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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:39:04 No.18224033 View View Reply Original Report

what if FTL space travel is a meme and we're stuck in this solar system forever
what's the plan for the next millions of years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:39:39 No.18224034 Report

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>>18224033
To kill 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:39:57 No.18224035 Report

Quoted By: >>18224054 >>18224058 >>18224085

>>18224033
I think filling space with water would be cool

Moroccan BVLL

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Moroccan BVLL Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:43:29 No.18224036 Report

Quoted By: >>18224041

>>18224033
>FTL
Meanwhile I can't get a capacitor for my lawnmower that lasts longer than 5 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:44:34 No.18224037 Report

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>>18224033
Not my problem

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:46:31 No.18224038 Report

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>>18224033
>what's the plan for the next millions of years?
to wallow in misery of knowing our inescapable fate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:47:04 No.18224039 Report

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>>18224033
no meme fren alien booba awaits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:49:10 No.18224040 Report

Quoted By: >>18224064 >>18224082

IT is meme it impossible same as traveling back in time,

Why Going Faster-Than-Light Leads to Time Paradoxes
Is faster-than-light (FTL) travel possible? In most discussions of this, we get hung up on the physics of particular ideas, such as wormholes or warp drives. But today, we take a more zoomed out approach that addresses all FTL propulsion - as well as FTL messaging. Because it turns out that they all allow for time travel. Join us today as we explore why this is so and the profound consequences that ensue.

Written & presented by Prof David Kipping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0M-wcHw5A

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:50:10 No.18224041 Report

Quoted By: >>18224043 >>18224044

>>18224036
Electric lawn mowers are for fags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:50:11 No.18224042 Report

Quoted By: >>18224046 >>18224047 >>18224050 >>18224060 >>18224064 >>18224073

It's both a meme and not a meme.

Well, literal faster than light travel is.
Getting there faster than light could is not necessarily a strict impossibility.
I mean, why not just bend space to make a shortcut?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:53:16 No.18224043 Report

Quoted By: >>18224044

>>18224041
yes. he voted for this.

Moroccan BVLL

Moroccan BVLL Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:54:20 No.18224044 Report

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>>18224041
>>18224043
I had a gas one, I got too many complaints here in the Bible Belt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:55:45 No.18224045 Report

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>>18224033
Instead of exploring the universe we will explore our own minds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:56:26 No.18224046 Report

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>>18224042
because if any of what you suggest were even remotely possible we'd all be turned into incomprehensible spaghetti any time someone sneezed or a star tilted .00001 degrees.

yet.... (and think about this part carefully) you actually believe it xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:56:49 No.18224047 Report

Quoted By: >>18224048 >>18224059 >>18224065

>>18224042
How do you bend space, lmao?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:00:37 No.18224048 Report

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>>18224046
>if we did it it would be very dangerous
okay

>>18224047
I don't fukken even know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:01:44 No.18224049 Report

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>>18224033
Calling it a meme is weird. The correct way to phrase it is that it's not physically possible. This ins't one of those "everything's impossible till it happens" things, it is in direct contradiction to physics. It's like saying "matter that is created from non-matter." It's meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:01:59 No.18224050 Report

Quoted By: >>18224052

>>18224042
i mean that isn't how physics works, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:03:37 No.18224051 Report

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>>18224033
Don't worry about it. We're past the peak of civilization already. What is left is a long journey back to the stone age curtesy of niggers and jews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:08:27 No.18224052 Report

Quoted By: >>18224064

>>18224050
Physics gets all wonky at the extremes.
I'm not saying that it's something humans can ever achieve, but I can't ever remember seeing any kind of absolute certainty that it's a strict impossibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:10:40 No.18224053 Report

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>>18224033
jump into neptune and be crushed in the diamond sea for the ultimate experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:10:43 No.18224054 Report

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>>18224035
Put orcas in galactic oceans again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:13:01 No.18224055 Report

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>>18224033
Solve the nigger/jew/spic/chink problem once and for all.
AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO BE FREE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:15:10 No.18224056 Report

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>>18224033
>what's the plan for the next millions of years?
I don't care, I will be dead.

A non

A non Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:16:13 No.18224057 Report

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>>18224033
Build boats and take over the ocean. First the floating cities, then the bridges connecting continents. Then underwater cities once cold fusion happens. Colonise the Sahara and take africa back from the zulus.

The world is great. In the same way out ancestors conquered other people's we can conquer nature itself. With the amount we've spent on space travel we could irrigate Australia.

We could set off earthquakes in the pacific and make 10,000 archipelago like Hawaii.

This planet would be so so amazing if everyone agreed what to do.

Artificial reefs under the surface build up until they reach the sea floor.

Sci fi has to lead the way first but the possibilities are endless turn this piece of rock into a garden. Problem is all Sci fi is dystopian at this point in time

A non

A non Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:17:36 No.18224058 Report

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>>18224035
>he doesn't know about the firm a mint

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:20:04 No.18224059 Report

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>>18224047
You bend space by creating a density of energy lower than the vacuum of space. This would make a bubble of space around an object that would travel frim the high density side of your space-energy bubble to the low-density side. I thought everybody knew that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:20:48 No.18224060 Report

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>>18224042
>make the measurement of the distance shorter and you'll get there faster!

literally "dial the sight to a higher number and the gun shoots harder" nigger tier

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:22:26 No.18224061 Report

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>>18224033
Learn how to access the dev tools

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:23:36 No.18224062 Report

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>>18224033
>what if something observably possible isn't possible
What if water WASN'T wet?!

A non

A non Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:23:46 No.18224063 Report

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>>18224060
What you do is record the exact frequency and energy of the position you want to be in then replecate it. This causes the cosmic computer to short out and you end up in both places at once. Then you just choose to be at the secondary position.

Worked for the Philadelphia experiment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:24:51 No.18224064 Report

Quoted By: >>18224066

>>18224052
>>18224042
See >>18224040

It violates causality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:25:50 No.18224065 Report

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>>18224047
Gravity

A non

A non Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:29:11 No.18224066 Report

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>>18224064
No you just make yourself unreachable space and time.
The Philadelphia experiment did just this. They were working on a way to be invisible to radar but accidentally made themselves invisible to all forces of nature.
You just separate yourself from the world via electromagnetism and some other words I don't understand and blam you can do anything. It's like copy and pasting yourself in a computer simulation.

It's probably how the fallen angels made pig human hybrids

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:34:34 No.18224067 Report

Quoted By: >>18224068

>>18224033
FTL is a meme and will never happen. regardless, galaxy colonization (and even galactic group colonization) remains very much possible with generation/seed ships/fleets.
still, it is imperative to build a dyson swarm first in order to secure practically infinite energy for this and other megaprojects.

A non

A non Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:39:32 No.18224068 Report

Quoted By: >>18224072

>>18224067
I'm inclined to agree but for the sake of being the voice of schizos I'm gonna keep pushing the phase transition and 4th dimensional travel meme.
If not here then where.

Also didn't we make one of these that could fly around earth perpetually. Take in cold air, super heat it, and propel it out the back? Love to see that revisited planet is fucked any way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:42:03 No.18224069 Report

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>>18224033
Well you can still travel inter stellar but it'll just take a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:42:35 No.18224070 Report

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>>18224033
>what if FTL space travel is a meme
It is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:43:47 No.18224071 Report

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>>18224033
terraform everything and slowly expand outward like a disease

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:44:54 No.18224072 Report

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>>18224068
FTL and other "clark-tech" is not entirely out of the picture since there's still no valid theory of gravity, dark energy or history of the universe (cosmic inflation is an absolute joke midwits made up to feel smart, pic related), but being too optimistic about tech that will only be invented 10000 years after your death is only going to turn you into a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:45:38 No.18224073 Report

Quoted By: >>18224076

>>18224042
>I mean, why not just bend space to make a shortcut?
Isn't that what a wormhole is? I mean...light passes through a wormhole. It's going to arrive at the end faster than a ship, but light that didn't pass through the wormhole wouldn't necessarily arrive there faster, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:45:56 No.18224074 Report

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>>18224033
>stuck in this solar system
Idiot, we'll never even make it off the earth, pay attention

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:46:26 No.18224075 Report

Quoted By: >>18224079

What a fucking stupid thread
FTL is impossible
You don't need it to travel the stars
Humans could colonise the entire galaxy in a million years at sub light speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:47:12 No.18224076 Report

Quoted By: >>18224080

>>18224073
Just because something has a name doesn't mean its possible
Why dont we just travel back in time? Because its impossible!
Stupid fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:47:34 No.18224077 Report

Quoted By: >>18224087

>>18224033
>what if FTL space travel is a meme and we're stuck in this solar system forever
>what's the plan for the next millions of years?

our civilisation collapses and never rises again because we have used up all the affordable to extract resources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:47:57 No.18224078 Report

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>>18224033
>next millions of years
with niggers and jews humans wont last another thousand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:48:18 No.18224079 Report

Quoted By: >>18224094

>>18224075
>Humans could colonise the entire galaxy in a million years at sub light speed

no we couldnt. stop your silly daydreams. such things are not possible for us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:48:22 No.18224080 Report

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>>18224076
>Why dont we just travel back in time?
Because time is an abstraction, not a tangible thing that can be manipulated or traversed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:49:26 No.18224081 Report

Quoted By: >>18224084

>>18224033
we already produce dark matter which allows us to speed up to 0.75 of light speed. Kugelblitz drives speed up to 0.8 or so.

So just jump from system to system every couple generations. we don't even know if we're correct. We got surface-level understanding of time-space and fundamental particles.

Additionally, each star system is absolutely enormous, enough for complete civilizational gaps with trillions of inhabitants unware of what other human descendants are doing or even being able to understand it.

we're only stuck in social-democracy that only has money for dem pro-gramz. not in some physical cage.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:49:59 No.18224082 Report

Quoted By: >>18224289

>>18224040
Sabine Hossenfelder says it's possible - I believe it - that's settles it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:50:06 No.18224083 Report

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>>18224033
>FTL
Most likely impossible.
The only way out is to either find ways to "freeze" humans (also most likely impossible) or to create self-sufficient ships that would take 20 000 years to get to destination.
We have the technology for the latter.
However, it will derail for sure, since you can't plan things for that many generations.
Basically, we're stuck here. Get fucked lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:50:39 No.18224084 Report

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>>18224081
excuse me, *antimatter. We can build massive solar arrays with meteor metal and farm this volatile fuel offworld

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:52:14 No.18224085 Report

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>>18224035
I'll grab the hose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 12:53:54 No.18224086 Report

Quoted By: >>18224089

>>18224033
Stop being stupid. The aliens are already here. Time is a joke to them, it goes faster the closer you are to their ships. Does that not tell you what you need to know? Why do you think there is no sonic boom? Time is going faster near their ship. Their ship isn't going as fast as you perceive it. Now what is going on INSIDE their ship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:02:53 No.18224087 Report

Quoted By: >>18224093

>>18224077
>our civilisation collapses
It already has....

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:04:56 No.18224088 Report

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What is /pol/'s favorite planet? For me it's Neptune.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:05:51 No.18224089 Report

Quoted By: >>18224091

>>18224086

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:07:01 No.18224090 Report

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>>18224033
>what's the plan for the next millions of years?
niggers everywhere everytime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:07:29 No.18224091 Report

Quoted By: >>18224092

>>18224089
It will come out soon. Something is happening that is forcing Congress forward at a rapid pace, which is improper for disclosure which needs to be a slow unravel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:10:39 No.18224092 Report

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>>18224091
https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment.pdf
This is a 64 page bill from one of, if not the (since Biden is a puppet) most powerful political individual in Washington.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:13:02 No.18224093 Report

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>>18224087
It has also collapsed several times in the past. Those are also only the times we have historic records of.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:18:12 No.18224094 Report

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>>18224079
you severely underestimate how long a million years is.
>galaxy diameter: 100kly
>sun distance to the center: 27kly
>distance to the farthest edge of the galaxy: ~75kly
>assuming 10% c max speed ships (e.g. nuclear pulse propulsion)
>assuming every new colony requires 5000 years to grow enough to send its own colony ships
>assuming every colony only makes its own colony every 5000 years (extremely conservative estimate)
>assuming the initial colony ship sent from earth departs with 10 colony modules and detaches 1 colony module every 7.5kly traveled
the math checks out. every single star in the entire milky way could be reached and colonized within 1 million years with 10% c top speed ships and extremely slow colony growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RYphslKP Sun 23 Jul 2023 13:35:00 No.18224289 Report

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>>18224082
i watched the video and as far i remember she dosent say in the video its possible, she just says the arguments that it is impossible are very weak. the title was more of a clickbait i guess. and even if its theoretically possible, dosent mean its practically possible to make a human faster than light. maybe there is something so far hidden for us which is discoverable and make it possible for us to travel faster than light, just like nobody in the 19 century would have imagined that you get make a 50 megaton explosion with a single bomb. but i have doubts because nowdays groundbreaking scientific discoveries seems to be rarer and rarer since many of the discoverable discoveries with practical usage for humans are already discovered.

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