>>16596217well first of all, my top compatriot of bant, i would like to say that i adore all british cultural exports such as top gear and fish and chips. Secondly i would like to adress the issue of self governance. The crucial flaw in your thinking is equating a high degree of industrialisation with human value. These countries would have industrialised anyway in time without the help of a conquering empire. This is proven by the post soviet industry shift the baltics had to go trough because the soviet products were not competetive in western markets.