>>14737181i don't see it as unfair. i see it as an ultimate goodness as i said. it's for the best that america falls. as a project, it has failed miserably. sure, it probably wasn't alone in this failure, but that hardly matters. what i think is unfair is how often people ignore the truth in favor of a fantasy, nationalism over reality. and i don't know that the oppressive ideals have changed in intensity, let's be honest. the ideals themselves have changed, but the pressure? doubtful. in whose hands is the future but the people who will crawl their way out of the wreckage? hopefully we might get it right, but i don't it will happen without the direct help of god. whether America can be a great enough satan to manifest the return of the messiah with his blazing sword is a completely different question. might just be a bit of hopeful hubris, there.