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Why are christians so confused with their own religion?

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:03:36 No.18006271 View View Reply Original Report

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Zherka a well known coke head christian degenerate ended up leaving a debate against a muslim because he constantly got embarrassed by using the same debates people use on here to try and defame Islam

>https://youtu.be/bNzlRiZaBEE?t=2296

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:05:38 No.18006272 Report

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>>18006271
zherka himself said he's not a Christian, firstly. secondly not every Christian is meant to be an apologist. thirdly prots and latins are not Christian. lastly if you want apologetics watch Orthodox Shahada

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:12:21 No.18006273 Report

Quoted By: >>18006274 >>18006277 >>18006288

>>18006272
>OP uses a guy who is not Christian to attack christians.
Why are black cube worshipers so deceptive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:14:15 No.18006274 Report

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>>18006272
>>18006273

>claims to not be a christian but a christian defender, definitely not a cope guys!!
>goes to the church and says "christ is king"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:16:09 No.18006275 Report

Quoted By: >>18006276 >>18006289 >>18006293

>>18006271
This guy is not white, plus islam is a sham. Also muslims call Jesus just a prophet yet Jesus himself has made it known that he is the son of God and God in flesh so the entire pislam religion falls apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:17:17 No.18006276 Report

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>>18006275
>yet Jesus himself has made it known that he is the son of God

did jesus make it known or was it the people who edited the bible so many times that the original one literally cannot be found?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:18:11 No.18006277 Report

Quoted By: >>18006284

>>18006273
they wage warfare by deception

>>18006274
yes I find much of the religious debate (and internet debate in general) scene to be highly cringe. it's a bunch of low IQ mouth breathers going over the same topics again and again and it's tiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:19:27 No.18006278 Report

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>>18006271
I'm not watching your retarded video + you are probably a shitskin.

Most ""Christians"" don't read the Bible though, it's true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:20:32 No.18006279 Report

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>>18006276
the original Bible was created by the Church, it's funny how mohemmedians only debate Sola Scriptura wignuts because using the Bible in and of itself is indefensible. you have to use Scripture in conjunction with the Church.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:25:41 No.18006280 Report

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>>18006271
No true christians got vaccinated zherka did.
>>18006272
Idolator.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:28:54 No.18006281 Report

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How many threads are you going to shill here jEW nigger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:30:41 No.18006282 Report

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>>18006281
>memeflag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:36:44 No.18006283 Report

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>>18006271
Retards like zherka should not debate.
Its a disdain to the Christian faith and leads people away because of how much of retard you are being.
If you want to debate, research logical fallacies, internal fallacies within the oppositions position, and read as much history and philosophy books as you can.
His foremost mistake was not arguing using the patristic tradition of the church. What a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:37:48 No.18006284 Report

Quoted By: >>18006291

>>18006277
Yeah. Notice also how they go primarily after Christians. Not kikes. Why is that?

>>18006281
LOL Cuck religion

>>18006280
>Idolator
Bows to black cube of saturn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:38:32 No.18006285 Report

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>>18006271
Islam is an idiotic religion invented by a rapist pedophile murderer.

Afghan

Afghan Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:39:20 No.18006286 Report

Quoted By: >>18006313

What race is that guy even?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:39:42 No.18006287 Report

Quoted By: >>18006290

>>18006271
Wow, two Jewish god worshippers squabbling over which of their fan fictions is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:40:35 No.18006288 Report

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>>18006273
Zherka is managed by nightmedia. May as well be Jewish because that's who signs his checks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:43:39 No.18006289 Report

Quoted By: >>18006292

>>18006275
>Jesus himself has made it known that he is the son of God and God in flesh
Why do christkikes always lie so blatantly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:46:52 No.18006290 Report

Quoted By: >>18006296

>>18006287
>implying Jews don't worship satan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:47:08 No.18006291 Report

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>>18006284
>worships a wooden plus sign with a dead guy attached to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:48:47 No.18006292 Report

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>>18006289
>God in flesh
Fuck off liar.
Anyone who reads the scripture themselves will find that Arius was correct about the nature of Christ and the Nicene Creed is heretical and idolatrous itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:49:31 No.18006293 Report

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>>18006275

its ALL BULLSHIT 1000000000000000000000000000000%

Hear it from the scammers themselves

https://nationalvanguard.org/2011/01/commissary-to-the-gentiles/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:51:20 No.18006294 Report

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>>18006280
wrong lol are you heretic or a heathen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:52:20 No.18006295 Report

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>>18006292
Arius shitted himself to death for his heresy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:53:08 No.18006296 Report

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>>18006290
All three worship Yaweh, son of El.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:53:59 No.18006297 Report

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>>18006272
Saw one of his videos on the Ark. He gets the idea of iconoclasm very wrong. Muslims don't say that icons were not allowed at any point in history. There were also human figures in Solomon's temple. Icons became prohibited only with the final message of the Qur'an.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:55:26 No.18006298 Report

Quoted By: >>18006302

>>18006271
Only brainlets think debates are a reflection of truth. Debates boil down to charisma, salesmanship, pandering, body language, etc. Debate only tells you who is a better debater, not what the truth is. A convincing lie will trump the truth delivered flaccidly every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:55:38 No.18006299 Report

Quoted By: >>18006301 >>18006305

>>18006295
>>18006294
SO neither of you have read ya bibles and i know that for a fact ,so fuck off until you have done the bare minimum required to be a Christian before making fools of yaselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:56:40 No.18006300 Report

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>>18006297
is that an authentic view?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:56:50 No.18006301 Report

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>>18006299
>26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”
>27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
>28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:56:53 No.18006302 Report

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>>18006298
and how do you even debate religion when religion is tied to your race and civilization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:58:04 No.18006303 Report

Quoted By: >>18006308

>>18006297
>Muslims don't say that icons were not allowed at any point in history
Thats a sunnah addition not qua'ranic, just like the Catholics the biggest breed of muslimites are rendered heretical by what they claim is their main scripture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:58:36 No.18006304 Report

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They needed another race to write their book for them, adopting all the hidden shit meant for conquest in the process

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:58:37 No.18006305 Report

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>>18006299
>only reads Bible
>accuses others of not doing the bare minimum

jej

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 13:58:41 No.18006306 Report

Quoted By: >>18006325

>>18006296
False

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:02:01 No.18006307 Report

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>>18006276
Did Mohamed, the illiterate caravan raider, make it known that Muslims can't eat pork, or was it the people who wrote the Koran after Mohamed died?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:03:32 No.18006308 Report

Quoted By: >>18006311

>>18006300
It's gradual purification of society. First, turn away from idol worship, then turn away from idols altogether, turning only toward the truth.
>>18006303
We are Sunnis. Of course, we follow the Sunnah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:03:49 No.18006309 Report

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>>18006307
anything a cat breaths on become permissible to the muslim.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:04:33 No.18006310 Report

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>>18006307
>or was it the people who wrote the Koran after Mohamed died?

Hilarious that you think the quran is manmade considering how the modern bible has contradictions left and right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:05:39 No.18006311 Report

Quoted By: >>18006314

>>18006308
Not being the word of the prophet makes it invalid by nature,As is to be expected when its authors bloodline ignored the naming of Ali twice as the prophets successor and went to war over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:06:00 No.18006312 Report

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>>18006272
>Orthodox Shahada
Ahh excellent. So the heterodox are infiltrated by Jews while the Orthodox are infiltrated by Muslims.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:08:30 No.18006313 Report

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>>18006286
Polynesian

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:08:58 No.18006314 Report

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>>18006311
How is the Sunnah not the words and deeds of the Prophet(S)?
The Rightly Guided Caliphs didn't go to war with Ali(R). Ali(R) himself accepted their leadership and even protected them at various points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:09:37 No.18006315 Report

Quoted By: >>18006317 >>18006324

>>18006310
"Quranists" are a minority.
AFAIK, most Muslims include the Torah, Christian Bible. the Hadith, the Quran, and similar to Canon law, at least 8 types of shariah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:10:04 No.18006316 Report

Quoted By: >>18006319 >>18006350

>>18006279
How's that a good argument for Muslims, Quran was made years after by going around and asking people what stories they remembered of Mohammed either some other guys deciding what they wanted to put in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:12:20 No.18006317 Report

Quoted By: >>18006321

>>18006292
Have you taken your meds yet?

>>18006315
>Muslims include the Torah
The Jewish Torah is not the real Torah.
>Christian Bible.
False.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:12:32 No.18006318 Report

Quoted By: >>18006356

>>18006300
Generally, yes. Same with alcohol, we know that was allowed before Muhammad, peace with him
Also marrying a woman and also her sister became prohibited, but no one really talks about that...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:12:54 No.18006319 Report

Quoted By: >>18006329

>>18006316
That relates to writing down the Qur'an. Not the creation of the Qur'an. The Qur'an is a recitation. "Qur'an" literally means recitation. It was only written down for reference to a single standard as the Islamic empire grew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:13:56 No.18006320 Report

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>>18006276
John 10, retard
he literally says He's the son of God
muslims are all fucking inbred retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:13:56 No.18006321 Report

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>>18006317
New Testament,
doesn't mean they hold it up in the same importance etc, or even follow it.
Similar to how many Jews follow their Talmud more than the Torah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:14:12 No.18006322 Report

Quoted By: >>18006327

>>18006291
Are Christians bowing to one cross 5x a day and told by their religion in their life to go and kiss the thing? Does that imaginary cross have the power to get rid of sin like the muslim's black stone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:15:49 No.18006323 Report

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>>18006279
Anon there are tons of retarded stuff just in the Bible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:17:12 No.18006324 Report

Quoted By: >>18006326 >>18006331 >>18006381

>>18006315
The Torah is included in the sense that guidance came to the Jews but they rejected it. The Torah in its current form is not accepted by Muslims. The Talmud and the rest certainly isn't.
The Gospel that Muslims accept is the original words of Jesus(PBUH). The Bible in its current form is also considered corrupted.
There aren't eight types of shariah. Some political leaders came together and said followers of seven schools of fiqh are to be accepted as Muslims. The four Sunni schools, Zaidi, Twelver, and Ibadi. Sunnis can follow any of the four schools or none of them at all. It's like how there might be different approaches to legal interpretation used by SCOTUS. None of those philosophies are binding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:20:25 No.18006325 Report

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>>18006306
Deny it all you'd like. It's well understood. You can pretend you worship a made up later era god, but all three ambrahamic religions use the same name referring to yahweh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:20:30 No.18006326 Report

Quoted By: >>18006328

>>18006324
>guidance came to the Jews
Jews didn't even exist at that time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:20:32 No.18006327 Report

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>>18006322
There are tons of things that get rid of our sins. The Black Stone is the altar of Abraham(PBUH) upon which he bound his son. Kissing it is a reminder of our duty of sacrifice for the sake of God and of God's mercy in lessening the burden of sacrifice. It also indicates a turn away from the human sacrifice that pagans engage in to this day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:21:08 No.18006328 Report

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>>18006326
Israelites then. Bani Israel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:22:32 No.18006329 Report

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>>18006319
That's how it was created, by asking a bunch of people that met him some stories. Not like Mohammed said a bunch of stuff and they all memorized it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:25:27 No.18006330 Report

Quoted By: >>18006338

>>18006329
The Qur'an was transcribed by a small committee of four. Even then, it was just for reference and kept with the caliph. The Qur'an was and still is learned orally in Islamic schools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:25:58 No.18006331 Report

Quoted By: >>18006335

>>18006324
There's other schools. I'm just trying to be as objective as possible. Druze are grey area one, for example. I know, like in Christianity, different sects contradict eachother on what is a true interpretation of "x" text of saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:29:42 No.18006332 Report

Quoted By: >>18006336

>>18006327
So a magic rock. With magic abilities.Exactly the point I was making to previous poster thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:31:21 No.18006333 Report

Quoted By: >>18006337 >>18006341

>>18006271
Zherka is a retarded cokehead that doesn't practice Catholicism

That being said it is pretty funny that all these Sheikhs only debate literal who's
and refuse to debate people like Jay Dyer or Sam Shamoun that would destroy their retarded religion

All the online Sunni content is geared towards low IQ brown children with ADHD
Literally basedfacing in every thumbnail

Muslim apologists also contradict themselves

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJLADwLB38&pp=ygUQU2FtIHNoYW1vdW4gcGF1bA%3D%3D

Modern Muslims claim that Paul corrupted the message of Jesus

Yet all the early Muslim writings and the greatest Quran scholars all say that Paul was a righteous follower of Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:31:41 No.18006334 Report

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>>18006271
All Abrahamism is Satanic at the core. Zherka has only made a small step in the right direction by converting to (((christianity))) which in its modern form is admittedly somewhat less evil than (((islam)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:32:12 No.18006335 Report

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>>18006331
There aren't any significant differences between the four Sunni schools of thought. All of them are acceptable. They just flourished in different regions due to patronage by rulers. All of them kinda exist side by side in Egypt. And in various other regions, including Saudi Arabia. They aren't heretics to each other like various Christian sects are. The grey area would be Shia, some of whom go to extremes and some of whom are accepted as Muslims. Shia have their own grey areas - the ghulat/extremists. Alawites are an example of what they'd consider beyond the pale.
But again, in real life, categories are not as clear cut as they seem. These are concerns of scholars and jurists. I know someone from an Alawite family who had the aqeedah of a Salafi, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:33:28 No.18006336 Report

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>>18006332
It's not a "magic rock" no more than the Kaabah is a "magic rock". That's like saying Congress is a "magic building" because we have to follow whatever people say in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:33:46 No.18006337 Report

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>>18006333
>Yet all the early Muslim writings and the greatest Quran scholars all say that Paul was a righteous follower of Jesus
Such as who?

>Of the 22 times "St." Paul the Liar is referred to as an apostle in the Bible, 20 times are by himself and 2 are by his own servant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:33:51 No.18006338 Report

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>>18006330
Transcribed by randoms who said they met Mohammed. Yea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:34:31 No.18006339 Report

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>>18006338
>Transcribed by randoms who said they met Mohammed. Yea
Lolno

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:34:48 No.18006340 Report

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>>18006271
>no, my abrahamic dick mutilation slave cult is better than yours

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:35:21 No.18006341 Report

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>>18006333
>refuse to debate people like Jay Dyer or Sam Shamoun that would destroy their retarded religion

okay retard
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6gPvXukuqA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zDjdtUC9xY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:35:23 No.18006342 Report

Quoted By: >>18006347

>>18006274
>goes to the church and says "christ is king"
I've been going to church my whole life and never said that once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:35:39 No.18006343 Report

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>>18006337
Did you watch the video?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:36:21 No.18006344 Report

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>>18006341
That was not a debate lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:36:38 No.18006345 Report

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>>18006343
I didn't know that was a requirement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:37:14 No.18006346 Report

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>>18006338
Zaid ibn Thabit, Abdullah ibn Zubair, Said bin Al-Aas and Abd ar-Rahman bin al-Harith - may Allah be pleased with them - are not random people at all. Not to mention Paul is far more random than any of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:37:36 No.18006347 Report

Quoted By: >>18006348 >>18006351

>>18006342
well your christian friends love saying that

>>18006344
then what was it LOL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:39:26 No.18006348 Report

Quoted By: >>18006352 >>18006354

>>18006345
He lists all the sources
But I know you desperately want to remain ignorant

>>18006347
It was David Wood and Anthony Rogers (two retards) talking to the Sheikh while Sam was standing in the background

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:39:27 No.18006349 Report

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>>18006336
you worship a magic rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:39:39 No.18006350 Report

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>>18006316
it's not I'm not arguing for muslims I'm sorry if it appeared that way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:40:21 No.18006351 Report

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>>18006347
>then what was it LOL?
>NOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WATCH MY VIDEOS AND HATE YOURSELF LIKE I DO!!!!11

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:40:45 No.18006352 Report

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>>18006348
>It was David Wood and Anthony Rogers (two retards) talking to the Sheikh while Sam was standing in the background

So you're telling me he was that much of a pussy he didn't even bother trying to argue so he just stood behind hoping that his boyfriends were gonna do his work? Pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:41:09 No.18006353 Report

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EX-MUSLIMS IN THE MOSQUE: THE IMPENDING COLLAPSE OF ISLAM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GF5EJOJBsYI/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:41:56 No.18006354 Report

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>>18006348
>He lists all the sources
Then it should be easy for you to do the same. Right here, on this shit

>>18006337
>>Yet all the early Muslim writings and the greatest Quran scholars all say that Paul was a righteous follower of Jesus
>Such as who?
But you wanna remain ze cuckold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:43:24 No.18006355 Report

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>>18006343
The biggest mistake Christians make when engaging with Muslims is taking missionary tactics. What worked with random tribals with ooga booga religions in Africa won't work with Muslims. It won't work with Buddhists or Hindus or atheists either. You have to prove foundational errors in our beliefs, not nitpick at random ahadith all learned Muslims already know about. The only people that stuff works on are complete retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:44:02 No.18006356 Report

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>>18006318
ok thank you for the clarification. for Christians there's a good portion of the year where we abstain from certain things, alcohol included but it's not strictly forbidden, drunkenness is.
I still uphold the use of icons as a Christian

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:44:48 No.18006357 Report

Quoted By: >>18006360

>>18006346
Cool, yet they still went around asking randoms what they knew of him and wrote that down

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:47:28 No.18006358 Report

Quoted By: >>18006370

>>18006349
The Kaaba has been rebuilt multiple times throughout history. How is it magic?
What does a random storm in Saturn prove?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:49:06 No.18006359 Report

Quoted By: >>18006361

>>18006271
>opens with jihad isnt war it means struggle
not worth the the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:52:39 No.18006360 Report

Quoted By: >>18006362

>>18006357
How else would you do it? Say you wanted to transcribe a set of songs by a deceased artist? Aren't the best people to approach his bandmates?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:53:19 No.18006361 Report

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>>18006359
That's important for his Twitch audience to know. None of these people are experts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 14:55:44 No.18006362 Report

Quoted By: >>18006363

>>18006360
How is asking randoms who said they knew him or had a story about him a better method than how the Bible was made

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:01:32 No.18006363 Report

Quoted By: >>18006369

>>18006362
WDYM said they knew him? They did know him. And they were appointed in the first place by someone extremely close to the Prophet(S). It's like four of the apostles being tasked with writing down the words of Jesus(PBUH).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:02:38 No.18006364 Report

Quoted By: >>18006367 >>18006371 >>18006372

It’s easy to debunk organized religion with only the determinism vs free will debate.

If christurds believe God is omniscient, omnipotent, all knowing and all powerful then he knows who will go to heaven or hell, who will believe his garbage or not. Any cope like God momentarily made himself forget or that he “guides” a person to a decision they make is pure retarded cope. God is God so he will know no matter what. And this thus shows favouritism and evil since God already chooses, beforehand, who he will save. So in effect, God is evil.

If there is real free will than there is no God because God wouldn’t know, which would mean he isn’t God.

I believe in God but religion is gay and retarded, I’m undecided if any fucker will go to hell because God wants to or if the concept of hell is fake and gay. But what will be done with actual evil pedos, serial killers and racists though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:03:20 No.18006365 Report

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>>18006271
>Zherka
>well known

Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:04:21 No.18006366 Report

Quoted By: >>18006373 >>18006374

>>18006336
No one bows 5x a day or kisses or is required to travel to congress's building.

Black rock has the power to take away sins on it's own? It's not Allah coming down from heaven doing it. The power is the rock. Magic Rock.

Look up the history of it it's nothing more then a a left over pagan shrine and kissing it is left over from arab pagans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:05:16 No.18006367 Report

Quoted By: >>18006368

>>18006364
God can intervene but doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:06:13 No.18006368 Report

Quoted By: >>18006375

>>18006367
COPE and irrelevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:06:16 No.18006369 Report

Quoted By: >>18006376

>>18006363
These 4 guys went around asking people, hey what do you know about Mohammed?
Then they chose what to include or not include.
They didn't follow Mohammed around and document his life. Everything written was done long after his death.

To think they had some more reliable process than how the Bible was made is insane

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:06:26 No.18006370 Report

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>>18006358
>random

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:08:15 No.18006371 Report

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>>18006364
>nooooo God can't do whatever he wants he has to fit in my box I made for Him reeeeeeee

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:09:20 No.18006372 Report

Quoted By: >>18006378 >>18006389

>>18006364
I'm not sure you understand the concepts of free will, evil, or hell
Have you ever watched a movie you really like for the 2nd or third time? Why do that, if you already know what's gonna happen? Because you know what the movie is about. Now how many times, and how many cuts did the crew behind the scenes see? And nobody ever asks if we should save Batman's parents or uncle Ben. Is that evil?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:10:20 No.18006373 Report

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>>18006366
Arab pagans were descendants of Ishmael(PBUH). Their paganism came the same way Israelite paganism did: through surrounding nations and tribes. None of the rituals of the Hajj are pagan. The practices that were eliminated were pagan. You don't fight your entire life against paganism, then leave a bunch of pagan symbols behind. That's ridiculous to even say.
Lots of things have the power to take away sins. The kiss happens in the context of the Hajj. Performing a specific practice in the Hajj would obviously be virtuous. What about running between Safa and Marwa as Hagar did? What about stoning the Devil at the Jamarat? What about the animal sacrifices at Arafat? The Hajj is a symbolic journey, a return to the traditions of the Adamic religion, and to the Abrahamic tradition which is the foremost representative of the Adamic religion.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:10:49 No.18006374 Report

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>>18006366
>No one bows 5x a day or kisses or is required to travel to congress's building.
Thank God. Now don't forget your mask, black lives matter, tranny power

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:11:26 No.18006375 Report

Quoted By: >>18006378 >>18006384

>>18006368
God can intervene but doesn't. Hence, free will exists.
God is fair and merciful. He doesn't create unfair tests. To either choose Heaven or Hell is well within our reach. We can only choose Hell by actively rejecting Him all our lives.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:14:03 No.18006376 Report

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>>18006369
If they chose not to include something, lots of other people would have called them out on it. Why'd they choose not to include anything? What would it even accomplish?
As for the way we grade chains, just look at this page to see how well-developed our historical criticism is. Christians don't even have fictional chains going back to Jesus(PBUH).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_terminology

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:15:25 No.18006377 Report

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>>18006370
Some rings on logos and two random cubes make it occult and Satanic? Pagans use pyramids as their symbols. They love hierarchy.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:17:28 No.18006378 Report

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>>18006375
>>18006372
Low iq dribble, if God is God then it’s all moot and he already knows. That’s what God is, any cope means your God is weaker and thus not God. He is evil because he’s a favourtist. That’s Jewish and your God is a JEW.

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JW on /pol/ Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:18:31 No.18006381 Report

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>>18006324
>The Bible in its current form is also considered corrupted.

What parts and why?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:18:40 No.18006382 Report

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>>18006378
so with that logic gods that favor only Europeans are showing favoritism and Jewish as well?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:18:46 No.18006383 Report

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>>18006378
So what if he knows? He's only evil if He forces us into Hell or forces us into an unfair test that virtually guarantees Hell. He's not. He's giving us every chance in the world to repent, embrace the truth, and to embrace Him.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:19:28 No.18006384 Report

Quoted By: >>18006392

>>18006375
I think the point is that free will requires a future that you can change, or for there to be no future. With an entity such as God being possible, that means free will isn't possible because the future is absolutely known and set, hence there is no choice.
Similarly, for free will to be possible, a God cannot know what we will do (as we have not chosen yet). But He absolutely does, and would have done so from the moment of creation (and with explicitly being made that way).
Regardless of how it plays out, in this view determinism is forced by a God.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:19:29 No.18006385 Report

Quoted By: >>18006392

>>18006383
>He's not.
He is because he already knows who will and will not go to Hell, thus he is evil. And cope means he’s weak and therefore not God.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:19:42 No.18006386 Report

Quoted By: >>18006390

>>18006381
please leave the witnesses behind dude they are heretics

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:20:31 No.18006387 Report

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>>18006381
Anything that deviates from monotheism is corrupted in the very literal sense of being contaminated with untruth. Whether it's in the Bible or whether it's some extra-Biblical Christian tradition.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:20:48 No.18006388 Report

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>>18006302
You just accept that personality is genetic and that anyone compelled to be submissive to an abstract alpha baboon has just had their primate genetics refined for submission to "lords." History proves the bottleneck as every "blasphemer" was culled while loyal slaves bred.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:21:10 No.18006389 Report

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>>18006372
>And nobody ever asks if we should save Batman's parents or uncle Ben. Is that evil?
Or is the guy that shot them the one who's evil? Because no matter what, he would've always shot them. If you changed directors, changed actors, tweaked the story, the robber would always rob given the circumstances. And the one who repents will always repent given the circumstances

When death approaches any of them, they cry, “My Lord! Let me go back,
"So that I may do good in that which I have left behind!" No! It is but a word that he speaks, and behind them is a barrier until the Day when they will be resurrected. 23:100

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JW on /pol/ Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:21:55 No.18006390 Report

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>>18006386
Jehovah's Witnesses are the truest and most purest form of Christianity similar to that of the 1st Century Christians. We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.

Our primary message is that of God's Kingdom now ruling in heaven by Jesus Christ who has been enthroned as King. We use God's name and teach it to others openly. We are the only ones actively preaching the message from your local neighborhoods, your local businesses, to missionary work in the most distance lands in the world. All of this without shedding one drop of blood or firing one bullet at an enemy.

JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history. In fact, they were imprisoned in the LOLacaust for refusing to war for Hitler WHILE they were imprisoned in the US for refusing to war for the US. Right now, there are JW in prison in Uzebekistan, South Korea, and Armenia for refusing military service. A few months ago Russia officially banned their work for refusing to be nationalistic. They are the most innocent of all the sects.

Here's a video we made for the children.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/05/05/jehovahs-witness-video-under-fire-for-homophobic-message/

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:22:35 No.18006391 Report

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>>18006378
>dribble

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:22:42 No.18006392 Report

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>>18006384
>>18006385
How does His knowledge contradict free will? It only contradicts free will if He intended it to be that way or forced it to be that way.
This also assumes that being thrown into Hell for any reason whatsoever is evil. Did the people going into Hell deserve it or not?

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Anonymous ID:bohOktwV Sat 01 Jul 2023 15:46:16 No.18007849 Report

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>>18006390
>Heaven is totally isekai fantasy world just trust me bro

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