>>17681973>>I know you literally experienced the same exact effects but you didn't follow these arbitrary steps to accomplish it so it doesn't count>Your perceived authority on this topicI never said im an authority, that's your assumption and bias and your claim, not mine
>is as arbitrary & subjective as spiritual experiences themselves,A lot of spiritual experiences arent arbitrary, but are exact, precise, and universal, and can be tested as existing in lab environments. Like Being Conscious for example
>you can't objectively prove that it wasn't authentic anymore than I can claim your example is inauthentic.Sure I can, brain scans of meditators and monks scan much differently and more fully than normies
>Ketchup is objectively better than mustard, my proof? My taste buds prefer the former therefore it's true but only for me, some other people will have a similar experience & others will be the opposite.Enlightenment and ketchup taste are 2 different beasts all together. For those who want to reach Spiritual Enlightenment, the possible ramifications of what this means and what it will result in, is a completely different matter than tasting food lol
>You're basically taking that & saying that ketchup is universally better than mustard because your subjective experience is the one truth but it's not.Nope, im not saying that. Im saying there is a repeatable system of steps to reach enlightenment and many have taken the steps and reached it and they all find the same things, states, changes when they get there. They find a reality that is prior to and has nothing to do with objective vs subjective vs arbitrary and so on
>I've had multiple NDEs yet no pagan mountain demon spoke to me & converted me into a christian but it sure did for others.Ok and? Maybe you NDE's were just on the outskirts of where those other realms are. It would be like saying, "I've had a few trips to Florida but I never saw California" not realizing how vast the states are
