>>14351224No, I've done templates, assembly, C with pointers, and plenty more. C++ is just really that bad. I'm pretty sure Stroustrup created it as a prank to see just how much stupid shit he could convince other programmers that they had to do because it was supposed the best in some vague abstract, conceptual sense. And then Java came along and said, "well, it's the best, so we'll do it BETTER! Then WE'LL be the standard language! (rubs merchant hands)"