Phonecia
>>1470758 >Phonecia >purple >tunisia Anonymous
Roman Republic
Quoted By:
>>1470758 Roman Republic
Red
Central Italy
United States Navy
>>1470758 United States Navy
Blue
America
United States
Quoted By:
>>1470858 Shit, slight name change
OPol
Quoted By:
I'll wait for one player more
Nonefoundland
Quoted By:
>>1470758 Nonefoundland
Any Color
Newfoundland
Ottoman Empire !uOtWeyMW7Y
Ottoman Empire !uOtWeyMW7Y ID:uwlDVE3z Tue 18 Jul 2017 18:28:51 No. 1470888 Report Quoted By:
>>1470758 Ottoman Empire
Green
Turkey
OPol
Turn 0
Ottoman Empire !uOtWeyMW7Y
Ottoman Empire !uOtWeyMW7Y ID:uwlDVE3z Tue 18 Jul 2017 18:33:52 No. 1470987 Report >>1470921 Army: Fill Turkey
Navy: Fill Crete and Cyprus
Am I doing this right?
Roman Republic
Nonefoundland
Quoted By:
>>1470921 Fill all of Canada
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1470987 First you have to build one with your construction points that you get by getting more land
>>1470921 THE 10 TILE FIGURE MAY VARY
United States
>>1470921 Army:fill US
Navy: save construction points
Is that right?
I propose an NAP with New Foundland
Phonecia
>>1470921 go east and fill north africa
Nonefoundland
OPol
Waiting for Phonecia
>>1470776 Phonecia
>>1471019 >>1471000 i already rolled for north africa
United States
OPol
OPol
Ottoman Empire !uOtWeyMW7Y
Ottoman Empire !uOtWeyMW7Y ID:uwlDVE3z Tue 18 Jul 2017 18:42:19 No. 1471043 Report >>1471035 Fill Turkey and spill to Greece
United States
Quoted By:
>>1471035 Army: fill US
Navy: Construct a cargo ship
Nonefoundland
>>1471035 Continue filling Canada
And btw do I have 1 Construction point now?
Roman Republic
Quoted By:
>>1471035 Army Take Italy
Navy:construct Cargo Ship
Greek poster
Quoted By:
> Grand Greece >Yellow > Greece
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471049 Yeah, I do think so
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1471035 mossad
suriname
any color
Phonecia CP: 3
Phonecia CP:
Quoted By:
>>1471080 also build destroyer in Gibraltar strait
OPol
Turn 2
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1471106 fill south america
United States
>>1471106 Army: fill US spill Canada
Navy: Sail to Cuba
Nonefoundland CP = 2
Quoted By:
>>1471106 Continue filling Canada
Roman Republic (Cp 1)
>>1471106 Army: Take Northern Italy
Navy Save CPs
United States +5 C
>>1471116 With this role, I believe I will have 5 construction points next turn, is that accurate OP?
Greek poster
Quoted By:
Keep moving north
Roman Republic (Cp 1)
Quoted By:
>>1471122 Navy:Keep Building Ship
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471125 One more than you had last turn for sure
Anonymous
Can somebody give me a quick rundown on how to play this?
Phonecia CP: 2
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1471141 you take territories, once you have enough you build boats
Greek poster +1 constract
Greek poster +1 constract ID:25NzZEV4 Tue 18 Jul 2017 18:58:18 No. 1471155 Report >>1471141 I am not so sure either check the rules.
It's my first time playing a RISK game
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471141 Even I don't really know this, don't worry
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471155 Oh shit, you definitely chose wrong one to start with
Waiting for Ottoman
>>1471043 OPol
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1471178 fill south america
United States +5 C
>>1471178 Army: Fill US spill Canada
Navy: Sail to Cuba and annex
OPol
>>1471191 One order per ship per turn
Nonefoundland CP = 4
Quoted By:
>>1471178 Land = Finish Canada
Sea = Build Destroyer
United States +5 C
Quoted By:
>>1471195 Ok, so just sail to cuba
Greek poster +3 construct
Greek poster +3 construct ID:25NzZEV4 Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:04:44 No. 1471205 Report Land= Keep moving north
Roman Republic (Cp 1)
Quoted By:
>>1471178 Army Take Southern France and Sicily
Navy Finish Construction
Phonecia CP: 4
Quoted By:
>>1471178 fill western france
Greek poster
>>1471205 I checked the rules again and looks like i have no CP sorry .
OPol
Turn 4
>>1471229 Good that you tell me that, I would not notice really
mossad Ө +3 cp
Quoted By:
>>1471238 fill south america, build destroyer
United States +5 C
Quoted By:
>>1471238 Army: defend first if necessary, if not attacked fill unclaimed Canada
Navy: annex cuba
Nonefoundland CP = 2
Quoted By:
>>1471238 Land = Finish Canada
Sea = Sail to Britian
Roman Republic (Cp 1)
>>1471238 Army: Take France Do not Invade
navy: Make Landfall in Sardinia
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471238 fill the levant spill into green
Greek poster
Conquer Constantinoupole!
Phonecia CP: 7
Quoted By:
>>1471260 also build destroyer in english channel
Greek poster
Quoted By:
>>1471270 Or even all turkey
Nonefoundland CP = 2
I have to go guys, so therefore I give my land and ship to America :)
United States +5 C
Quoted By:
>>1471332 Thanks senpai, but I don't know if quit ceding is allowed
OPol
Turn 5
>>1471255 It had to move first
>>1471332 No quitcedeing, I'll just leave you inactive
Phonecia CP: 4
>>1471345 take britain
and build destroyer in Mediterranean
United States +6C
>>1471345 Army: fill Cuba and Canada
Navy: sail to Mexican peninsula and construct a battle ship
Greek poster
Quoted By:
Finish the job with turkey and then move north east
mossad Ө +1
Quoted By:
>>1471345 >>1471345 fill south america
Roman Republic (Cp 5)
Quoted By:
>>1471345 Army" Head into Germany
Navy:Make Landfall in Sardinia
Navy: Begin work on Battleship
OPol
>>1471358 You cannot, it's destroyer, it doesn't have any landfill abillities
United States +6C
>>1471360 OP, once I build my battle ship do my construction points go back to null?
Phonecia CP: 4
>>1471371 ok just fill britain then
what are landfill abilities?
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471382 I actually don't know
Do what you think is best
Believe me, this game will be interesting
>>1471394 Look at the rules, you have written what every ship do, destroyer cannot attack land, cargo ship fr example can
United States +6C
Quoted By:
>>1471394 Destroyers have no landfill abilities
OPol
>>1471394 You cannot fill britain, it's behind english chanell and destroyers cannot attack land
What to do then?
Phonecia CP: 4
>>1471426 build destroyer then colonize england
Phonecia CP: 4
OPol
>>1471443 You mean a cargo ship?
Still it can atack next turn, what should your land army do?
Phonecia CP: 1
OPol
mossad Ө +1
>>1471475 quickly conquer all of this territory in pic
spills south america
Phonecia CP: 1
Greek poster +1 c
Quoted By:
Move northeast.
United States +2C
Quoted By:
>>1471475 I think we should Reset our construction points after we build a ship so I now have 2 C I believe
Army: fill Canada
Navy: cargo ship annex Orange
Battleship sail to Cuba
Roman Republic (Cp 6)
>>1471475 Army:Head north in Germany
Navy: Send cargo Ship to corsica
Navy:continue Battleship Construction
mossad Ө +1
>>1471507 Could you send a ship over here? blue is attacking me
United States +2C
Quoted By:
>>1471514 Come on schlomo, were just messing around, isn't that right mein freund?
mossad Ө +1
>>1471475 sail my battleship over to attack blues
OPol
>>1471507 Where do you want it to be?
The battleship
mossad Ө +1
>>1471530 I was attacked after I posted my roll
>>1471489 so this is allowed right?
Roman Republic (Cp 6)
Roman Republic (Cp 6)
OPol
>>1471535 Yeah, why not, I'd probably would do it otherwise
>>1471530 >battleship It's a destroyer to clarify
mossad Ө +1
Phonecia CP: 3
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:47:31 No. 1471571 Report Quoted By:
OPol
Turn 7
mossad Ө +1
>>1471584 defend land, spills fill south america,
attack the ship
OPol
>>1471584 Shit, I damaged wrong unit, sorry, will change in next update
mossad Ө +1
>>1471590 YES 0. the ship is destroyed right?
United States +2C
Quoted By:
>>1471584 Army: Expand South American claims
Navy: Cargo ship moves two spaces west
Battleship sails and attacks kike's destroyer
Phonecia CP: 3
Quoted By:
>>1471584 take britain and ireland spill in africa
move destroyer from english channel to bay of biscay
move cargo to norway
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471594 Attacks done by ships are determined by tens digits
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:51:32 No. 1471602 Report >>1471584 Army Expand in Britain
Navy:Send Cargo ship to the islands by Spain
Navy:Begin Work on Aircraft Carrier
United States +2C
>>1471593 Hey wait OP, how did his ship move3 spaces? I though destroyer could only move 2?
Greek poster +2 c
Quoted By:
Keep marching north
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471602 are you attacking me?
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:53:38 No. 1471621 Report >>1471616 No the islands in the mediteranian they are unclaimed
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471621 yeah but you said expand in britain
mossad Ө +1
>>1471616 >>1471602 Could one of you please help me? if 2 people attack america we beat him
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 19:54:50 No. 1471632 Report Quoted By:
>>1471625 >>1471602 ARMY: I MENT GERMANY
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>1471627 Stop being such a bitch and fight your own fights
Phonecia CP: 5
mossad Ө +1
>>1471651 I promise it will be worth your time. He is an aggressor that will attack you too
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1471606 Look closely, destroyer is quicker
Anonymous
>>1471662 Typical kike trying to lie
>>1471651 You want the truth of the matter, In only putting the Monroe doctrine in practice and claiming the Western Hemisphere as rightful American clay, if I had any intentions of fucking with you I would have sailed my cargo ship into South Africa and set up base already
mossad Ө +1
>>1471674 >>1471651 Do not believe him, he will attack me, then you, then rome and greece. You need him gone
OPol
Turn 8
mossad Ө +1
Quoted By:
>>1471688 dubs proves I am right
mossad Ө +1
>>1471690 army, defend and fill south america
navy, run away from battleship
OPol
>>1471699 Where it should retreat though?
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:03:32 No. 1471712 Report >>1471690 Army:Take more France and Germany up to the coast
Navy Continue construction and Cargo sip to the island
United States +2C
Quoted By:
>>1471690 Army: annex more Canada
Navy: cargo ship sails back to Cuba immediately for repairs
Battleship attacks destroyer
Greek poster +2 c
Keep moving north till we reach Varkhalla!!!!!!!
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471690 expand in west africa
move cargo to ireland
Greek poster +2 c
Quoted By:
>>1471714 Damn the cold is making my progress slower but i shall not give up!
mossad Ө +1
Quoted By:
>>1471711 anywhere away from the battleship
United States +2C
mossad Ө +1
Quoted By:
>>1471724 my battleship remains unscathed
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471712 feel free to use the english channel as a port to the atlanticif you need to
OPol
mossad Ө +1
>>1471738 please consider sending something, even a destroyer would help me
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471741 yeah dock it on the west coast of ireland
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:08:13 No. 1471747 Report Quoted By:
>>1471738 I can just pass through Gibraltar straights if i need to
United States +2C
Quoted By:
>>1471742 Stop being such a goddamn pussy and fight.
Stop asking for help like a bitch, fight your own fucking fight and stop trying to pull others into OUR conflict like the greasy little yid you are. It only makes me want to erradicate you more
mossad Ө +6
United States +2C
>>1471762 You do not have 6
OPol
>>1471712 Where do you want this carrier?
Phonecia CP: 5
Quoted By:
>>1471744 also send destroyer #1 to west coast of africa
mossad Ө +5
>>1471766 Count it and -30t then nigga
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 6){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:12:07 No. 1471784 Report Quoted By:
>>1471774 By Italy of course
mossad Ө +5
Quoted By:
>>1471777 holy trips proove I am right
Anonymous
>>1471762 >fake +6 >mossad >actually american this faggot needs to be eradicated from all risk threads
mossad Ө +5
>>1471788 Count my territories -30t then if you dont believe me
United States +2C
>>1471777 I did count your Ts
You have well under 60, minus 30 still ain't 60
United States +2C
>>1471795 You don't have 5 either at best you have 3 stop trying to jew the game
mossad Ө +5
>>1471798 how many do I have then?
mossad Ө +5
Quoted By:
>>1471809 >>1471806 say the exact number goy
OPol
Turn 9
Phonecia CP: 5
>>1471809 you have 50T which = 5 cp
subract the destroyer 3cp
you have 2cp
mossad Ө +6
>>1471813 I should have +6 now for real due to dubs, build battleship in suriname, fill south america, destroyer runs away
United States +3C
Quoted By:
>>1471813 Construct a destroyer in Cuba
Army: annex more Canada
Navy: repair cargo ship
Battle ship chase and kill destroyer
Greek poster +2 c
Keep moving north
mossad Ө +4
Quoted By:
>>1471883 >>1471880 ok nevermind, I have 4t apperently. dont build anything
United States +3C
Quoted By:
>>1471883 Filthy fucking heeb
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:18:25 No. 1471891 Report Quoted By:
>>1471813 Army: Keep Expanding in Netherlands and Germany Spills Austria
Navy Cargo Ship make landfall at that unclaimed island Begin Construction on another Battleship to be launched into the Adriatic
Phonecia CP: 5
Quoted By:
>>1471813 fill west africa
move destroyer #1 to west africa and cargo to north atlantic ocean
Greek poster +2 c
>>1471888 I am blissed by kek
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:21:25 No. 1471908 Report Greek poster +2 c
Quoted By:
>>1471908 Yes I know that this is a pic of pepe
mossad Ө +5
Quoted By:
ALRIGHT I NOW KNOW HOW MANY TERRITORIES I HAVE
mossad Ө +5
>>1471896 Could you please send a ship over here to attack the united states? He is a bad goyim
Greek poster +2 c
>>1471934 Sorry i do not have enought points to create one
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:27:00 No. 1471939 Report Quoted By:
>>1471934 Stop asking for Europe's Help we don't Care
Greek poster +2 c
mossad Ө +5
Quoted By:
>>1471938 you just got trips, you now have a +5 next round.
OPol
Turn 10
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 2){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:28:05 No. 1471948 Report >>1471940 If he thinks he could invade Europe than the USA is retarded
mossad Ө +6
Quoted By:
>>1471944 destroyer go up into the ocean and run.
build battleship in suriname
United States +3C
Quoted By:
>>1471944 Army: Annex Canada
Navy :Destroyer kills enemy destroyer
Battleship chases ankills destroyer
Cargo ship sails for SA continent
Phonecia CP: 6
>>1471944 fill more africa
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:29:35 No. 1471957 Report >>1471944 Army:Take Austria and Netherlands Spills Northern Germany
Navy: Delete the Cargo Ship Continue construction
Greek poster +5c
Create a destroyer and conquer the rest of scandinavia
Phonecia CP: 6
>>1471957 you should give it to mossad and let them continue fighting for our amusement
United States +1C
>>1471948 Changing C points
I was never the one suggesting and or planning a European invasion, it was all the imagination of this goddamn kike
At any rate, I'll have to leave soon to go to the (((dentist))) so if you or purple want to start moving over here that'd be cool, you can annex NA so long as you kill this fucking kike
mossad Ө +6
Quoted By:
>>1471953 >>1471957 just one ship, please I need this. He is your greatest enemy
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:31:47 No. 1471974 Report >>1471965 >>1471948 Sure give him the cargo ship i don't want it
mossad Ө +6
Quoted By:
>>1471974 Thank you. we will win the fight against the aggressors. despite his lies he does intend to invade Europe. Just like he invaded south america
mossad Ө +6
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:37:06 No. 1472011 Report >>1471963 >>1471953 >>1471957 Should we create a European Alliance?
Greek poster +5c
>>1472011 Yeah sure y not?
OPol
>>1471963 This destroyer
Mediterreaen or Baltic sea?
Greek poster +5c
OPol
Turn 11
American destroyer finally caught up to mossad's one
Although mossad was just supported by the romans with a ship, not entioning his brand new battleship
>>1472029 I hope that you accept this placement
Phonecia CP: 6
>>1472011 >>1472019 Sure, lets have a berlin conference where instead of partitioning africa we partition the new world, What do you say?
mossad Ө +6
>>1472029 defend in land
attack the blue ship 2 with orange 1
orange cargo goes to west
Greek poster +5c
>>1472047 I am pleased thank you.
Now fill the eastern parts parts of europe and the rest of scandinavia
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:45:30 No. 1472067 Report >>1472047 army:Expand in Austria and Netherlands Spills Germany/Poland
Navy Begin Construction of new Carrier In southern France
mossad Ө +6
>>1472051 I'd be happy to give up my ships to be a vassal. anything for protection
Phonecia CP: 7
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1472047 >>1472061 also send my new battleship to attack blue ship 2.
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:46:49 No. 1472076 Report Greek poster +5c
>>1472062 Also now i would normally have 6cp but i spent 3 for the destroyer so how many points do i have?
mossad Ө
>>1472083 i'll count it for you
Greek poster +5c
Quoted By:
After i conquer the rest of scandinavia and eastern europe i do not intend further war.
Phonecia CP: 7
>>1472069 there will be peace friend
>>1472076 any of u guys have dibs on the new world
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1472061 2? Do you mean 3? 2 is behind cuba, you won't get there in one turn
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:50:39 No. 1472103 Report Quoted By:
>>1472094 I call New England
OPol
mossad Ө
>>1472083 >>1472087 you have 86 t -30t for the ship
Greek poster +6c
Quoted By:
Let's have peace in europe
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:56:25 No. 1472142 Report >>1472116 I CALL THE US'S BATTLESHIP
Greek poster +6c
>>1472121 Actually i have 65 territories
Greek poster +6c
>>1472149 without touching the water
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1472149 my mistake, sorry goyim
OPol
>>1472142 You will play for US? You agreed on that?
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 20:59:26 No. 1472159 Report >>1472157 No just wanted to take his battleship if hes dead
Greek poster +6c
Quoted By:
>>1472155 But over all i have 91 teritories counting the water
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1472159 ok, let's say whole population of USA died of nail to the eye, you can have the ship then
OPol
WHO WANTS A SHIP FROM US?
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
Should we start negotiating for the land?
Phonecia CP: 7
>>1472182 gimme the destroyer!
OPol
>>1472216 Granted, next battleship
OPol
>>1472216 Wait, maybe you should negotiate between yourselves, who gets what
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:12:33 No. 1472275 Report Quoted By:
>>1472258 I already claimed that
Greek poster +6c
Quoted By:
>>1472264 I don't really care about the ships. I just want to conquer the rest of scandinavia and eastern europe and i am done
mossad Ө
is there 1 more round then peace?
mossad Ө
>>1472295 or is this the last round
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1472295 It depends on the players, I don't think so though
OPol
mossad Ө
I'll start making a peacemap
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1472322 No, wait, next update soon
Do you want the cargo ship from US?
Romans and purple got one each
Phonecia CP: 7
i gtg guys thanks OP this is the limit of my empire
OPol
Turn 12
>>1472341 So do we call it end here?
OPol
Quoted By:
>>1472346 If so, then turn 11 map is the right one to end there
Jimmy Carter
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:21:47 No. 1472366 Report >>1472346 Army Finish Germany and Netherlands/Poland
Navy Continue Construction and send battle ship back home
Greek poster +6c
>>1472346 Just a little more.
I want Cyprus and the rest of eastern europe
OPol
>>1472360 >>1472366 >>1472367 I think that phonecia left as well as USA
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:23:46 No. 1472381 Report Quoted By:
>>1472375 I call inherit land
Greek poster +6c
Quoted By:
Ok i think that i have enought.
OPol
I think we can go for something like that as end map
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia}
Roman Republic (Cp 4){Ally: Phonecia} ID:DsEnegMa Tue 18 Jul 2017 21:28:18 No. 1472413 Report Quoted By:
Greek poster +6c
OPol
Quoted By:
Even Newfoundland is at its place
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Next Risk when?
mossad Ө
OPol
>>1472445 What happened to your land?
I think that's
>>1472405 better
mossad Ө
Quoted By:
>>1472482 jews control the world anyway, I prefer israel
