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White Tantra, NoNut, and the Withholding of the Orgasm

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 20:48:54 No.13739628 View View Reply Original Report

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>the orgasm is the same energy behind the creation of the universe
>it is incredibly potent and also incredible holy
>it should only be in the name of procreation
>all other sexual activity should be limited to edging whereby the one-shot orgasm is transmuted via breathing exercises into an extended, blissful full body state shared with your partner

What does /pol/ think about this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 20:52:54 No.13739629 Report

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>>346094661
see also:

>kegel exercises

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 20:55:18 No.13739630 Report

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Satanism. Shiva was Nimrod.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 20:56:37 No.13739631 Report

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>>13739628
It's true. Hermetists, freemasons, Rosicrucians, etc, believe this as well. It basically says the same in the Bible too, but most modern day Christians don't seem to understand the Bible very much.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 20:56:47 No.13739632 Report

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https://glorian.org/books/the-narrow-way/white-tantra

>This is a system that transmutes the sexual energy into Ojas (Christic force). The couple must restrain the sexual impulse and avoid the ejaculation of the semen.

“The coitus interruptus,” the restrained sexual impulse, makes the sexual energy of the Third Logos to inwardly and upwardly return throughout the canals of Ida and Pingala.

Maithuna originates within the coccyx, close to the Triveni of the microcosmic human being, an extraordinary contact between the solar and lunar atoms of the seminal system.

The advent of the fire is the outcome of the contact between the solar and lunar atoms of the seminal system.

The gnostic tantric sadhana is very simple. During the tantric act, man and woman practice in the normal or ordinary sexual position; what is important is to withdraw from the sexual act before the spasm in order to avoid the ejaculation of their semen.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 20:58:56 No.13739633 Report

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>>13739632
>>13739631

TLDR: it activates your third eye and crown unlocks the astral, which in turn allows you to experience the unlimited astral union with your partner as well

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:04:54 No.13739634 Report

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>>13739633
>>13739632
>>13739631

this is the esoteric reason behind nofap.
as we know, porn is meant to keep you dull and driven by your base root chakra.

>Jesus the great Kabir said:

>“The disciple must not allow himself to fall, because the disciple who consents in falling, must fight very hard afterwards in order to recuperate what he has lost.”
>The Maithuna, sexual yoga, gnostic tantra, can only be practiced between a man and a woman who are legitimately constituted as spouses.

>White tantra forbids its male adepts and affiliates to practice Maithuna with many women. White tantra forbids the gnostic sisters to practice Maithuna with different men. They must only practice sexual magic with their own spouse.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:15:29 No.13739635 Report

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>>13739630
Shiva may have a lot in common with Nimrod/Osiris/Dionysus, but this is the opposite of satanism:

Satan, the serpent, is the evolving force - the vitality of matter, the drive for change, novelty, and procreation. Pretty much every time you see a snake in world mythology (from Eden to Queztacoatl to the Uraeus to the kundalini), we're talking about this force. It's inside of you, because you are made of matter.

The counterpoint to this is the divine spark, the eternal atman, the holy spirit, the connection to source, the breath of life, whatever you wanna call it - pure being, pure consciousness. You have an eternal soul and what you sow in this world, you reap in the next. We are all connected via this source.

A primary task of man and woman in this realm of duality is to reign in their serpent, become the master of it (and importantly - not suppress it entirely) to achieve balance, harmony, and find love. Jesus himself likened himself to Moses’ snake on a rod (nehushtan) and said “Be ye wise as serpents and harmless as doves.”

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:19:27 No.13739636 Report

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>>13739628
>all other sexual activity should be limited to edging whereby the one-shot orgasm is transmuted via breathing exercises into an extended, blissful full body state shared with your partner
I went with this and it just became my rationalization for looking at porn for hours because I thought I should practice it first by myself. I can do it. I learned how to put the sexual energy up into my third eye or in my crown chakra. But it just gave way to looking at porn. So I'm keeping away from it, doing no fap and mediation.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:20:23 No.13739637 Report

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>>13739635

>Shiva represents eternal consciousness, Being, Purusha
>Kali represents shakti, Prakriti, Becoming, Nature

In this picture, the forces are out of balance, Kali (the Becoming, serpent, shakti) is trampling on her counterpart, Shiva (Being, consciousness). Sometimes the shakti serpent energy overpowers conscioussness.

This is the higher aspects of mind and spirit (the connection to source, i.e. holy spirit, the eternal atman) vs. the vitality of matter (the serpent, kundalini, dragon, i.e. the magnetic base that attempts to climb it’s way back to source through the novelty generation)

In other words: the steadfast sustaining life force (Being) vs. the chaotic evolutionary force (Becoming)

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:24:25 No.13739638 Report

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>>13739637
Go on

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:27:04 No.13739639 Report

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>>13739638
Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's). Also, "Bart's Fart & Shart" doesn't make any sense because the store wasn't called "Feed & Sheed" under Sneed's ownership so stop posting it.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:27:45 No.13739640 Report

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This is all true. I've been doing this for 5 years.
I sometimes shill glorian.org on /pol/ too.

OP is truthful and heterosexual. Or suprasexual I should say.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:29:23 No.13739641 Report

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>>13739638
>>13739637

This dialectic was also at the root of ancient Egyptian metaphysics:

Geb, the father of snakes on the bottom, represents the Becoming force. Nut, the sky mother, represents the source of the divine spark of conscioussness, pure Being. Both forces are in balance in this picture.

This is the reason the Egyptian obelisks are oriented towards the tail of the dragon/serpent, the once-pole star, Thuban.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuban

This is the ophidian force thrusting its way back to the firmament, back to the source; vital matter piercing the veil of eternal consciousness.

See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:34:27 No.13739642 Report

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>>13739641
>>13739640

Based.

We're basically describing the Tao: being balance with be"cumming"

>>13739641
>>13739640

Love is the Tao, the universe, in balance. It's the most beautiful pattern:

Being balanced with Becoming; Spirit & Consciousness balanced with Nature & Matter; Prana (sustaining breath) balanced with Kundalini (flowing vitality); Yang balanced Yin.

Together, these two forces represent the Tao, the merged Shiva-Shakti (purusha-prakriti), balanced by the golden ratio in the heart center.

In the Samkhya school of Hinduism, this dualism is known as Purusha and Prakriti, Being and Becoming, Spirit and Material.

While it is a simplification, many cultures over the millennia have nonetheless attributed gender to these two forces: the Sustaining force is the male principle; while the dynamic Flowing force is female principle. This is seen in the Lingam as the active, feminine Shakti force flowing around the neutral phallus of Shiva, the snakes climbing the rod of the Hermetic caduceus and the Tibetan phurba, as well as the Ancient Egyptian Djed column (representing the Sustaining force of Osiris’ consciousness) paired with the Tyet (representing the Flowing feminine nature of Isis).

In Buddhism, this dynamic is represented symbolically as the Yab-Yum, the primordial union of wisdom and compassion.

In Kaballah, this is seen as the union of the masculine chokhmah and feminine Binah.

In Gnosticism, this is seen as the union of Sophia (Wisdom) and Christ (Compassion).

Your higher self resides in the realm of Plato's forms, the realm of spirit - you can visualize it with its eternal consort, just like each and every buddha.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:35:29 No.13739643 Report

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>>13739642

So the serpent is a clarifying force that assists one in discovering their dharma, it is the kundalini; matter as the "fuel" of the individuation process (in Jungian terms).

If it's not balanced with Being, it becomes a detriment. Our society has too much Becoming (yang) and not enough Being (Yin):

The (more feminine) right hemisphere is concerned with analogical, associative thinking. The march of time and causality is put on the back-burner. This is the realm of poetry, instantaneous connections and Yin. These process are guided by backward leaps through time.

The (masculine) left hemisphere is concerned with causality. These Yang processes are step-wise, sequential, and temporal, they involve language, logic, and narrative, and emphasize causation. These process are guided by movement forward in time.

>Yin is "being in the present," the mode cultivated by mindfulness meditation, and is the observational mode of consciousness. In this mode the fixed point of reference is a single omnipresent moment, with instantaneous change in this moment experienced. Past and future are not experienced, from the perspective of doing it is like the universe being continually destroyed and recreated in the present moment.

>Yang is the linguistic and narrative mode of consciousness where not one moment exists but an infinite number comprising the line of time, which is the fixed point of reference, with the moment being variable. It is the mode of thinking, remembering, planning, and anticipating that in our modern hyperactive society is much more familiar to us.

see also: process philosophy

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:36:37 No.13739644 Report

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Also, the orgasm is not admissible even if it's for procreation (assuming you're practicing white tantra). Fecundatiom can occur with no visible emission of semen. It only takes a handful of sperm cells to fecundate the egg, not the millions which are released during ejaculation.

This is the evolution from animal procreation to human procreation.

The mage never allows the semen to leave his body. This brings about some fantastic faculties of the occult senses, which are totally unknown to the common person of the world.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:41:22 No.13739645 Report

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>>13739644
Yes.

>spilling the cup of hermes

https://somananda.org/blog/starting-a-family-according-to-tantra/

>Although every species under the sun procreates in an instinctual process of reproductive activity,
family planning tantra - conscious conception
Tantra presents us with the possibility to create life consciously and to draw in a soul of a high caliber during the moment of conception.
human beings – blessed with reflexive consciousness and spiritual lucidity – can not only mate by choice, they can apply their consciousness to this process.

>Deciding to have a child: preparing to host a soul
>Conception: building a blueprint with positive intentions

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:41:29 No.13739646 Report

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>>13739633
also known as reentering the Garden.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:42:55 No.13739647 Report

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>>13739646
Of Eden.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:45:21 No.13739648 Report

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>>13739645
Be careful, that site teaches the orgasm - black tantra.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:46:54 No.13739649 Report

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>>13739648
everything in balance is my motto

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:48:42 No.13739650 Report

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>>13739630
You are a Nimrod

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:51:35 No.13739651 Report

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>>13739644
This is what "Immaculate conception" means. A child born without dirtying the soul by orgasm. Although for the record I do believe in Jesus' case he was born without any sex at all.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:52:45 No.13739652 Report

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>>13739649
That's true, but there is no middle ground when it comes to chastity: you either always renounce and avoid the orgasm, or you're not practicing white tantra.

It's either black or white. This is symbolized by the checkered floor of the masonic temple. There are no grey squares.

But I agree that you can also learn a lot from black tantrists / black mages and their practices...just don't put em in practice

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:54:30 No.13739653 Report

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>>13739651
That's exactly it.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:58:16 No.13739654 Report

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>>13739644
Is this related to the idea of being born in sin? How else can one be born into this hell but by male orgasm?

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 21:58:25 No.13739655 Report

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>>13739645
>soul of a high caliber
So you practice an art that entraps that poor soul in this hellish realm just for your own pleasure? You're fucking sick.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:00:50 No.13739656 Report

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>>13739655

I don't practice anything, but yes, your parents are your demiurge, after all

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:03:59 No.13739657 Report

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:05:16 No.13739658 Report

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>>13739628
>What does /pol/ think about this?
I'M SO FUCKING HORNY

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:07:50 No.13739659 Report

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>>13739654
Yes, all of us are born of sin.
But we can liberate ourselves from the chains of this realm through a spiritual path of redemption, as shown by countless prophets and Masters throughout the ages.

Pero Hermano, México es la pátria de la Gnosis como no conoces al Maestro Samael... Dale amigo vamos para frente ayyy caramba

>>13739655
That's not how it works.
When the couple practices sexual magic without spilling the semen (without the orgasm), they're surrounded by a brilliant force of great voltage generated by their chastity, which attracts souls that vibrate on a similar level of purity.

If conception occurs, the baby will be a spiritually elevated soul, not an ordinary person.

Also, the souls themselves are choosing to come down to the physical realm, it's not the parents "trapping" them here.
They want a physical body because being born and experiencing the apocalypse first hand on a planet is a great source of knowledge for that soul.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:10:41 No.13739660 Report

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>>13739635
I am not matter, and I do not "have a soul." I am a soul who has matter.

There is no duality worth sustaining in perpetual destruction-creation. We must destroy feminine death-matter to the greatest extent feasible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:10:56 No.13739661 Report

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>>13739628
Edging can do weird things to the pipes. Best to nut once or twice a week to keep things moving or no nut at all.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:13:55 No.13739662 Report

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>>13739630
and you eventually die.

Shiva, not so much.

so there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:14:00 No.13739663 Report

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>>13739661
right, white tantra is pure spiritual love, edging would be considered more red tantra

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:19:48 No.13739664 Report

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>>13739661
If you couple so called "edging" with correct breathing, you get the most beautiful and loving sexual experience there is, and you don't need to ejaculate.

>t. married and I do it on a regular basis

Also, so called "post orgasm sadness" or whatever is completely eliminated, and you're left with a feeling of being full of spiritual force and vigour, and supreme love for your partner.
It's a really good experience, and does not create the so called "blue balls" pain.
You just feel good and relaxed.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:29:32 No.13739665 Report

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>>13739628
bump for ascension

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:35:50 No.13739666 Report

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>>13739628
>putting rules on Tantra
unwise

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:36:46 No.13739667 Report

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>>13739642
>>13739665
>>13739652
>>13739659

>which attracts souls that vibrate on a similar level of purity.

Your Higher Self is like the platonic form of yourself. It is like your "future", fully-evolved self residing at the end, or perhaps, the beginning of time.

Spiritual communities are talking about 5D consciousness. This is the same thing we're talking about here.

4D as experiencing a kind of "Overview Effect" of one's life: seeing and understanding how patterns repeat, and archetypes and symbols play out in your life, and then, of course, taking control of the ship. You are the master of your destiny, after all.

5D is getting a taste of the multiverse. Timelines, parallel universes, different planes/realms, pure imagination, really. And bliss.

You are a projection from the realm of spirit into the realm of illusory matter.

The recursive paradox of the whole situation is that it is you NOW that is empowered to define who exactly that perfect self IS and WILL BE

The One/All splits into Purusha and Prakriti so that it can experience itself evolving / becoming. We are "simulating" archetypal Forms that exist independently in Spirit.

Form exists at the limit where Becoming approaches infinity. Pure Being in archetypal spirit-space. Strive to become more like the perfect Forms, the Logoi, in your everyday life.

This density is a test as well as a diversion - the descent back into duality.

This Higher Self, in turn, has a life of its own and a "higher-higher self"; it lives, sleeps, dreams, just like you and I, only in a higher dimensional resolution.

The process of becoming is an infinite journey - like the concept of an asymptote in mathematics. Prakriti, Matter, Kundalini "fuels" the individuation process

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_forms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:37:10 No.13739668 Report

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>>13739628
Also bastardizing these things with words like "edging" completely dissociates you from what it's about
You aren't hovering an orgasm
You aren't trying to withhold orgasming either
You're trying to be present and arise a state with your partner or yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:38:54 No.13739669 Report

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If orgasm happens it happens
The point is you're not acting in a way to make it happen or treating it as some "better than" concept
When you do this you put preference on your experience. You are somewhere else in space and time. You are trying to get somewhere else.
You are not present with your partner or yourself.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:39:32 No.13739670 Report

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>>13739628
Great thread, share more wisdom please.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:40:45 No.13739671 Report

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>>13739669
I agree, you're describing it well

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:40:47 No.13739672 Report

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spiritual fags discussing spiritual faggotry

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:41:31 No.13739673 Report

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Tantra is not something that can be taught
Even method are not Tantra
You can only get dogma
Its beyond words. It's beyond rules.
Only women and children know, or when one assumes this *state*.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:42:18 No.13739674 Report

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>>13739628
Nay, sexual energy is insanely powerful. By releasing it and recapturing it with your chakra, it is possible to gain insane amounts of energy. How do you think the Egyptians managed to build the pyramids?

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:42:36 No.13739675 Report

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>>13739673
wtf does that even mean lol ? if you read the Kangyur none of this shit is present because its bs

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:43:55 No.13739676 Report

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>>13739636
You can still practice it alone. Arousal can just be the root of the energetic vitality and you can begin the process of enlightenment. There are too many traditions involving the divine twin/hieros gamos/higher self that seem to indicate that your spiritual alter, the part of you that's still 'up there' is united with your material self, and the great work is more about transforming yourself into your spiritual potential, one that's already achieved in the future/consummation of time.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:44:31 No.13739677 Report

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>>13739676
lolllllll wtf is that?

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:45:11 No.13739678 Report

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>>13739633
>>13739634
schizo shit lmao

I do no fap because porn is shite and I need to get back on track

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:46:14 No.13739679 Report

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>>13739676
very based. one could say a man's anima is his twin's higher self.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:46:40 No.13739680 Report

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>>13739678
stop starin at black women look too long and they cause a dopemine imbalance

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:47:16 No.13739681 Report

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>>13739659
The same Samael that sired Cain?
How is all this related to the eastern philosophies? Are they too supposedly related to the prediluvian civilizations?

JFK Jr is the antichrist

JFK Jr is the antichrist Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:47:19 No.13739682 Report

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>>13739628
The economic plan of the nwo occult bloodline elite for the coming system of the beast after the Great Reset is weak.

I would say their economics is their second biggest vulnerable weakness after the fragile technology they use.

There were silver based currency systems before. Believe it or not, these experienced greater shocks and depressions than the printed fiat money system.

UBI and nesara are utterly ridiculous, won't even dignify these 'ideas' by commenting on them.

t. Cambridge University economist

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:48:27 No.13739683 Report

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i dont think any1 here actually read any of Buddhas work at all, every1 is quoting some later fag taught by loin cloth niggers

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:48:41 No.13739684 Report

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>>13739678
midwit take

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:50:26 No.13739685 Report

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>>13739679
>>13739676
>>13739671

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebis

>After one has gone through the stages of putrefaction and purification, separating opposing qualities, those qualities are united once more in what is sometimes described as the divine hermaphrodite, a reconciliation of spirit and matter, a being of both male and female qualities as indicated by the male and female head within a single body
the Hermaphrodite. Greek myth iirc states originally man and woman were attached to another on the back, and eventually seperated which is why we search our whole life for our soulmate. Some even claim Adam was androgyn until Eve was taken out of him.

I don't have to tell you how how this concept has been perverted and corrupted.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:50:47 No.13739686 Report

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>>13739684
so you rather read an hour length of spiritual faggotry

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:51:02 No.13739687 Report

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>>13739637
>In this picture, the forces are out of balance, Kali (the Becoming, serpent, shakti) is trampling on her counterpart, Shiva (Being, consciousness). Sometimes the shakti serpent energy overpowers conscioussness.
that's very interesting when contrasted with the pleasant idea many people have of kundalini energy. Gurdjieff said that kundalini was not what people thought it was, and was in some way a destructive, hypnotizing force. this helps me understand his perspective a little more

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:51:52 No.13739688 Report

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Neato, I just posted something almost exactly the same, but much more poorly explained. It's what was revealed to me when meeting the twin, "I'm you from the future." Mind-boggling that the twin is also a helper, bringing us to realizations and giving guidance and so on. I had no idea any of this existed when my spiritual awakening happened, but then I suddenly became literate in the symbols describing this very process, something that was veiled before.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:52:15 No.13739689 Report

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>>13739684
I'm not believing that having your balls full of semen make you levitate or some shit and I'm the midwit? kek

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:52:21 No.13739690 Report

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>>13739676
Thanks. I suppose I can try just transmuting the energy as it is right now. Maybe that's what you're saying? I just don't want to try to heighten arousal because it puts me too close to the porn addicted mode.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:53:39 No.13739691 Report

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:54:26 No.13739692 Report

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>>13739690
transmute this you faggot

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:54:39 No.13739693 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/user/godgevlamste
please incorporate this guy studies into your research and meditations.

Also: a great thread I appreciate it

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:55:39 No.13739694 Report

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>>13739675
No one can be authority on Tantra
You can only have a personal experience that leads you into an understanding
Anyone talking about it is talking about their own path or methods they came up
But Tantra at root is some very boundless, energetic, personal thing.
It is like the energetic pool from which all systems may arise. You will get infinite expressions of it.
It's enigmatic because it is like experiencing "pure shakti"
And when people try to explain It, they just fuck it up
Even distinguishing white and black just fucks it up

I'm not saying it's not worth exploring but words and dogma will always fail you
Pure existence, women, and children, are your best bet.
Understand a child is like the most recent iteration of the mother. Unconditioned. In tune with itself and it's constitution. Not conditioned by culture or even life. It pokes and prods and plays around
It sees what happens when it acts in different ways

I appreciate men trying to talk about it but once you out words on it you're already one step removed.
Certainly love and non expectation with your partner are huge, but Tantra is not "white" and "black". It is more like self+expansion. Meaning aligning with your constitution and growing, inside and out.
Balance.

If you do these practices with your partner I cannot stress enough how important it is to not have a single negative thought about them
Your eyes and energy are doing more than you understand

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:57:08 No.13739695 Report

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>>13739690
What happened to me was I fell in lust with somebody, and I strongly suspect it was the person I was supposed to cross paths with, who would activate me. Cue the subliminal suggestion about kundalini awakening, and I took the energy I had while celibate, played a generic "binaural beats" type of track I found on YouTube, and had the energy flowing upwards within a couple of minutes. So it was obviously my time.

But it took a few days to figure out that I had to get the energy to rise to my head, to break the crown and have that toroidal energy flow. Everything I did, even every google search was like riding a wave of pure synchronicity, found appropriate pdfs of yoga books and turned to the exact page where I needed to proceed and work with the energy. Then it was like going to sleep with four senses and waking up with five.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:57:13 No.13739696 Report

Quoted By: >>13739705

>>13739686
>I deliberately entered a thread of things I don't like and now I am mad, how could this be happening to me?
I'm pretty sure you're that idiot leaf who was just arguing in the Tibet thread
>>13739689
>The wise student hears of the Tao and practises it diligently.
>The average student hears of the Tao and gives it thought now and again.
>The foolish student hears of the Tao and laughs aloud.
>If there were no laughter, the Tao would not be what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:59:16 No.13739697 Report

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>>13739685
Tough to say what is perverted or corrupted but it is a result of this concept within a very materialistic time.
Incorporating your own feminine and masculine is a solid goal imo. Balance through imbalance.

The point is that it is YOUR feminine and YOUR masculine in knowing YOURSELF
Not a brand name. Not having to look a certain way. Wear certain things. Be called certain things.
All of these things are outside>in.
The people expressing like this are simply trying to bring this concept forward but they are trapped in very materialistic society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:59:17 No.13739698 Report

Quoted By: >>13739704

does fapping result in hairloss? and does nofap revert hairloss? serious question bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 22:59:24 No.13739699 Report

Quoted By: >>13739750

>>13739632
Jeez, poltards are just as obsessed with dicks as trannies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:00:44 No.13739700 Report

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>>13739643
This is apt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:02:01 No.13739701 Report

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>>13739687
It's pretty terrifying and potentially destructive, you certainly don't want to be getting intoxicated or making bold declarations or commitments at the time it's happening. Personally I had to work through a series of illusions that seemed like the pure truth of the universe at the time, only for it to be blown wide open shortly after. I'm still working through the illusions, obviously, but I treat every narrative as a kind of fairy tale, groupings of archetypes used to experience and explain a broader reality.

>Every god, like every archetype, had an ominous shadow side, and so did Mercurius. In Alchemical Studies (par. 303) Jung warns that Hermes comes as the lumen naturae (light of nature) only to those who are mindful and vigilantly strive towards it, while for many the same light “turns into a perilous ignis fatuus [foolish fire, an illusion], and the psychopomp into a diabolical seducer.”

>His fiery aspect was sulfurous, active and masculine, and yet invisible and working in secret. He was the fire of hell, “a rearrangement of the heavenly, spiritual powers in the lower, chthonic world of matter,” found in the centre of the earth, in the dragon’s belly (Jung, Alchemical Studies, par. 257). At the same time, he was “the universal and scintillating fire of the light of nature, which carries the heavenly spirit within it.” This fiery spiritual seed impregnated the Virgin, i.e. the feminine aspect of the hermaphroditic Mercurius. He was also synonymous with divine water, “the spirit of life, not only indwelling in all living things, but immanent in everything that exists.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:02:14 No.13739702 Report

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>>13739628
That abstinence is good.
But every single one of you 90IQ NIGGERS that put spiritual spin on it should be hung drawn and quartered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:04:26 No.13739703 Report

Quoted By: >>13739707

>>13739694
wtf are spewing validate it or its fake bs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:04:30 No.13739704 Report

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>>13739698
I'm not sure there's a good answer. dht shrinks hair follicles, but there's more to hair loss than just dht. your follicles need to be sensitive to it for one, and there are other chemicals like cortisol (inflammatory and causes follicles to fall out), or progesterone 5 that prevent them from growing back. the link between wanking and hairloss that I've heard of is that wanking increases prolactin, which in some way increases 5 alpha reductase which turns T into DHT. if you're looking to slow hairloss or bring it back, I think Danny Roddy's hair like a fox shows some promise. but the basic answer is to reduce stress, promote circulation and overall health

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:05:17 No.13739705 Report

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>>13739696
im having fun you fag why bother me ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:06:04 No.13739706 Report

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Okay so people understand

There is no ppositive and negative energy. There is just energy. Then there is a self. Self chooses negative and positive.
The stories we make up are based on how the body feels.
For instance, step away from one thing that you always do. One thing in your routine that you need or always stick to.
Watch how you will turn into a big brat. (Funny no one knows the etymology of tantrum).

Now, if you break this down and are aware, you can understand this is just energy. You have to dissociate from the narratives which is more challenging for men (see the comment on yin yang).
Once you learn to see it as just energy you can do anything with it.

Something simple is like
>wife piss me off
>pent up
>go for run/punch bag
But once you understand all energy is actually not good or bad you can change it to anything. It is only you that has to do the changing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:06:29 No.13739707 Report

Quoted By: >>13739710

>>13739703
validate it for yourself. people can point to the moon, but only you can choose to turn your head and look at it yourself. there's nothing more to it than that. if you're obsessed with being able to verify things with scientific tools and methods over your own experience, then spirituality will probably not hold any value for you. if you're a strong willed person you should be able to overcome your preferences for a long enough period to give some kind of method an honest attempt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:08:56 No.13739708 Report

Quoted By: >>13739718

>>13739701
I can definitely understand that, it gave me considerable trouble years back and I think only now am I getting to the point where I could actually manage to work with it properly. The main thing that is in the way now is all the bad habits I generated in reaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:11:06 No.13739709 Report

Quoted By: >>13739714

>>13739687
Balance is sort of a meme
Imagine tending to all your plants in the garden equally at the same time

Balance happens through imbalance and that's how growth happens
Kali is not imbalanced. There's way more going on in that picture
Read the devi mahatmya
One is about going full send, all the way. This is for expansion. Many times we stop short of how far we should take it. Kali also gets swept up in it. As one is intended.
The next is Kali stops herself because she loves Shiva (or the universe, the drama of life)
She does not "stop" exactly, but she changes form into a lover. It is like stopping the way a slingshot or a "peak" of a wave stops, by changing direction.

There's much more hence why it's so iconic
It speaks deeply to us as a species because it has high tier knowledge on "metaphysics" or whatever. Knowledge of ourselves and our planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:11:29 No.13739710 Report

Quoted By: >>13739712

>>13739707
validate spirit/soul you are makin these fucked up claims like some cow worshippin nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:12:37 No.13739711 Report

Quoted By: >>13739748

what the fuck do these threads have to do with /pol/

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:13:46 No.13739712 Report

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>>13739710

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:14:42 No.13739713 Report

Quoted By: >>13739716 >>13739722

>>13739701
This is pure Reddit dude
Shakti is the most bold boundless potent force there is
It is not for those who play safe
And sometimes she will spontaneously approach you
The world keeps on spinning regardless of the machinations of men and what they think things ought to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:15:34 No.13739714 Report

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>>13739709
thanks for sharing your input. I think it would be boring for things to be completely balanced all the time, but there are definitely a lot of situations that seem in need of balance, both within and without

sage joch

sage joch Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:15:45 No.13739715 Report

Quoted By: >>13739717

>>13739628
jannies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:17:26 No.13739716 Report

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>>13739713
I don't think what he said is plebbit
you can play safely with potentially dangerous things

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:18:39 No.13739717 Report

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>>13739715
>catalog full of slide threads
>several people come out to 1pbtid complaining about the relevance to an alchemy / spirituality thread
really makes one ponder

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:21:27 No.13739718 Report

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>>13739694
>The topoi of “women’s work” and “child’s play” is central to alchemy. Known to Alexandrian hermetics, the allegory of women’s work, like that of child’s play, occurs in many different alchemical treatises prompting varying interpretations.
>Therefore they compare this art to women’s work; that is, washing until it becomes white, cooking and roasting until it is done.
This seems resonant with how Jung worked with alchemical concepts. Imaginative experimentation, less "the occult", more play between the internal and external world, letting concepts define and influence the physical etc.

>>13739708
It made me go pretty crazy and embarrass myself, but I actually kicked some long-ingrained habits in short succession and was partly freed from the grip of others. The power of renunciation or self-denial I think is located in the vitality and consciousness generated by suffering. Maybe you're just storing up bad habits for a big burn, who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:24:06 No.13739719 Report

Quoted By: >>13739728

>>13739718
maybe, but I think I just got in a little over my head and those habits are the result of running from that. I do remember however of times when I was deep in meditation and I would resist or just observe very strong impulses. when that happened there was distinct feeling of real strength, the feeling of "this is the real I"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:25:21 No.13739720 Report

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>>13739718
Definitely
Simply watch children and see how women are right in their POV
Ultimately there are only ways but if you understand women you will understand this all more

sage joch

sage joch Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:26:43 No.13739721 Report

Quoted By: >>13739724

>>13739717
>spirituality thread
you're talking about not jerking off so you can get super powers, this isn't political at all. no fap is just another slide thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:28:33 No.13739722 Report

Quoted By: >>13739730

>>13739713
Very opinion on both our parts, but a crucial aspect of the awakening is about contending with a force that has trickster/illusory elements to it, and your consenting to be bold in some situations is also agreeing to be burned. Sometimes these plays are to expose a thing about your personality - for example, not thinking things through before acting. Knowledge of the self, develops your psyche, gives you new angles to look at situations. Which you don't have to engage with reckless abandon.

sage joch

sage joch Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:31:55 No.13739723 Report

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this is now an anti-circumcision thread. fuck genital mutilation and fuck jews

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:32:33 No.13739724 Report

Quoted By: >>13739727

>>13739721
strange then that I don't see you in the obvious slide threads that don't have any constructive intent at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:34:21 No.13739725 Report

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>>13739628
i have mastered the ability to have an orgasm without nutting.

am I beating the system? its a hard fuckin trick man. took a lotta practice. I usually do it with the sun shining on my nuts thru the window in the afternoon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:34:44 No.13739726 Report

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going to tiddyfuck a fat girl this weekend and fuck her raw and nut on her face

sage joch

sage joch Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:35:23 No.13739727 Report

Quoted By: >>13739733

>>13739724
>strange then that I don't see you in the obvious slide threads that don't have any constructive intent at all

i say "wisdom in all fields" in countless slide threads, so now you can recognize me. fuck kike bullshit, and fuck no fap. all that matters is you don't do it 5x a damn day. more importantly, fuck genital mutilation brainwashing. save our children from getting their dicks cut instead of solving your masturbation addiction nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:36:21 No.13739728 Report

Quoted By: >>13739731 >>13739735

>>13739719
I wish you the best. I've heard from people who have had more than one awakening, so it might happen again in a different way. The blessed thing about this process is how many times something seemingly impossible can happen with elements you never thought would work together as part of a whole. I saw something similar regarding inner strength, the pearl that's revealed through meaningful sacrifice, under layers of desires and identities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:36:44 No.13739729 Report

Quoted By: >>13739731

>>13739664
What do you mean by "correct breathing"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:36:55 No.13739730 Report

Quoted By: >>13739743

>>13739722
this is the scariest thing for me: when I get more involved in spiritual practice the little mistakes seem to have much larger consequences. like some remark you make that would normally just be ignored makes someone very angry, or not paying attention to your movements leads to something breaking or an injury where it would normally be nothing consequential. for me this can really feed my fear, wondering what kind of trouble I could be getting myself into

sage joch

sage joch Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:37:41 No.13739731 Report

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>>13739728
>>13739729
fuck you leafs for entertaining this shit. wisdom in all fields when replying to slide threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:37:55 No.13739732 Report

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>>13739671
>heiros gamos

Matter & Pattern
Mater & Pater
Mother & Father

Full spiritual liberation, the magnum opus = a four step, sequential, duality-bridging process.

>The female aspect first liberates the male consciousness/spirit (integration of the anima)
>the male liberates the female materially (the slaying of the dragon)
>the female liberates the male materially (the holy marriage)
> the male liberates the female consciousness/spirit (the integration of the animus).

In Jungian terms, the result is a quaternio hieros gamos - a holy marriage between the four aspects of the two individuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:38:18 No.13739733 Report

Quoted By: >>13740730

>>13739727
don't knock it till you try it. there's truth in what has been said in this thread, and even if you don't believe it yourself I'd argue that your counter shilling efforts are needed in other threads, not here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:40:47 No.13739734 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPspxpNI2KM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:40:58 No.13739735 Report

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>>13739728
thanks. I know I can tap into it again, it just takes applied effort. For awhile I have been too scattered to make a diligent effort but as time goes on, I become more frustrated with that state of mind and I become more focused

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:41:26 No.13739736 Report

Quoted By: >>13739740

>>13739695
Cool. I wonder if things like this are happening for a lot of people recently. Something similar happened to me, but it was falling in love, with the sexual attraction coming up as a result. It led to a heart opening and it felt like kundalini went up my back midway. I had so much energy it was unreal. Where I got off track was in developing an attachment to the person, and then having to deal with grasping feelings. A lot of the things I learned as far as working with energy are still there, but I got bogged down in the personal feelings.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:42:07 No.13739737 Report

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>>13739723
May the Lord rebuke you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:42:15 No.13739738 Report

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>>13739628
Part of the partner practice is to excite the sexual energy in you. You technically don't require a sexual partner to bring this energy to bear but a partner helps to excite this energy when you are learning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:43:29 No.13739739 Report

Quoted By: >>13739741

>>13739628
Check out this video, it's right on topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAYSxjc-8ro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:44:22 No.13739740 Report

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>>13739736
sounds like the energy was released or freed, and then got wrapped up again in something else. it's like riding a bike, you're going to fall for awhile but eventually you get the hang of riding it.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:46:30 No.13739741 Report

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>>13739739
video title: Sexual Transmutation In Spirituality & How To Do It: NoFap | Semen Retention | Brahmacharya Yoga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAYSxjc-8ro&feature=emb_title

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:48:17 No.13739742 Report

Quoted By: >>13739745 >>13739746

Hey I want to fuck my step cousin guys
I gazed into her light brown eyes after 4 beers and decided I wanted to BLEACH her RAW

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:51:32 No.13739743 Report

Quoted By: >>13739744

>>13739730
The consequence of all the conscientiousness training is sensitivity (wisdom). These things are already happening and have been happening but you may have not been paying attention or seeing the subtle roots the way you may when practicing. This is also why morality practice is an essential aspect of cultivating insight: if you are not grounded you can easily be undone by fear, in particular the fear of your own power.

Theosophists promoted meditation specifically but de-emphasize the morality practice that is essential to real progress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:54:36 No.13739744 Report

Quoted By: >>13739747

>>13739743
the way I see it is when you do these types of practice, you gain and insight and strength but there's an added cost of needing to be more responsible. I think that's an issue of mine, I don't want to be more responsible; I want to have the benefits but be able to remain aloof

sage joch

sage joch Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:55:30 No.13739745 Report

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>>13739742
>step cousin
there is nothing wrong with this. there is something heavily wrong with circumcision though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Nov 2021 23:58:56 No.13739746 Report

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>>13739742
Based, this is the gayest fucking thread on this board. Nobody mentioning how true enlightenment is only possible through necrophilia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Nov 2021 00:02:29 No.13739747 Report

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>>13739744
I feel like there's a counterweight to this principle because you are also being relieved of things like shame and rigid dogmatism, allowing the learning process to be more exploratory, with the added unburdening of knowing stuff isn't 'real' the way it once was.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Nov 2021 00:13:53 No.13739748 Report

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>>13739711
Because the Jews are stealing your vital bodily fluids through porn and permissive sexuality. The redpill is that it goes beyond bread-and-circus, and feeds demonic forces while draining you of your spiritual potential.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Nov 2021 00:17:47 No.13739749 Report

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>>13739628
There is almost zero long term studies that I could find on female virginity and its physiologocal and psychological effects so idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Nov 2021 00:18:51 No.13739750 Report

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>>13739699
>men are obsessed with dicks
here's your (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jY130BgR Fri 05 Nov 2021 01:12:54 No.13740510 Report

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>>13739628
How do these spiritual concepts translate to female orgasm? That's something I can't wrap my head around, as they have no seed to spill - but still derive supernormal pleasure/stimulus from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f5MUrNxZ Fri 05 Nov 2021 01:13:56 No.13740523 Report

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devil shit

sage joch

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sage joch ID:7ntYcDor Fri 05 Nov 2021 01:45:05 No.13740730 Report

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>>13739733
>don't knock it till you try it. there's truth in what has been said in this thread, and even if you don't believe it yourself I'd argue that your counter shilling efforts are needed in other threads, not here
all i said was it isn't political, which is why it was moved to bant. i'm not going to try it cause i fuck my wife several times every week and i'm not a faggot loser.

sage joch

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sage joch ID:7ntYcDor Fri 05 Nov 2021 01:46:35 No.13740738 Report

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maybe twice in the last decade did i jerk off more than once in a single day. deal with your addictions in a less delusional way morons, of course you're going to be a worthless dipshit if you jack it 10x a day.

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