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Post your ideas about the nature of the space and time ITT. All of us can give some ideas, and we'll discuss them together. Here's some ideas I have to start off:>the properties of space, and the objects in space come entirely from the geometry of space, and stuff like electric charge, and all other properties, as well as objects such as the elements, or simple stuff like chairs and tables are geometric in origin alone. >every area of space or objects acts as a automata, taking in a input, changing state, and emitting a output. the passage of time would then be the counting of each time the states of these areas or objects change >two areas of space are beside each other only if they can directly send an output or take an input from the other area. i was thinking a bit about if two areas are beside each only if they do send a output or take a input from the other, instead of only if they can, but i'm not too sure about it yet. >areas of space are the same thing as objects, in the nature of the universe, only humans classify them differently for convenience. this would mean that every area of space is something, and if two things are apart, that's only true if somethings between them. And if there is nothing between them, that means they are beside eachother. So empty space would not actually be empty. this non-empty space would be the medium for light. what are some ideas ye have. i want to hear them.
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>>17010036 i don't know i am not qualified to answer so i will take a nap on your behalf
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earth core will invert itself in 7 years due to gastrointestinal changes
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As a consequence of the second point, the beginning of the universe can be discussed. Assume the universe had a beginning before now. Two possibilities exist:>no area of space at the time of the beginning received a input. Then, they would not change state, and would never change state, as a result, the universe would not start, so this possibility can be ruled out.>some area of space present at the beginning of time received a input this would mean that the input received would be an output from another area of space. and the only way for the output to be emitted would be if that area had a change of state. And so if there was a change of state before the beginning of the universe, that would mean the beginning was not the beginning. So with the first result, it would mean that if areas of space really are automata-like, the universe would not have a beginning. it was just always there.
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>>17010059 i heard the inner core slowed down or something compared to the mantle. i don't know much about it since i haven't read the paper though.
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>the continuity of the space i don't think space is perfectly continuous. A area of space that contains another area inside it would be made up of a greater amount of space, and the smaller area couldn't be split into as many different groups as the larger area could. And because of this, any complete mapping from all the subsets of the smaller area to all the subsets of the larger area couldn't have a one to one correspondence. if this was true, then the distance between two seperate areas, which would be a area itself couldn't be measured by the real numbers, only by either a subset of the real numbers like the natural numbers or something, since for distances to be measured by the set of real numbers, it would need to be able to have a one-to-one correspondence if their subsets were mapped to each other, no matter the size, which would be in contradiction with what i said about the subset area having a less amount of space, only if that's true of course. Its not rigorous yet.
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Stuff like this is interesing, and hard to comprehend. Think about ants, they have no idea of the vast universe that sorrounds them. We are able to understand and know much more about the universe than ants can, but as deeper it gets, there comes a point where we are in a similar situation to ants. I wonder what kind of stuff could be all of that.
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>>17010764 i think we will reach a limit to how small of a object we can observe, and we'll also be limited by how large of a object we can observe because light seems to only has a finite speed so we'll never be able to know what the vast majority of the unobservable universe looks like. so we'll be like those ants then, we'll never be able to observe the undending reaches of space since we are finite beings. But the nature of space and time as a whole, i think that could be derived since they are the same everywhere in the whole world, at least I hope that they can be. But language might be a limiting factor, and it mightn't be possible if that's the case.
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does /bant/ think every area in space can always be split into smaller areas, or is there a limit to how small a area of space can be?
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>>17011314 No, I think space could be infinitely small, as numbers can. So likely there's no limit, that of course leaves me with many questions.
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if a area of the world did not ever interact with the rest of the world, so that it would be independant from the world, it would be no different as that area not existing at all, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. But say over a very tiny timelength, a area was independant from the rest of the world, could such a area exist? If such a area could exist, then not much information is gained for the nature of space, but if it couldn't exist, it would mean that the result of every interaction in the world must always result in a new interaction, and every area of space is always interacting with other areas. Then maybe you could define two areas of space as being beside each other only if they interact (maybe). So the question now is that if such a independant area can exist or not.