoted By: >>13682823 >>13682828

>>13682809
>infecting other people
vaccines don't prevent you from transmitting the disease to other people, even scientists admit it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:56:09 No.13682819 Report

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>>13682809
Can't you still infect people if you're vaccinated tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:57:45 No.13682820 Report

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>>13682815
extremely based opinion
respect +++

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:58:20 No.13682821 Report

Quoted By: >>13682826 >>13682831 >>13682839 >>13682871

>>13682814
>if unvaccinated people keep infecting each other, you run the risk of mutations
You'd think this logic would be applied to other infectious diseases such as colds and flus but for some reason it is only applied to the one scapegoat used for extreme government overreach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:58:36 No.13682822 Report

Quoted By: >>13682835

>>13682815
as retarded as they are, anti vaxxers still pay taxes and have the right to healthcare
the doctor told me not to smoke and eat KFC everyday but even though I'm a retard and still do it, 50% of my salary every month goes to the state and I deserve to get treated if I get cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:58:41 No.13682823 Report

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>>13682818
>vaccines don't prevent you from transmitting the disease to other people, even scientists admit it
This is a misconception. Scientists don't say this, the point is that they have measured the vaccines effectiveness by looking at the number of hospital admissions (which very much has declined as vaccination rates go up). To the layman, it is obvious that if the transmission goes down, so does the number of hospital admissions. But since transmission is not the metric that has been used to evaluate the effectiveness of the vaccine, then scientists, for obvious reasons, don't make the claim when using scientific language.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:00:08 No.13682824 Report

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:00:23 No.13682825 Report

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>>13682815
99% of them will be fine.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:01:00 No.13682826 Report

Quoted By: >>13682829

>>13682821
>You'd think this logic would be applied to other infectious diseases such as colds and flus
I don't know about the UK but people get told ad nausseum to get the flu vaccine here every year, long before covid was a problem. And as far as I know, there aren't any vaccines against "colds" (because this is in fact a vast host of different viruses).

>it is only applied to the one scapegoat used for extreme government overreach.
Don't know how much of an overreach it really was, mandatory vaccinations have been common here since the 1800s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:02:06 No.13682827 Report

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>>13682809
literally me kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:02:19 No.13682828 Report

Quoted By: >>13682830

>>13682818
>vaccines don't prevent you from transmitting the disease to other people, even scientists admit it
Technically no vaccine does, but being vaccinated means in the event of catching it, your immune system is more effectively fighting off the virus and showing considerably less symptoms which in turn reduces your infectious period and overall contagiousness. This can stop it leap-frogging to the next person, vaccinated or otherwise and you've got what everyone calls herd immunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:02:40 No.13682829 Report

Quoted By: >>13682832

>>13682826
>I don't know about the UK but people get told ad nausseum to get the flu vaccine here every year
It was only last winter that they started pushing for the flu vaccine, prior to that it was virtually unheard of.
>mandatory vaccinations have been common here since the 1800s.
You're not going to lose your job or be denied access to outdoor events for not taking the polio vaccine, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:04:41 No.13682830 Report

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>>13682828
>showing considerably less symptoms which in turn reduces your infectious period and overall contagiousness.
If having less symptoms = less chance of spreading it, this would imply that asymptomatic people have a near zero chance of spreading the virus. As we all know, one of the biggest fears in the early stages was that a great number of people who had the virus were asymptomatic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:05:13 No.13682831 Report

Quoted By: >>13682834 >>13682846 >>13682871

>>13682821
>You'd think this logic would be applied to other infectious diseases such as colds and flus

The reason the flu is so hard to vaccinate against is simply because there are too many mutations which have already developed. Simply put, when you get a flu vaccination, you're getting what mutation is expected next flu season based off data gathered in the opposite hemisphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:05:37 No.13682832 Report

Quoted By: >>13682834

>>13682829
>It was only last winter that they started pushing for the flu vaccine, prior to that it was virtually unheard of.
Pretty strange. All companies with more than 50 employees offer the flu vaccine to their employees for free here, and it has been this way at least since I started working in 2007.

>You're not going to lose your job or be denied access to outdoor events for not taking the polio vaccine, for example.
In Norway, you'd be denied entry in to the country, and citizens would risk fines and even jail if you weren't inoculated against pox until 1974 (when pox was considered eradicated).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:05:54 No.13682833 Report

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>>13682809
Not. My. Problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:07:39 No.13682834 Report

Quoted By: >>13682836 >>13682846

>>13682831
>there are too many mutations which have already developed
And life still goes on. I wonder why the same response isn't used for an extremely similar disease.
>>13682832
Deriving morality from government actions is a grave mistake considering the numerous atrocities governments have committed since the very concept of governments began.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:09:16 No.13682835 Report

Quoted By: >>13682840

>>13682822
Sorry chud, there are vaccinated patients which have priority over anti-vaxxers chuds. See you in two weeks when hospital beds are free again! Until then wait at your home, here take these multivitamine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:10:21 No.13682836 Report

Quoted By: >>13682839

>>13682834
>Deriving morality from government actions [...]
I'm not weighing in on the morality here, I'm merely saying that those things you say are completely unheard of and unprecedented, are not unheard of at all. We also closed our borders for years after the spanish flu, there is literally nothing exceptional with how we handled COVID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:10:56 No.13682837 Report

Quoted By: >>13682845

>>13682814
Ska ja drämma till i tinningen din, fitta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:11:05 No.13682838 Report

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>>13682809
Reminder to never speak to anyone with experimental fagcine blood running through their veins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:11:29 No.13682839 Report

Quoted By: >>13682842 >>13682845

>>13682836
I'm not saying the actions are unprecedented, I'm saying that the logic quoted here >>13682821 isn't being applied equally at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:13:05 No.13682840 Report

Quoted By: >>13682851

>>13682835
I got 3 doses of the witcher potion inside me
just pointing out that there are no gray areas with free healthcare
it's either everyone gets it or nobody gets it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:13:35 No.13682841 Report

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>>13682811
>Covid vaccines don't prevent infection, they just reduce the severity of infection.
they do both, retard. reduce severity and chance of infection

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:13:38 No.13682842 Report

Quoted By: >>13682845

>>13682839
To add to this, if I were to be more cynical, I'd say that the reason is because most people aren't scared of the cold and flu, and therefore any actions taken against it would more widely seen as tyrannical than actions taken against a new and (previously) unknown disease.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:14:55 No.13682843 Report

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it's literally like that, my freedom doesn't end at your media-druggie induced hypochondria, get a better immune system or get a needle in your arm every couple of weeks if that helps

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:15:48 No.13682844 Report

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>>13682816
You are cattle. You're following a narrative with nothing to substantiate it because it aligns with your political party. Only thing is you're stupid enough to think you're smart and a free thinker when you're really just a mindless drone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:15:55 No.13682845 Report

Quoted By: >>13682850

>>13682837
Så modent

>>13682839
>>13682842
I'm not so sure, I remember that people were quite afraid of swine flu and plenty of people got vaccinated against that as well. This is also around the same time as companies started offering the seasonal flu vaccine to their employees.
But of course I may be a bit biased, both my parents worked as doctors until they retired, so I grew up on taking the flu vaccine every year anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:16:04 No.13682846 Report

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>>13682831
Somewhat yes, but asymptomatics were only 17% of all covid cases, and you can still give it to other people via physical transmission such as touching a surface that someone with covid has and touching your face

.>>13682834
>And life still goes on. I wonder why the same response isn't used for an extremely similar disease.
Absolutely no idea, my guess would be that due to how long its been around, scientists just kinda presume the flu cant get much worse whereas covid is extremely recent and has a much larger potential to get worse I dont know honestly. I still dont think the vaxx should be forced on people regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:16:56 No.13682847 Report

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>>13682824
>if the vaccine is safe
>why are you afraid of the virus
Was this non-sequitur meant to be a gotcha?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:17:56 No.13682848 Report

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>going out and infecting other people
they've been very openly saying that vaccinated people still carry and infect others all the same and the vaccine is for stopping (You)rself from getting properly sick from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:18:42 No.13682849 Report

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yes
I'm one of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:19:30 No.13682850 Report

Quoted By: >>13682852 >>13682853

>>13682845
>I remember that people were quite afraid of swine flu and plenty of people got vaccinated against that as well
I remember it as well, I was fairly young when it broke out but I don't recall any panic over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:19:50 No.13682851 Report

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>>13682840
Do you know about "waiting lines" for organ donors? Same principle. Alcoholic who needs new liver? Smoker who needs new lungs? Doctors legit let these people slowly die while younger patients who dont smoke or drink get these organs asap.

I dont see reason why we cant do the same with anti vaxxers. Literally the same principle: you didnt do the most for your health, why do you expect doctors to bust their asses for you when they are needed elsewhere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:21:22 No.13682852 Report

Quoted By: >>13682853

>>13682850
I was 24, and I remember that mostly older adults were concerned, but some my age as well. My friend who was pregnant at the time was quite concerned for her baby. The Norwegian government bought in way too many vaccine doses, and ended up throwing most away. Much like they did with the Covid-vaccines as well, tbqh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:23:54 No.13682853 Report

Quoted By: >>13682855 >>13682856

>>13682852
>>13682850
Also, there was a bit of a scandal some years after that because that vaccine was also untested, and a bunch of young adults ended up with narcolepsy from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:26:24 No.13682854 Report

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>0000000.1% chance of anyone under 20 dying to corona
meme virus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:26:59 No.13682855 Report

Quoted By: >>13682858

>>13682853
>there was a bit of a scandal some years after that because that vaccine was also untested
It's good to see things improving now that the experimental stage is taking place during mass rollouts instead of skipping it entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:30:03 No.13682856 Report

Quoted By: >>13682860

>>13682853
Theres going to be a bigger scandal when i crush your whore skull and rape your corpse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:30:09 No.13682857 Report

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My rabbi told me not to take it, why shouldn't I trust my rabbi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:30:16 No.13682858 Report

Quoted By: >>13682861 >>13682863

>>13682855
Well, I think that's a bit simplified since the mRNA vaccines are basically just modified SARS vaccines that has been around since the mid 2000s. Also, didn't they do clinical trials with around 20k people before doing a larger scale trial in Israel with 2M people (or something to that effect)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:30:56 No.13682859 Report

Quoted By: >>13682864

>>13682815
im not taking the vaccine and i agree with this. however this shouldnt be limited to anti vaxxers but also towards fat people and smokers, in all 3 groups it was their own choice to land on the ICU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:31:21 No.13682860 Report

Quoted By: >>13682866 >>13682867

>>13682856
>getting emotionally invested in 4chan
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:32:18 No.13682861 Report

Quoted By: >>13682866

>>13682858
>Uhhmm... if i make my statements into questions will any silly boys think i know what i am talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:32:36 No.13682862 Report

Quoted By: >>13682869

These days society is so polarized and set up against each other that the more relevant question for the people would be: WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:32:53 No.13682863 Report

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>>13682858
The yankees have been giving out doses under emergency use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:33:06 No.13682864 Report

Quoted By: >>13683109

>>13682859
>however this shouldnt be limited to anti vaxxers but also towards fat people and smokers
To be fair, fat people and smokers are already down prioritized in the case of organ receivers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:33:45 No.13682865 Report

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>>13682809
Yes, they do, but fortunately they're so few, they can't even be loud like in Australia, Germany or USA

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:34:13 No.13682866 Report

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>>13682861
>>13682860
Your butthurt only fuels me, newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:34:15 No.13682867 Report

Quoted By: >>13682868

>>13682860
>like... why do you even care?! ugh... cringe... i wish a was sucking cocks right now...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:35:52 No.13682868 Report

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>>13682867
Mmm, delicious tears

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:38:23 No.13682869 Report

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>>13682862
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:42:01 No.13682870 Report

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This federal cum bucket read a list of catchphrases and started whoring state view points online
You just have to kill these people where ever you find them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:44:57 No.13682871 Report

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>>13682821

Yeah with all the regulations I had to be stuck in a plane next to this sick bitch and her kid who coughed for 14 hours with no mask. Consider how it spreads on a plane, to everyone's eyes, everyone when they take the mask off to eat. We all gotta take a test but they let them on being obviously sick. Do they really care about safety? No. We have to pay for testing, they keeo creating vaccines and requiring them. I never once got a damn flu shot in my life, why is this suddenly required?

>>13682831

Flu shots were never required.
I never got a shot.
And I never got the flu.
I got covid really early and got antibodies and never got sick again.
So why the fuck would I need shots?

I also hate this being turned into a vaccine thing. I have vaccines for all the other shit required in society, I am against flu shots because they are pointless. It serves no purpose, but medical companies profit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:45:03 No.13682872 Report

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>he took the jab

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:49:00 No.13682873 Report

Quoted By: >>13682874

I'm vaccinated but spread dissinfo because I want more people to die so I get cheaper housing

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:49:29 No.13682874 Report

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>>13682873
Holy based

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VChjDBPR Wed 27 Oct 2021 13:26:43 No.13682882 Report

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>>13682812
This

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rfE29EK2 Wed 27 Oct 2021 14:35:49 No.13683109 Report

Quoted By: >>13683830

>>13682864
yep, and we should turn it up a notch. it would lower pollution, housing costs and traffic if we just let fatties and smokers take their own responsibility

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Anonymous ID:mr40MXZN Wed 27 Oct 2021 17:00:20 No.13683830 Report

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>>13683109
I guess I should get in as much pollution as I can before I die! YOLO!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/KcUti71 Wed 27 Oct 2021 17:01:30 No.13683835 Report

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Look

Basically I’m just not gonna take it (the vaccine!!)

I know.... UGH I know..... I’m sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s just that I’m not gonna take it is all

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

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