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>>14325725 Stop simping for a satanic ancient mystery cult unless you want to be cast into the outer darkness for an age. God hates your religion even more than Shitlam.
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>>14325725 nigger spic I dont care what retarded arguments you have
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>>357386637 >No dude, faith in Jesus Christ is what grants you salvation Then why being up the Great Commandments?
>We gee if one does this then they no longer have faith in Jesus, ergo no salvation Jesus also says "if you don't believe in me at least believe in my works'. So, disbelieving in the person of Jesus is not an automatic dis-qualifier, furthermore how can you know that your interpretation of that scripture is correct? Blaspheming is not the same as 'lacking faith' or 'disbelieving'. You can just as easily and more effectively blaspheme God if you DO believe in Him. Consider Satan and the demons, they all believe in God, but they blaspheme him all the time.
>Jesus is the only way to the father. Not a pope, priest, apostles, eucharist, etc But Jesus is the eucharist, for He says: "I am the bread of life" and "takes this bread and eat of it, for it is my flesh". How more clear does it have to be?
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>>14325726 >God hates your religion even more than Shitlam. What denomination do you belong to? No follower of Christ would put a snake head on Jesus. And saying that God would prefer Islam over Catholicism? Lmao. This has to be some troll.
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>>14325731 That isn't Jesus its satan, that throne is clearly a demonic image.
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>>14325728 they think the eucharistic is symbolic, kek. their grape juice and cracker is symbolic I guess. it sure isn't valid.
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>>14325732 You are right, it isn't Jesus. It is most likely a lump of bronze. Satan is depicted surrounding Jesus and harassing Him.
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>>14325733 >their grape juice and cracker is symbolic I guess. Very true. The Church Father's considered the wine and the bread to be the body of Christ. They would not have recognised Protestantism as true Christianity, and yet Protestants on here claim that they are closest to the Early Christians. Lmao.
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>>14325729 >>14325730 Scratch that earlier comment, these are decent memes.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:39:02 No. 14325738 Report >>14325725 Will the celebration of Christmas is derived from the Catholic Church is strategy to try and mesh pagans into Christianity. The day was selected because it was a pagan holiday, not because they believed it was Jesus's birthday. So from the get-go it has been established on pagan beliefs.
So if I engage in paganism and the celebration of a pagan day but worship Jesus as well, that does not erase the pagan aspect of what I'm doing.
You cannot serve God and Mammon. You cannot serve two masters. Jesus wants all of you or none of you. We cannot bandwagon on pagan celebrations. That is compromising Christ.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:42:38 No. 14325739 Report >>14325728 This is true Jesus said that we can know him if we keep his commandments. He who says I know him but does not keep his commandments as a liar and the truth is not in him.
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>>14325738 So when was Jesus born ? All churches celebrate Christmas in december
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>>14325737 Hey, it's the guy who made the second thread. How are you?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:46:10 No. 14325742 Report Quoted By:
>>14325740 Well from what we know about when the census was taken and the weather at the time it was either March or late September early October.
Anonymous
Imagine believing that all of Christendom has been wrong for 2000 years and you are the only enlightened genius who actually knows the truth.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:47:30 No. 14325744 Report Quoted By:
>>14325743 No I just agree with the first century church. You don't.
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>>14325741 Not too well, struggling with lust and sloth, as I'm here. Can't wait to take myself to Mass and Confession on Sunday.
Other than that, I'm good, how about you?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:50:42 No. 14325746 Report >>14325745 Why don't you just turn away when you see an attractive woman? And what is sloth on the Bible? You're thinking about Dante's inferno. Dante's inferno is not the Bible.
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>>14325738 >Will the celebration of Christmas is derived from the Catholic Church is strategy to try and mesh pagans into Christianity. In the process it saved a multitude of souls. In fact, if it hadn't done so, there is a good chance that neither you nor I would even be Christian to begin with.
>The day was selected because it was a pagan holiday, not because they believed it was Jesus's birthday. There are those who would disagree with this. The Early Church fathers celebrated Jesus's birthday in Winter, centuries before the point about the Catholic Church wanting to convert pagans.
Dispensationalists would rather correct Jesus's birthday and place it on April 1st. So, they would rather have Jesus born on April Fool's Day. Admitted it, you've been had.
>So if I engage in paganism Paganism is the worship of multiple gods, if you worship Jesus Christ you do not worship multiple gods, therefore you are not engaging in paganism.
>We cannot bandwagon on pagan celebrations. >That is compromising Christ. Again, where is the Biblical source for this?
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>>14325745 Dominus tecum, frater.
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>>14325746 >Why don't you just turn away when you see an attractive woman? I struggle with porn, not fornication.
>And what is sloth on the Bible? Are you suggesting sloth isn't a sin?
>>14325748 Amen, brother. Thank you.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:56:28 No. 14325750 Report >>14325747 >Christianity. >In the process it saved a multitude of souls. In fact, if it hadn't done so, there is a good chance tha In the Old Testament, God consistently uses wicked people to do his will in their wicked ways. They don't escape punishment. Their deeds are not excused. Nor should these.
The source for my statements are the scripture I put with it. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve God and mammon. Looking to satiate pagans is not of Christ. That is serving two masters. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Do not yolk with the ungodly. Scripture after scripture.
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>>14325739 Right but "knowing him" and "keeping his commandments" is not necessarily the same thing as having faith (i.e. believing that Jesus was the Son of God). This is what was in contention here
>No dude, faith in Jesus Christ is what grants you salvation So, the question remains. Why bring up the Great Commandments?
>>14325745 I'm drinking the blood of Christ right now. It is good. I find posting on /pol/ to be hard but rewarding work.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:58:01 No. 14325752 Report >>14325749 >Are you suggesting sloth isn't a sin? I'm suggesting I don't know what you mean by it. Being lazy? Not conducting enough business? Not being able to eat because you refuse to work?
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>>14325725 Protestants are gays and cringe, refute that you cucks !
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>>14325746 Parable of the Talents, loads of references in Proverbs and various references made throughout the Pauline Epistles
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 22:59:59 No. 14325755 Report >>14325751 I'm not entirely sure what you're questioning then. I thought I was agreeing with you.
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>>14325750 >In the Old Testament Do you have evidence of the same in the New Testament? If not, how do you know that this is the case here?
>Looking to satiate pagans is not of Christ. How are you satiating pagans, if they turn away from paganism and celebrate Christ, then they are no longer pagans and no longer worship two masters, but only one. This is simple logic. You are smart enough to understand this.
>A friend of the world is an enemy of God
See many pagans in the world today? I don't.
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>>14325751 Glad to hear that. I try not to post here as often as I used to, the sexual and violent imagery is not very helpful spiritually, but a little of it can't hurt as long as we carry out His will.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:05:19 No. 14325758 Report >>14325754 I mean that's just if you don't work you don't eat. The Bible would teach against engaging in business more than necessary though.
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>>14325752 sloth
/slôTH,slōTH/
noun
1.
reluctance to work or make an effort; laziness.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:07:39 No. 14325760 Report >>14325756 >How are you satiating pagans That was the entire point of using one of their days. Instead of the word of God being enough, the point was to use one of their days and mesh Christianity into it. The only reason to do such a thing is to satiate pagans.
You are simply suggesting the ends justify the means. This is not biblical. Meanwhile that pagan day persists. It's no surprise that the day is mostly full of paganism like snowman and a Santa Claus that takes the place of God, etc. This is no accident. It is the fruit of compromising Jesus for paganism.
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>>14325757 >sexual and violent imagery It still has an effect on you? How newfaggish are you?
But if you struggle with all that in spite of having faith and being a devout follower, why doesn't God help fix that for you like he promised?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:08:21 No. 14325762 Report Quoted By:
>>14325759 I mean yeah it's a pretty broad term though. I was asking regarding what. If you're not making an effort in usury that's probably a good thing.
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>>14325743 Imagine having a mom that deepthroats strangers in the street at night.
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>>14325755 It was a reply to a different Anon, one who said that the practice of the Eucharist was not needed for Salvation. I asked him why not and he said that Jesus gave the two Great Commandments to ensure Salvation. But this neglects the blaspheming against the Holy Spirit (which can condemn anyone). In response he said
>>No dude, faith in Jesus Christ is what grants you salvation This is inconsistent.
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>>14325752 Dante is irrelevant on that score too. Thomistic commentaries in the Summa, that form the basis of much of modern catechesis, predate his work by some time.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:09:57 No. 14325766 Report >>14325764 It's not needed for salvation because the thief on the cross did not need it. Nor did he need baptism. Salvation is up to God's gracious forgiveness but he does come and the Eucharist. Neglecting it when you have the opportunity to engage in it would be sinful.
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>>14325725 I'll restate my position from the last thread:
Believe in the triune God, believe Jesus Christ is God in the flesh and that he died and resurrected for our sins. Be baptized and try to live according to God's commands.
That's it, what more to real Christianity is there? Why pray to Mary, or the saints or to anyone other than the almighty? Why have these man made doctrines like "the immaculate conception" or refuse to believe Mary knew her husband after the virgin birth? And why call people who disagree with these man made nonnessential "doctrines" heretics and say their going to hell?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:11:59 No. 14325768 Report Quoted By:
>>14325767 I think this is really well said.
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>>14325757 This place is terrible. If you want to block out images go to Settings: Miscellaneous: Custom CSS of this page and the Catalogue and paste this code in:
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Make sure you enable Image Hover in Media & Images in settings and you are good.
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>>14325738 > The day was selected because it was a pagan holiday, not because they believed it was Jesus's birthday Jewish propaganda. There’s no pagan holiday that predates christmas that was held on the 25th. The reason why the 25th was selected was because according to ancient thought, important men were consummated on the same day they died. Since Jesus died on March 25th, it was thought he was birthed on December 25th
Go kys for spreading jew lies, faggot
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>>14325758 Sure, those statements aren't controversial. In Catholic teaching, it more correctly refers to acedia which becomes a problem when it constitutes an ignorance or rejection of that which is spiritually good, the privation of which is inherently an evil.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:15:06 No. 14325773 Report >>14325771 No Christian would tell another person to kill themselves. Your nonsensical zeitgeist level point is disregarded
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>>14325761 >How newfaggish are you? I'm not, I used to like the imagery and the political fantasies before my conversion. I don't like them anymore. The violenece promoted here is unjustified and a single picture of a not-so-attractive woman after 7 days of abstinence is enough for me to light the flame of relapse.
>why doesn't God help fix that for you like he promised? What? Show me one Bible verse in which God promises to take care of our problems, you will find the opposite. He gave us free will to make our own choices, he even let Paul struggle with temptation till the very end. We can choose to love Him or reject Him. At this very moment, I am aware that I'm rejecting Him to engage in a destructive vice, but it is thanks to Him that it was possible for me to find meaning again and start cutting down on all the garbage that I had been consuming.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:15:36 No. 14325775 Report Quoted By:
>>14325772 Oh, okay. Well that makes sense.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:16:21 No. 14325776 Report >>14325774 Very good post. See, besides a few glaring issues, the Catholic theology is very on point.
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>>14325773 > No Christian would tell another person to kill themselves. I just did.
> Your nonsensical zeitgeist level point is disregarded Projecting much, kike?
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>>14325773 This. What kind of Christian tells a man to end his own life, particularly because he is 'a jew'. Even Paul does not say such a thing about infidels preaching a false Gospel.
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>>14325776 We can always find common ground in many areas, it would be great if our few differences weren't so important.
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>>14325760 >That was the entire point of using one of their days. Instead of the word of God being enough, the point was to use one of their days and mesh Christianity into it. The only reason to do such a thing is to satiate pagans. This is debatable. If Christ really was born in December, as those who were close to him claimed, then it was God who chose that time in order to make transition of the Gentiles and pagans more fluid and easier. Who are you to judge what God has seen fit to do?
>the ends justify the means The ends do justify the means. Jesus saved us by being crucified, so it is clear that He believed the ends justified the means. It is therefore Biblical.
How is a Snowman pagan? Santa Claus means Saint Nicholas, a very pious man.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:21:04 No. 14325782 Report Quoted By:
>>14325779 Steven, what about to be murdered, had only one concern and that was a prayer to God not to hold his murderer's sins against them. That is a Christian. A Christian would die to save even the wicked because that Christian wants the person to have more time to come to Jesus. God rejoices in the death of a Christian, but mourns the death of the wicked.
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>>14325777 If you truly are a believer, you need to speak with your pastor or some trusted friends and ask them if you're approach here is legitimate. A venomous tongue, especially toward other believers is not fitting for a follower of Jesus.
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>>14325735 Fuck Catholics fuck prots, EO is da best
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>>14325774 >and a single picture of a not-so-attractive woman after 7 days of abstinence is enough for me to light the flame of relapse. Ay caramba, at that rate in 14 days of abstinence you'll be craving a 10/10 in bongland
>Show me one Bible verse If you pray nonstop, etc. He gives you Matthew 7:7 and if you are in fact one of His subjects you'll be part of Matthew 7:11
>At this very moment, I am aware that I'm rejecting Him to engage in a destructive vice Which you are struggling to leave aside despite having been born in a scummy world that injects that into your eyeballs 24/7 i.e. not yout fault
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:22:05 No. 14325786 Report >>14325780 Very true. I'd seriously thought about becoming Catholic but we're not just for these few very glaring issues. The basic theology of Catholicism is extremely refreshing whenever I hear it. Calvinism gets so tedious with all the predestination and anti-free will stuff.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:23:56 No. 14325787 Report >>14325781 Well the character of Santa Claus replaces God. And then when children find out that Santa Claus is not real, they begin to question whether Jesus or God is real as well. A Santa Claus has the traits that God has and replaces him. He sees everything and judges you for your wicked or good deeds. He is omnipresent, has supernatural powers and effectively omniscient.
And I was more referring to magic talking snowman than Christmas film. All this stuff is part of the Christmas lore and it is not a mistake.
All this said, I don't think it's necessarily a salvation issue. I think of somebody understands what I am saying then they will be judged for it, but if they don't then they will not be just for it.
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>>14325774 Praying for you, anon. God bless.
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>>14325787 I completely agree with this take, plus the real St Nicholas was based, so is a much better figure for kids to learn about.
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>>14325766 >Neglecting it when you have the opportunity to engage in it would be sinful. Jesus says that the only way to the Father is through him and specifies the blood and bread at this point. All the people that left at that point will not reach the Father even if they lived very by the rules of the Torah. Mostly I agree, although I do think that the point about the thief might be understating it slightly. Being crucified alongside Jesus is an enormously auspicious event and can either save you or condemn you. In a lot of ways it foreshadows what goes on in Revelations "being seated at the right and left hand of the Father". Right, left, Good, bad. If anything that is symbolic, a real actual symbolic event.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:31:37 No. 14325792 Report >>14325789 There have been some amazing Catholics, no doubt. Which is why I know for certain that there are plenty of Catholics who are indeed saints. I would say this is despite some teachings tho. There have even been some very holy popes. In fact the very first one too step down is one of my favorite Christians of all time.
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>>14325786 Arriving late, so apologies if going over old ground. What are the biggest obstacles? Indulgences? Transubstantiation? I can imagine those being difficult to approach from outside
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>>14325767 >Why pray to Mary, or the saints or to anyone other than the almighty? Why ask for your loved ones to pray for you?
>Why have these man made doctrines like "the immaculate conception" The immaculate conception is Biblical, at least in Jesus' case.
>And why call people who disagree with these man made nonnessential "doctrines" heretics and say their going to hell? Source?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:32:45 No. 14325795 Report Quoted By:
>>14325790 Well my only point about the thief is drive home the point that salvation is 100% up to God's gracious forgiveness. But we have our commandments and our obligated to fulfill them. The Eucharist is one of them. So if we have the opportunity to partake in it, we should be doing that.
But it would be wrong to put this above God's grace is forgiveness. Because we have already seen somebody find salvation that did not have the Eucharist. I'm not trying to nitpick. I do think this is a very important point to make.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:33:52 No. 14325796 Report >>14325793 Well the biggest thing for me is Irenaeus is speculations about Mary being a co-redeemer, and how's the Catholic Church really ran with that to a point that I believe it to be heresy and idolatry. And since I understand this, I will be judged for it. There are plenty of people within your faith that do not understand that or see it the way that I do, so God will certainly be merciful to them. We are judged according to our understanding.
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>>14325776 Well seeing as the other anon is gone after asking me for bible sauce, would you take the challenge?
>>Show me one Bible verse >If you pray nonstop, etc. He gives you Matthew 7:7 and if you are in fact one of His subjects you'll be part of Matthew 7:11 Anonymous
>>14325792 Interesting, I just figured they were all Christians when you go back that far. Good to hear you say that - Benedict is great. Don't tell anybody but there are a few Protestant theologians I read with interest - Karl Barth, for example was a great Christian mind.
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>>14325740 No. Eastern Catholics, orthodox, and Nestorians do on Jan 7
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>>14325725 Just remind them that their religion only exists because a fat cuck king that couldn't produce male heirs wanted yet another divorce and they are all heretics.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:38:19 No. 14325801 Report >>14325797 Would you mind refreshing me on what that topic is about? Are we talking about repetitive prayer?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:39:09 No. 14325802 Report >>14325798 There you go. At the heart of this I believe it is just Satan's deception. Works and faith being pitted against each other is a real tragedy since they are not actually at odds at all.
Anonymous
This whole thread is really interesting, despite some mud flinging. If there was a board like 4chan specifically for discussion of Christianity would you use it? Asking for a friend
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>>14325725 Mary isn't who you pray to, pagan, it's The Holy Spirit. The Queen of Heaven is a pagan Goddess and Catholics name Mary after it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven_(antiquity) >Queen of Heavenwas a title given to a number of ancientsky goddessesworshipped throughout the ancient Mediterranean and theancient Near East. Goddesses known to have been referred to by the title includeInanna,Anat,Isis,Nut,Astarte, and possiblyAsherah(by the prophetJeremiah). In Greco-Roman times,HeraandJunobore this title. Forms and content of worship varied. >>Jeremiah 44: 18But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. 19And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven >Queen of Heaven(Latin:Regina Caeli) is a title given to theVirgin Mary, byChristiansmainly of theCatholic Churchand, to a lesser extent, inAnglicanism,[1][2][3][4]Lutheranism,[5][6]andEastern Orthodoxy. Catholics are Pagans and the anti-Christ.
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>>14325779 This is your post from the other thread, is it not?
>>14325773 >Don't fucking pray with or to Mary, but The Holy Spirit. You sound like a hypocrite.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:41:03 No. 14325806 Report >>14325798 Also yes, Benedict was fantastic. It's been like him that make me examine Catholicism and if I could ever come around to it. I seem men like that and I think maybe it is possible.
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>>14325801 >QRD >anon struggles with vices, sins >lust and sloth >I ask anon why God wont fix that for him since anon was born in a world that throws that at him 24/7 >and since anon is a devout christian >anon asks for sauce that God fixes stuff >I gave him Matthew 7:7 and 7:11 Anonymous
>>14325805 Sorry, I mean this post
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:42:45 No. 14325809 Report >>14325805 I pray to Jesus Christ. I understanding of the dead is how the first century understood it. People like Justin Martyr and Eren ass would tell you that when you die you go to Sheol, or Hades in Greek. That this is where you wait until the day of judgment when everyone rises up and is judged. They cannot hear our prayers there.
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>>14325803 I would and it would be great for nu/pol/ since most threads nowadays is larpagans vs christians so it would clean some of that
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:44:16 No. 14325812 Report >>14325807 Well God does ask us to pray and he does give us blessings. He will not normally intervene without prayer and that's why we are asked to pray and have others pray for us. But at the same time, when Jesus turn water to wine the first thing he did was to ask them to go get the water. We have to do our part. He could have just made it out of thin air but he had the requirement that they do their part first.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:44:41 No. 14325813 Report Quoted By:
>>14325809 This is butched sorry. The voice dictating. Irenaeus*
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>>14325796 Of course, I left out the most obvious thing! If you've studied Irenaeus, then I'm not just going to explain my take on it patronisingly. I will say that I had some trouble with this during a period of what you might call "re-conversion" during my teenage years. It was only really through quite a lot of meditative prayer that the intellect eventually followed. Likewise the depiction of Mary as the Lady of Revelation.
I do still think we have a problem in the Church in adequately setting forth the more beautiful and mystical (to Catholics anyway) aspects of that teaching. A more scholastic approach can tend to put people off.
Anonymous
>>14325812 Checkd. There's stuff that you're unable to do your part e.g. being a victim of a crime, being deceived or lies about you propagating. There's also stuff that you've done everything you could and only God intervention would work now.
I've seen them all, and colombian anon prays seeing as he's a devout christian. So why.
>inb4 wait and have faith Then people cant move on because they have to pray daily for it to supposedly happen
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:50:05 No. 14325816 Report >>14325814 One thing I was surprised to learn is that Catholics will admit when there are problems within the church. I'd always been under the impression that a Catholic will do whatever the Pope says and not question it regardless of how wicked it is. So ask time goes on perhaps I'm learning more.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:51:54 No. 14325817 Report >>14325815 Well in the end our prayer should be what God's will is. All of my prayers are under the umbrella of God's will. I want nothing more than God's will to be done. Since God will not normally intervene, that is the point of prayer. But if it is God's will that we go through some suffering, then it is what is best for us. We are supposed to pick up our crosses and walk with them. It's not an easy walk, nor was it for Jesus. And Jesus even asked for the cup to be taken from him, if there was another way. But in the end it was his persecution that was necessary. And with our crosses that is the same from time to time. That's why faith is so important. Many times we will not understand something and we'll just have to rely on our faith.
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>>14325725 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-26.htm >John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. >Helper https://biblehub.com/greek/3875.htm Strong's Concordance
paraklétos: called to one's aid
Original Word: παράκλητος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: paraklétos
Phonetic Spelling: (par-ak'-lay-tos)
Definition: called to one's aid
Usage: (a) an advocate, intercessor, (b) a consoler, comforter, helper, (c) Paraclete.
Besides naming Mary after a pagan Goddess, praying to her is also blasphemy against The Holy Spirit, Who is our intercessor in prayer. Pagans, The Holy Spirit hates all of you and will kill you and throw you in hell.
You can't repent of blasphemy against The Holy Spirit. See this female? It's not Mary, it's The Holy Spirit.
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>>14325725 What is the catholic view on being born again? To elaborate, what must a pagan do to be saved?
What do you think about the 9 manifestations?
Anonymous
>>14325796 >Irenaeus is speculations about Mary being a co-redeemer Yes, I'm dubious about some of that myself. Mary being immaculately conceived for example, seems a step too far. But these statements are not well known in the Catholic faith. In fact, in my entire life I have heard of the latter only once and this is the first I'm hearing of the former.
I also agree with the idea that we are judged based on our understanding, even though this is not something that is explicitly or otherwise taught in Catholicism, as I understand it. I'm guessing it is Scriptural however.
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Catholicism is religion, not Christianity
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:55:21 No. 14325823 Report Quoted By:
>>14325820 Well I will say if I had to pick between the average Calvinist Protestant and the theology of the Catholics in this thread, I would overwhelmingly jump on the chance to have the Catholic represent Christianity. You guy at all right.
Anonymous
>>14325817 But that's ignoring again Matt 7:7 and 7:11. I know that in e.g. Thessalonians 5:18 He said to be grateful for everything, regardless. But how in the hell could someone be grateful for being royally screwed countless times while seeing evil thrive unscathed? It's impossible, at least for me, hence why I strayed from His path.
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>>14325725 >>14325818 Look at the image here and you'll notice the wings The Queen of Heaven has and the owl.
>>14325804 Look to this silhouette of the Dove now along with this image.
>>14325818 I see an image of a hooded and robed female who Catholics name Mary, along with wings associated with the Queen of Heaven. The Holy Spirit IS The True Queen of Heaven and used the Dove to warn of pagan and Mary worship.
Anonymous
>>14325725 Protestants don't understand that saints are the opposite of pagan idols for their devition and loyalty to Christ. Saints are a weapon against the devil and the protestant have been tricked to defy saints. Mary is top saint.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Thu 20 Jan 2022 23:58:27 No. 14325828 Report >>14325824 I don't think it necessarily ignores it. Every one of our prayers is answered. Sometimes the best gift is for that fair not to be answered. If it is not the will of God that we receive what we ask for, then the true gift is then not receiving it.
Anonymous
>>14325826 >Catholics name Mary Her name is in scripture
Anonymous
>>14325802 >>14325806 Amen to both of those
>>14325816 Yeah, I think Catholics get a bit too prickly about people getting that wrong given how much of a meme it's become. Satan has always been hard at work in the (material) Church. I think it's really important for us to keep that in mind - it's a funny situation, rejecting the world but clinging to the part of it that connects us to God. I've always liked that metaphor of the Church as a ship.
Have you read about the Pornocracy? The Borgias weren't the worst by a long way...weirdly I find it encouraging that it's endured that and borne good fruit. The "gates of hell" and all that...
Anonymous
>>14325787 Yes, I agree with this also. But Santa Claus as a bearded man who delivers presents to children on Christmas morning is a relatively recent development. It could be part of the falling away from the Church. But either way, it cannot be said to be pagan. Is it even possible to say that it is uniquely Catholic either? It sounds like a marketing ploy the devil thought up. I guess Christian children will have to overcome the issue and learn and grow from it, until we can do away with the practice or replace it with something less destructive.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:00:07 No. 14325832 Report >>14325824 Also, this world is evil. A friend of the world is at enmity with God. We should expect nothing else but evil from this world. And we will be persecuted.
God is not a genie. If he does not grant us what we ask for, it is because it is our best interest to not have that granted. That is the gift. Sometimes the persecution is what is in our best interest in regard to eternity. This life is but a vapor.
Anonymous
>>14325828 A true gift to evil, surely -- the inverse of Matthew 7:11.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:01:15 No. 14325835 Report >>14325830 >Have you read about the Pornocracy? I haven't but if you are suggesting it I will certainly remedy that.
Anonymous
>>14325726 The jesuits run the Vatican now. They are punishment to the world for the protestant reformation and all of our sinning. The only way to defeat them is to come back to the church and smoke them out with the holy spirit
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:02:37 No. 14325837 Report >>14325833 Well think of it in terms of Jesus's crucifixion. The people that crucified him were evil. And Jesus asked for that cup to be taken from him. It was not granted. But I also shouldn't have to explain why the crucifixion was so important and in the end was what was necessary. It was the greater benefit. And it does not absolve those who did the crucifying.
Anonymous
>>14325829 She's not who we pray to, pagan, nor is she the Queen of Heaven. The Holy Spirit is who we pray to and is the true Queen_of_Heaven.
>Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. Mary was a mere tool The Holy Spirit used, that's it. The Holy Spirit is The Queen of Heaven.
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>>14325831 St. Nick was a real saint. It would be nice to learn more about him
Anonymous
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>>14325808 Nope. I wasn't in the other thread. Just wandered into this one.
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>>14325838 We ask for her prayers. The rosary is direct from scripture. She is top saint. Her miracles are real. 75k Portuguese did not lie about the miracle of the sun at Fatima. Read revelation 12. That's her.
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>>14325836 Your church was NEVER legitimate in the 1st place, the Orthodox Church has an argument for legitimacy but the 11th century Papacy does not.
But the Jesuits are truly a curse on the world...
Anonymous
>>14325837 We're not the son of God who saw His omnipotent power in person, anon.
>>14325832 I used to speak like that
>be grateful regardless >in the future it'll make sense I just can't anymore; I'd be lying to myself.
Anonymous
Worship of Mary is part of mystery Babylon. Semiramis was called the queen of heaven. She went for her dead son Tammuz for 40 days. The Catholics celebrate this as lent. Catholicism is not Christianity.
Anonymous
>>14325835 I'll warn you - it probably won't help you to like the Catholic Church any better...
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>>14325838 Who's We? What are you some protestant hillbilly? Read Matthew 26-26-28 it's the instructions for the mass. You have to attend mass to follow Christ's. Instructions.
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>>14325725 >Source that they are pagan Monks, nuns, and monasteries we're all taken from Buddhism. And praying to the saints and Mary is just replacing the Roman gods with the saints. Even a lot of catholics pray to a certain saint fir certain things. Like if you're sick pray to this saint, exactly like pagans would do
>Do you or any other Protestant you know ever celebrate Father's Day, or refer to your father as 'father', or 'Dad', as they are synonyms Well he meant something by it, dumbass, you're just making it of none effect. Like he also says to to call someone master, but obviously if you're a servant you would call your actual master master, but you're not to call a spiritual leader master.
and one for you, explain pic related with you teaching bishop celibacy
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>>14325725 watch this gospel video if you are not yet 100% sure of going to heaven anons
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:08:37 No. 14325850 Report >>14325844 But we are also commanded to pick up our cross and walk with it. That means we are going to go through these things. We are going to want things lifted off our shoulders that cannot be of our intention is holiness.
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>>14325725 For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
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>>14325844 >omnipotent power kek I meant omnipotence
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>>14325774 download the 4chan X extension and toggle 'werk tyme' in the settings so it hides all the images on 4chan (you can switch it on and off in threads). Thats what I do because theres too much porn on this board nowadays and I still want to browse for threads like this otherwise I would have given up on 4chan long ago.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:10:18 No. 14325854 Report >>14325846 That's alright, would be better to know it than to not. St. Paisios is an orthodox who I've read a lot of. He probably would not even share dinner with me but I found him very insightful. He had a very humble way about him that I found inspiring.
Anonymous
>>14325843 The proof is in the exorcism. Only priests can do them. Ortho has valid sacraments I don't deny that. You need valid sacraments from the apostolic line. The proof is when you Confess your sins and the priests absolves you, when the priest does exorcism and consecrates the eucharist into the body of Christ as per Christ's instructions Corinthians 11 23 -30
Anonymous
>>14325816 You should read of the life of St. Padre Pio. Any Catholic who knows of his life will tell you that the Church can, and often does, very wicked things to the most saintly of all. That's the devil, and he has a lot of power, as God allows him, as it really shows who is truly saintly.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:11:16 No. 14325857 Report >>14325854 My meaning here is that If there is value in something then I'm not going to neglect it regardless of Catholic or Orthodox.
Anonymous
>>14325850 >We are going to want things lifted off our shoulders that cannot be of our intention is holiness. So we're back to square one -- why would God make his colombian anon go through all that when He said
>Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you >If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Anon is already doing his part, struggling with something the world imposes on him nonstop
Anonymous
>>14325845 Or maybe it has something to do with
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A2&version=KJV Mystery Babylon / Osirian Paganism / Luciferianism is definitely a thing, it's just not this thing.
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catholics also changed the 10 commandments to get rid of the not making any idols. And then just split the 10th into 2, even though the not coveting your neighbor's house comes before wife, so I'd go
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>>14325858 You have to Confess first. Prayers have no efficacy without a good confession first
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:13:07 No. 14325863 Report Quoted By:
>>14325856 Yeah my favorite pope lived in a cave and just wanted to be kind of left alone in his meditation in God. One day he wrote a letter to the Vatican saying that it was angering God that they would not pick a pope. I want to say practical joke they selected him then. You did not want to go but he believed it to be God's will so he gave it a shot. Being a truly holy man he did not get along with the leadership in Rome at the time and ended up being the first one to step down. You just wanted to go back to his cave. His successor, unfortunately imprisoned him instead because he feared that it would create a schism and Catholics would instead follow him. So he died in a dark dingy dungeon. The new Pope was perhaps one of the most evil men to ever walk the earth when you read his story...
Anonymous
>>14325731 Catholicism and Islam are both bad. Not one worse than the other.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:14:16 No. 14325866 Report >>14325858 Well Matthew 7 is under the pretense that your utmost prerogative is the will of God. So of course God would not grant something that does not his will. This would already be understood when reading Matthew 7. What if it is in alignment with his will he will grant it. This is where it becomes important to keep in mind the whole council of God instead of a few lines.
Anonymous
>>14325855 If the Catholic church was satanic as i believe it would make sense that priests could also banish demons... by the power of their master...
And its not true that catholics are the only ones either...
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>>14325862 I'm sure colombian anon confesses, but if he didnt, surely a confession & honest repentance in prayer to God would sufice, no?
Anonymous
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>>14325827 Where is that found in the bible?
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>>14325725 Christianity is more Jewish than Judaism
Anonymous
>>14325862 Why can't you just confess straight to God? It says he will forgive you if you ask, nit that you have to go through a priest
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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>>14325725 And the jew worshipping nigger lover spam continues. Stop spamming this shit about your evil god. Take your evil somewhere else, it sure don't belong here
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:16:20 No. 14325873 Report >>14325864 It's more apples to oranges. I would say Catholicism is less dangerous, spiritually. Catholicism gets a whole lot right. Islam will tell you that you're wearing a scale around your neck or you have to balance the good and the evil. The god of Islam even declares himself to be the greatest deceiver. In the Bible, who is the greatest deceiver?
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>>14325740 Better question: Where in The Bible does it say to celebrate The LORD Christ's human birthday?
>>14325743 Imagine thinking that the one weapon that we have to use against darkness has stood unchanged for ~2000 years, despite the fact that darkness has run the world for the entirety of it's existence.
Anonymous
>>14325866 I know, and that's always the reasoning (read: excuse) given for His passivity
>well, it wasn't in His will to do so Maybe you've seen Him working his miracles on your life and are sure of it, but many like me didn't and thus faith dwindled.
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>>14325857 I guess it depends how you look at it. On the one hand, it's an account of how essentially Satanic practices were carried out by, or in the name of, the Bishops of Rome. On the other I find it a peculiar kind of vindication, in as much as the material validity of the temporal Church has no bearing on the spiritual aspect.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:18:32 No. 14325877 Report Quoted By:
I think a lot of what this comes down to is James 3:1. Teachers will face a harsher judgment. So if you're not a teacher and you are involved in Catholicism, or protestantism or whatever your belief may be, if you are earnestly seeking after God truly thirsting for righteousness, you will be filled. God judges according to our understanding. But for the teachers it's a different story.
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>>14325867 Priests have free will. The devil spends all his energy trying to corrupt and seduce priests to do evil. It's been in the church since judas. The devil gives power to those who destroy the church from within. It's because it's the only path to salvation. God allows it because everyone abandoned the church. It's your problem. You need to find a good priest and confess your sins. These are the end times. You've been warned
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:19:26 No. 14325879 Report >>14325875 Well first we have to make sure we are right with God. The Bible tells us he will not hear the prayers of the wicked. He will only begin to hear your prayers when you have a broken and controlled heart. Broken over your sin and desire for righteousness. He who thirsts for righteousness will be filled. If that's not one's motive, God may not be paying attention.
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>>14325865 Quran is just shabby plagiarism. Kadija and waraqua were Muhammad's spiritual directors and they were Catholics working under directives from Rome.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:19:45 No. 14325881 Report Quoted By:
>>14325879 Broken and contrite* heart.
Anonymous
>>14325873 That's debatable. I assume you're talking about Ba'al / Baphomet / Satan? The Serpent. Have you ever zoomed out and looked at the bigger part of the picture of the (anti)pope's throne? You can't be more evil than pure evil. I feel they're equal.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:21:03 No. 14325883 Report >>14325875 Also I want to make sure you understand that when Matthew 7 talks about good gifts for even the wicked, it is talking about the rain and food and life itself. It's not talking about granted requests. It's talking about how the rain falls on both of the holy and the wicked. How the wicked don't starve to death.
Anonymous
>>14325871 You can make an act of perfect contrition on your own however you do not know whether it is perfect or not in God's eyes so potentially your prayers could have no merit and you could be still in a state of mortal sin. Confession helps with this because all you have to be is sorry enough to go to the confessional (merely worried about going to hell for example) for the priest to absolve you and you to do penance for your sins to be forgiven. There is also a healing grace given from the sacrement as well that is applied to help keep you from sinning again so if you struggle with a certain vice then going frequently is recommended.
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>>14325882 I might add that it's a 3 way tie with the fake jews for who is the most evil.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:22:16 No. 14325886 Report >>14325882 Well Satan has a lot of workers to work iniquity for him. Just because the God of Islam appears to be Satan does not mean that is only as far as Satan has spread his reach.
And from what I understand, is not the church supposed to be taken over by evil in the end days?
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>>14325867 >If the Catholic church was satanic as i believe it would make sense that priests could also banish demons... by the power of their master... literally impossible, Jesus Himself was accused of this in the bible. He said that a house divided cannot stand and that the demonic cannot cast out the demonic.
Anonymous
>>14325886 >is not the church supposed to be taken over by evil in the end days? It already has. The modern church is no longer the Bride of The LORD Christ. It's been that way my entire life.
Anonymous
>>14325884 >however you do not know whether it is perfect or not in God's eyes so potentially your prayers could have no merit Lol, what. So God is just going to say no to you for asking for forgiveness? And the Bible says that we already have a mediator, Jesus
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:25:24 No. 14325890 Report >>14325884 I would disagree here with the priest middleman. The apostles did have the power to forgive sins, granted to them by Jesus. But there's no indication that this moved beyond them.
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>>14325889 And yet, The LORD Christ Himself said to pray to the Father.
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>>14325865 >May Saint John Baptist protect Islam Yeah, so popes say questionable stuff sometimes. A whole bunch of it, I downright disagree with. There have been evil popes. Unless something is dogmatically proclaimed / ex cathedra, then it's not a big deal. The teaching is that the Holy Spirit protects the Deposit of Faith.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:26:36 No. 14325893 Report >>14325888 It depends what you mean with church though. It gets a little shaky here because technically the word church just means the body of Christians following Christ. That church will always prevail. But there's certainly a lot of thorns in the church at this point.
Anonymous
>>14325879 We're only human. I prayed for help, for a second chance and even tried to forgive those who screwed me over. Was there anger in me, doubt or even fear? Ofc it was, life taught me that good things dont came to those who do good -- but I still try to do good regardless. I even asked Him for a sign but to no avail. His passivity being blamed on the doubt, etc. of His subjects' prayers seems to be a cop out
>>14325883 That's your reading. For me it means that the sons of evil get gifts but the sons of good get better ones
Anonymous
>>14325889 yes. If you ask merely for escape of punishment from your sins rather than because you truly believe you have offended the perfect purity of the divine and infinite being that is our Lord, then yes he will not accept your attempt at apologising.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrition >>14325890 The apostles were the first bishops who then laid on hands and passed such authority to forgive sins down through apostolic succession of the church.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:28:52 No. 14325896 Report >>14325894 >>14325894 >For me it means that the sons of evil get gifts but the sons of good get better ones God's ears are closed to the prayer of the wicked” (1 Peter 3:12)
You have to understand that with this context. If God will not hear a prayer obviously he is not granting it. So Matthew 7 has to mean the things that fall on all of us like the rain.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:29:46 No. 14325897 Report Quoted By:
>>14325895 >apostolic succession of the church. This is where it gets shaky for me. I don't believe there's an indication that this succession means the powers the apostles were granted were then given to others. But even if it does mean that, there's no way of knowing that this succession did not go out with someone labeled an antipope. Novation, for example.
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>>14325882 >Ba'al Which one?
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>>14325725 Ya I dont care cathocuck freak. Youre wrong and youre trying to control me.
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>>14325878 Checked
>You need to find a good priest How ..?
Anonymous
The catholics have always been lying. Luther didn't argue enough against them.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:33:18 No. 14325902 Report >>14325901 Luther didn't seem to worry about the gravity of sin. It's a real problem in his theology.
Anonymous
>>14325893 It's bigger than thorns. It's a spiritual rift between Father GOD and His creation. Man has put it there himself. Assuming that The Bible were truly uncorruptable, and every word solid, we've broken the 1st Commandment so many times that it's become a running gag.
We literally sit our children in the lap of the modern day representation of Moloch and have them make wishes that this supposedly omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, immortal being will grant... if they behave. We allow this pagan symbol of blaspheme to sit in our congregations, and adorn our homes. We take pictures of our kids sitting in his lap.
We allow our children to participate in pagan rituals: Halloween, Easter just to name two more.
Our very institutions of faith have been taken over by those who completely contradict the Word of Father GOD.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:34:24 No. 14325904 Report >>14325903 I think this is spot on and Jesus would be saying the exact same thing if he was preaching in the street corner right now.
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>>14325895 Perfect vs imperfect contrition there
Anonymous
>>14325896 But the children of evil here are those of John 8:44's your father the devil -- he gives them the gifts mentioned in Matthew 7:11. Not God -- God gives to His children better ones
Anonymous
>>14325902 Yes he did, wtf are you pulling out of your dumbass?
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:37:26 No. 14325908 Report >>14325906 Yes the rain falls on them as well. The rain falls on all workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5 even says God hates all workers of iniquity. But they are still allowed to live. Gift. They have the rain fall on them as well. Gift. They enjoy the rising sun. Gift.
But we know this does not mean he grants them their requests because he does not hear their prayers.
Anonymous
>>14325904 Thank you. However, I would rather see The LORD Christ whipping the thieves :)
Anonymous
>>14325907 Look at this hothead
Anonymous
>>14325910 Sin boldly, retard.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:39:18 No. 14325912 Report >>14325907 Well he said you could commit adultery a thousand times a day and it wouldn't separate you from God.
Anonymous
>>14325907 >>14325911 Anyone who says the blasphemous things that Martin Luther said is definitely in hell. Anyone who follows the teachings of Martin Luther will also end up in hell.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:39:51 No. 14325914 Report Quoted By:
>>14325909 You sound like a man after Tertullian.
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>>14325726 God doesn’t hate those who follow him
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>>14325913 Evangelicals and cathocucks are fuckin terrible scumbags. You trying to speak for god right now? You sound like a jew
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:41:03 No. 14325918 Report >>14325915 Well the Bible says that he who says 'I know Jesus' but does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.
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>>14325725 >2 protestants have a disagreement over Christ's teaching >They can't come to an agreement and call each other heretics And they're both correct.
Anonymous
>>14325918 So when you slip up youll tell me, right? Youll let everyone know? How much good have you brought into this world?
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>>14325781 >f Christ really was born in December, as those who were close to him claimed, According to John, the author of Revelation, Jesus was born on September 11th, 3 B.C. This is the only time around the birth of Christ that the signs in the skyline up (Rev 12)
Anonymous
>>14325908 Oh well, thanks for trying to clarify this stuff anyway. If you find it in your schedule I ask you to pray and put in a good word from me fren, seeing as I'm lost rn.
Psst, God, that 2nd chance would do wonders ;)
Anonymous
>>14325911 No thanks, Satan.
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>>14325923 Satan doesn't sin boldly you shithead. Hes a coward.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:45:06 No. 14325925 Report >>14325920 Well slipping up should be an exception not a rule. If someone is committing adultery a thousand times in a day, I would say it's impossible that they actually had their heart set on not sinning. This is much different than say somebody who's a drug user and has their heart to stop doing the drugs but goes back to them a thousand times in a day or something like that. It is the heart that matters. And Luther clearly did not understand his goal should have been to try and get the sin out of his life. Not Tell people it's okay to sin.
Anonymous
>>14325859 Uh yes it absolutely is. The popes title is pontifex Maximus, do you know why? It was the title of the high priest of the Babylonians, translated into Latin as pontifex maximus. This was the title taken by Julius Caesar, and then by Constantine before being granted to the pope. It is literally the title of the high priest of mystery Babylon. Catholicism is satanic. Repent, and accept Christ's work as perfect.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:45:38 No. 14325927 Report Quoted By:
>>14325922 Absolutely anon, of course. Good discussion. God bless. We must endure to the end.
Anonymous
>>14325884 No merit? God calls his people to be a NATION of priests. Every Christian is a priest. The only heirarchy is us to Jesus to the father
Anonymous
Eh maybe Lutheranism just ain't for everybody. Those who are too stupid might just need to be controlled at the brainstem.
>>14325925 No one can commit adulatory "1000 times a day." Try not to think in such fantastical extremes....oh wait, you cant. The more you, a man, tells me why I'm going to hell, the more ill shut you out. What will you have left to yell at? Trannys? Fags? Niggers? Have fun dude.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:48:23 No. 14325930 Report >>14325928 I will say that I agree with you until you get to some of Paul's stuff. He does talk about assembly overseers or bishops and deacons and the requirements to be in these positions. While I don't think it establishes a hierarchy like the Catholic Church has, I also don't see a complete neglect of hierarchy.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:48:59 No. 14325931 Report Quoted By:
>>14325929 Jesus said in the sermon on the Mount that you shall no false teachers by their fruit. Look at what you're typing here. Examine your disposition.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:50:34 No. 14325932 Report Quoted By:
>>14325929 Also, Jesus spoke on hell and damnation more than anything else. It was his number one topic. And all I'm doing is relaying the message. His message, not mine.
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>>14325930 Post the verses because you're wrong
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>>14325725 >Source Read Two Babylons.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:52:13 No. 14325935 Report >>14325933 1 Timothy 3 goes over it
>This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a [a]bishop, he desires a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not given to wine, not violent, [c]not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not [d]covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a [e]novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the (A)snare of the devil. Anonymous
>>14325935 This is only stating that representatives in the church must live correctly to be leaders, it does not in any way promote the heirarchy enshrined by Catholics who do not follow scripture and only use clips to help support their religion
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:54:29 No. 14325937 Report Quoted By:
>>14325936 Well like I said, I don't think the Catholic hierarchy is biblical either. I'm just saying there are deacons and there are bishops, that alone are two different positions so a hierarchy is there.
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>>14325926 It means "great bridge builder" and was a title for pre-Christian high priests in Rome then, adopted by emperors. They brought it back for the Pope in the 1400s because late medieval/early renaissance Europe thought Roman stuff was cool. See Virgil in La Divina Commedia or the idea of his Eclogues prefiguring Christ.
Or maybe it was the Masons because who builds bridges amirite? Spooky.
Bill Cooper got a bunch of stuff right and then missed quite a few tricks. The bad guys are definitely within the Church. That doesn't define its doctrine.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA ID:TFfSi4dF Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:57:12 No. 14327296 Report Awww finally jannied. At least we got the good one who doesn't just straight up delete.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA ID:TFfSi4dF Fri 21 Jan 2022 00:58:02 No. 14327303 Report Quoted By:
>>14327297 Yes. Well, good speaking with you.
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>>14327296 Wholesome thread anon. Well done for being so patient. God bless.
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Between Cell Towers, ID Changes !RJBMyjgnAA ID:TFfSi4dF Fri 21 Jan 2022 01:00:01 No. 14327322 Report Quoted By:
>>14327308 God bless. Back to you as well. Nothing that a little edifying discussion can't help. Even Protestants and Catholics can get along for such moments.
