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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:12:33 No.14861289 View View Reply Original Report

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Would you support the establishment of an EU army?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:15:44 No.14861290 Report

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Fuck no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:16:03 No.14861291 Report

Quoted By: >>14861294

Yes, I would like us, canada and Turks to leave NATO, not out of spite, just so we can focus on the Pacific and so Europe can begin to work on their own devices again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:19:38 No.14861292 Report

Quoted By: >>14861293

>>14861289
Can’t wait for EU soldiers to raid my house after a hate speech algorithm found my browsing history problematic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:20:35 No.14861293 Report

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>>14861292
wouldn't that be the job of your local police

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:22:28 No.14861294 Report

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>>14861291
>Muh Asia
Not possible. Only anglos care about that. If you contain Russia/China in Asia they will just move into Europe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:24:27 No.14861295 Report

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>>14861289
No i dont want to serve those globalist fags from brussels

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:25:15 No.14861296 Report

Quoted By: >>14861313 >>14861349

yes, but the national militaries should still exist, the EU army should just be a framework like NATO that allows them to operate together effectively without relying on the US

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:25:55 No.14861297 Report

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>>14861289
Yes but only if operation command is given to NATO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:27:56 No.14861298 Report

Quoted By: >>14861300

What for? What we need is NATO and for Western Europeans to actually get themselves armies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:28:08 No.14861299 Report

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>>14861289
Not necessarily, but a European replacement for NATO is long overdue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:29:38 No.14861300 Report

Quoted By: >>14861306

>>14861298
so that our collective defense is still ensured in case somebody like Trump gets into power in the US again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:31:07 No.14861301 Report

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Yes but only if the portuguese don't have to fight and die for this whitoid shithole continent but still get all the benefits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:32:18 No.14861302 Report

Quoted By: >>14861307 >>14861310 >>14861319

>>14861289
EU army would be just the EU bossing ours around
Like what the fuck do you think the others will do? We're the only country with an actual army now that the UK is gone
this shit won't work

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:32:24 No.14861303 Report

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>>14861289
Yes
Under the leadership of my Empereur

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:32:38 No.14861304 Report

Quoted By: >>14861309

>>14861289
an eu army would never work, we can't even use a single currency properly together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:33:07 No.14861305 Report

Quoted By: >>14861307

No, fuck nato and fuck the eu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:33:26 No.14861306 Report

Quoted By: >>14861311 >>14861321

>>14861300
The post WW2 cold war framework is outaded and not compatible with a multipolar world. It is time Europe has control of it's own policies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:33:35 No.14861307 Report

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>>14861302
How dare you imply that ? The estonian army is just as powerful as the french army you bigot
>>14861305
Fuck me that's a based post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:34:30 No.14861308 Report

Quoted By: >>14861312 >>14861324 >>14861342

>>14861289
Only if Russia would be part of the EU otherwise no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:35:36 No.14861309 Report

Quoted By: >>14861317

>>14861304
That was, in a round-about sort of way, your country's fault.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:35:46 No.14861310 Report

Quoted By: >>14861314

>>14861302
>We're the only country with an actual army now that the UK is gone
Germany just put together the equivalent of our country's entire GDP towards building up its army

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:35:48 No.14861311 Report

Quoted By: >>14861320

>>14861306
NATO is fine, it's just a defensive alliance
but the EU should be capable to defend itself without the US too
NATO and a more effective EU defense structure can coexist imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:35:59 No.14861312 Report

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>>14861308
Russia and Europe are inseparable. American imperialism want to keep you divided.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:36:09 No.14861313 Report

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>>14861296
This. I agree with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:36:53 No.14861314 Report

Quoted By: >>14861318

>>14861310
Germany is extremly late and will need a lot of time to catch up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:37:24 No.14861315 Report

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>>14861289
i dont give a fuck if they go all IVreich or they became arabia 2.0, i only know i have to lift this cunt from the shithole so my grandkids wont have to read your faggot threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:37:36 No.14861316 Report

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No, I want America to pay for my safety while I enjoy my social benefits

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:37:54 No.14861317 Report

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>>14861309
>your country's fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:38:19 No.14861318 Report

Quoted By: >>14861322

>>14861314
so what you absolute cuck
it's such overkill anyway towards anyone other than the US that it doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:38:38 No.14861319 Report

Quoted By: >>14861323 >>14861336

>>14861302
Germany is building a huge army
(Again...)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:39:30 No.14861320 Report

Quoted By: >>14861330

>>14861311
NATO is bad for Europe. Europe can't be independent and free if it relies on NATO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:39:33 No.14861321 Report

Quoted By: >>14861348

>>14861306
Bad idea for small countries. The will of France and Germany is a world apart from the needs of smaller countries like Finland. With America, there's more overlap in interests since they aren't invested in Russian trade.
From this POV you have to a complete fucking retard to want to prioritize alliance with Western Europe instead of the US. On the internets there's a lot of talk about American power waning, but it's doing so at a much lower rate than Europe. France also has FN psychopaths who want to ally with Russia against Finland, which is a step further from whatever schizos America has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:39:35 No.14861322 Report

Quoted By: >>14861326

>>14861318
why are you calling me a cuck you gipsy bastard ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:40:26 No.14861323 Report

Quoted By: >>14861325

>>14861319
pfffttttttt.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:41:42 No.14861324 Report

Quoted By: >>14861328

>>14861308
It would be cool if Russia stopped being weird and just joined the EU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:42:15 No.14861325 Report

Quoted By: >>14861327

>>14861323
I'm joking bro. It's good that Germany is getting a big army. Major economies should have major armies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:42:40 No.14861326 Report

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>>14861322
because you are say the cuck shit you bloody fucking you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:43:51 No.14861327 Report

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>>14861325
if you really think that the 100 billion will change here anything, you`re pretty naive my friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:45:54 No.14861328 Report

Quoted By: >>14861329 >>14861332 >>14861376

>>14861324
We would be fine with Russia joining the EU for a couple of demands:
1: Putin and his regime will be executed for their war crimes
2: Russia will become a democracy
3: Russia will become a Western country, no more communism
4: No more corruption
Only then EVROPA will be truly from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Russia can keep its huge nuclear arsenal and army if they want

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:46:36 No.14861329 Report

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>>14861328
>1: Putin and his regime will be executed for their war crimes
>2: Russia will become a democracy
>3: Russia will become a Western country, no more communism
>4: No more corruption
>Only then EVROPA will be truly from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Russia can keep its huge nuclear arsenal and army if they want

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:47:09 No.14861330 Report

Quoted By: >>14861348

>>14861320
>NATO is bad for Europe. Europe can't be independent and free if it relies on NATO
no, I don't think it's bad for us at all, it guarantees our security. I agree we shouldn't rely on NATO and the US alone, and should build up an EU defense structure besides that, but that doesn't mean we should end the alliance with the US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:47:28 No.14861331 Report

Quoted By: >>14861337

I support a EU army as well as federalization of EU taking away most legislative power from national governments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:47:30 No.14861332 Report

Quoted By: >>14861335 >>14861338

>>14861328
>4: No more corruption
Hundreds of years have passed and no one was able to figure out how to solve this problem here.

Even if someone would come up with organization for monitoring corruption then this very organization would become corrupt and spread bribery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:47:40 No.14861333 Report

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>>14861289
haha u funny guy. take the ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:48:10 No.14861334 Report

Quoted By: >>14861337

>>14861289
Yes, full EU federalization as well as full conscription into the EU army

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:48:43 No.14861335 Report

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>>14861332
Just copy our system bro
Also get rid of the fucking communism

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:48:44 No.14861336 Report

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>>14861319
Noooo the Nazis again can't believe it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:49:07 No.14861337 Report

Quoted By: >>14861339 >>14861340 >>14861341

>>14861331
I am 100% against that
Fuck the EU
Fuck ferederalisation
Long live nation states
>>14861334
Piss off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:49:13 No.14861338 Report

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>>14861332
>Hundreds of years have passed and no one was able to figure out how to solve this problem here.
russia is just too big, balkanize would fix this problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:50:35 No.14861339 Report

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>>14861337
Nation states are outdated and are getting obsolete in this day and age. They served their purpose as a social construct from enlightenment era now it is time to let go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:50:37 No.14861340 Report

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>>14861337
Too late. You're one of us whether you like it or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:52:02 No.14861341 Report

Quoted By: >>14861343 >>14861344

>>14861337
>muh national identity
Is there really a huge difference between a government in Brussels versus a government in Paris

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:52:05 No.14861342 Report

Quoted By: >>14861345 >>14861346 >>14861361 >>14861380

>>14861308
>if Russia would be part of the EU

No way we will ever become eurocucks, I'd rather prefer my nation to get eradicated by nuclear fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:53:03 No.14861343 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861341
Now thats banter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:53:20 No.14861344 Report

Quoted By: >>14861353

>>14861341
you can keep national identity, that's the whole point of a federal state

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:54:13 No.14861345 Report

Quoted By: >>14861362

>>14861342
I wish pro EU russians could separate from people like you who hold similar beliefs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:54:31 No.14861346 Report

Quoted By: >>14861362

>>14861342
The future has already been decided. Russia will collapse and become our vassal state
Glory to EVROPA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:54:32 No.14861347 Report

Quoted By: >>14861351 >>14861354

How would this be working? I mean the people that are in the army are the dumbest people there are, they're in the army because they couldn't get a normal job. 99% of these people don't speak a foreign language. At least not proficiently. So how would a Lithuanian tank batallion communicate with a Portuguese air command for example? And language isn't the only problem. What about materials? A Danish platoon needs to call in with a Greek command, but tough luck, they bought different radio sets and can't set up communications. A German contingent needs springs for their G36 rifles, but unfortunately their Swedisch camp neighbours have different rifles and parts.

I mean look at the dramatic breakdown of Russian supply and support lines in the Ukraine. And they don't even have the problems I described above! An EU army would be something that everybody wanted and needed and that 20 years before it would actually be implemented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:55:22 No.14861348 Report

Quoted By: >>14861350 >>14861352

>>14861321
>>14861330
Refugee crisis in 2015 is a direct consequence of NATO actions. It only affects Europe though so America didn't and will never care. We haven't seen anything yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:56:36 No.14861349 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861296
Agree. Would never take orders from Ursula von der Leyen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:56:57 No.14861350 Report

Quoted By: >>14861363

>>14861348
>NATO actions
Tell me how the NATO got involved in the Syrian conflict that started the refugee crisis then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:57:06 No.14861351 Report

Quoted By: >>14861356

>>14861347
Soldiers from different countries would not work together side by side like that. It would be more of a military EU cooperation between different armies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:57:35 No.14861352 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861348
Nothing to do with NATO you retarded shill.
Reffo crisis was fueled by Russian-funded Communists working inside Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:58:24 No.14861353 Report

Quoted By: >>14861357

>>14861344
nah, we need absolute integration, tribalism would break a European federation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 08:59:38 No.14861354 Report

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>>14861347
>How would this be working?
it doesn't

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:00:31 No.14861355 Report

Quoted By: >>14861359 >>14861375

>>14861289
no, because the age of nations is over, as it the EU. Instead smaller countries should band together to form large states once more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:00:53 No.14861356 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861351
In a defence case they would have to work together on the level that I described. Because then, each country would only send a small unit into the conflict, and these small units would have to coordinate with eachother on a pretty low level. It's the 21st century, situations are highly mobile and depend on communication that has to work much quicker than being relayed the command chain all the way up, across to a different country, and then all the way down again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:01:02 No.14861357 Report

Quoted By: >>14861371

>>14861353
no that is batshit crazy soviet tier

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:01:38 No.14861358 Report

Quoted By: >>14861365

>LADY URSULA VON DER LEYEN, WHAT IS YOUR COMMAND?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:02:42 No.14861359 Report

Quoted By: >>14861360

>>14861355
>Instead smaller countries should band together to form large states once more
You say this bullshit just after your neighbouring country Yugoslavia did the exact opposite? You say this bullshit just after Crimea, Donetzk and Lugansk did the exact opposite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:03:58 No.14861360 Report

Quoted By: >>14861372

>>14861359
yugoslavia was destroyed by the CIA, crimea and donbas are ethnic russian and may aswell join russia

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:04:09 No.14861361 Report

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>>14861342
why are Russians like this? is it just because westoids are gay? why do you hate them so much?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:04:50 No.14861362 Report

Quoted By: >>14861367

>>14861345

You are free to leave Russia whenever you want, nobody forces you to stay here.

>>14861346

We will start a war against you and all die fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:05:26 No.14861363 Report

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>>14861350
NATO didn't get involved in Syria but they bombed and destroyed Libya (entrance to Europe from Africa) in 2011 and allot of the "Syrian" refugees were from Iraq and Afghanistan actually. All countries where NATO countries fought on behalf of the US (real purpose of NATO)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:07:07 No.14861364 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861289
god no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:07:13 No.14861365 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861358
>get down on your knees and worship my veiny feet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:07:18 No.14861366 Report

Quoted By: >>14861368

>>14861289
It's a horrible long term solution. EU leader countries already have aspirations of forcing their will on other members. You really think it's a good idea to give them an actual army to bear? Basically, we can't let Germany fuck things up for the third time.

Pavel

Pavel Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:08:55 No.14861367 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861362
Пoбeдa или Cмepть

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:09:06 No.14861368 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861366
We are all brothers now. We won't go to war with each other another time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:09:16 No.14861369 Report

Quoted By: >>14861373

first mission of the EU army should be to kick the Turks out from northern Cyprus and reinstate Cypriot territorial integrity
would be kinda based desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:10:07 No.14861370 Report

Quoted By:

Who can stop us?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:11:13 No.14861371 Report

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>>14861357
Yes, now you understand. We need direct rule from Brussels and the complete mobilization of european society into a single thinking feeling unit. After we march on the rest of the world we’ll take the stars

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:11:22 No.14861372 Report

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>>14861360
I wonder who did it..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:13:02 No.14861373 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861369
tbf that would actually be based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:13:49 No.14861374 Report

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Glory to EVROPA
https://youtu.be/uKB-xFRkYQY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:17:21 No.14861375 Report

Quoted By: >>14861379

>>14861355
just read today how it was commanded..... there was revolt after revolt after revolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:19:36 No.14861376 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861328
>3: Russia will become a Western country, no more communism
How is Russia communist now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:20:14 No.14861377 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861289
As long as the EU (except us) pays for it sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:20:52 No.14861378 Report

Quoted By: >>14861381

>>14861289
I'm ready to FIGHT and KILL for the EV.
Even if I'm to be used as cannon fodder. Glory to EVROPA. Glory to BRVSSELS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:22:18 No.14861379 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861375
the imperial army? At the end of the war yeah there were a few revolts, also the unloyal czechs. Otherwise AH was in pretty good shape, even the army was still intact, unlike other states where it began to collapse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:23:43 No.14861380 Report

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>>14861342
Based. Death before dishonor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2022 09:28:27 No.14861381 Report

Quoted By:

>>14861378
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZohUw7CT Sun 03 Apr 2022 10:26:08 No.14861598 Report

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yeah

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