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>>18458114
>>18458124
Do you have a problem with nationalism or with socialism? Are you aware that nationalism can be anti-imperialist in the same way that a person can be self-assured and self-advocating without being exploitative or aggressive towards others?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 15:58:31 No.18458167 Report

Quoted By: >>18458178

>>18458160
I did not know that

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 15:59:58 No.18458174 Report

Quoted By: >>18458188

>>18458160
Has real nationalist socialism ever been tried?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Au4fen2m Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:00:04 No.18458176 Report

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>>18458160
I'm an imperialist. The only thing that makes or breaks society is the quality of its leaders

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:00:14 No.18458178 Report

Quoted By: >>18458195

>>18458167
That's because we both come from countries with a history of suppressing nationalist movements around the world in the name of imperialism, and that same anti-nationalist messaging has pervaded our modern cultures.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:02:18 No.18458188 Report

Quoted By: >>18458208

>>18458174
Yeah, in Italy, but then Mussolini was won over by Hitler's retardcharm and the rest was history. There was a great deal of conflict between the genuine nationalists who cared about Italy and wanted to make their country into a great place for Italian people to live and the ruthless psychopaths and narcissists who just wanted to dominate and control. The lessons to be learned from Japan and Italy and Germany are that imperialism will destroy your nation eventually, and our countries(which belong to the same international financial empire) are not immune to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:03:42 No.18458195 Report

Quoted By: >>18458206

>>18458178
We are also both from a multi ethnic and multi cultural capitalist country. It seems unreasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:05:04 No.18458206 Report

Quoted By: >>18458210

>>18458195
The current regime's horseshit continuing is way more unreasonable. What's your alternative?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:05:17 No.18458208 Report

Quoted By: >>18458234

>>18458188
Mussolini attackedEthiopia, it was going to be a colony

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:05:39 No.18458210 Report

Quoted By: >>18458234

>>18458206
I like it here sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:11:28 No.18458234 Report

Quoted By: >>18458266

>>18458210
It's untenable. Your system can only exist in the context of American imperialism, which is coming to an end.
>>18458208
There were a lot more people involved in the Italian fascist government than just Mussolini.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:16:49 No.18458266 Report

Quoted By: >>18458284

>>18458234
My country was always multi cultural and lost of oppressed people came here.

Are you really trying to say that the attack on Ethiopië and the new Mare Nostrum was not of Mussolini?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:21:03 No.18458284 Report

Quoted By: >>18458326

>>18458266
Your country is one of the most imperialistic to ever exist along with mine, and you were pretty much the birthplace the modern international financial empire. The Dutch East India Company was the first megacorporation. The Netherlands and the USA are what happens when you let perfidious capitalist sociopaths to run countries in the name of private profit.
>Are you really trying to say that the attack on Ethiopië and the new Mare Nostrum was not of Mussolini?
No. Why would that be my point? See my earlier post:
>There was a great deal of conflict between the genuine nationalists who cared about Italy and wanted to make their country into a great place for Italian people to live and the ruthless psychopaths and narcissists who just wanted to dominate and control.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:26:59 No.18458326 Report

Quoted By: >>18458338

>>18458284
Ok agreed. But it was also multi ethnic and multi cultural.
I just think that makes our countries so successful

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:30:03 No.18458338 Report

Quoted By: >>18458350

>>18458326
You can have multiple ethnicities that come together as one nation.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:31:46 No.18458350 Report

Quoted By: >>18458427

>>18458338
But not with nationalist socialism.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:42:54 No.18458427 Report

Quoted By: >>18458437

>>18458350
Says who?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:44:41 No.18458437 Report

Quoted By: >>18458444

>>18458427
I just did

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:45:26 No.18458444 Report

Quoted By: >>18458467

>>18458437
Cuba disagrees with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:48:33 No.18458467 Report

Quoted By: >>18458484

>>18458444
Is that good or bad? In your opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:50:04 No.18458484 Report

Quoted By: >>18458521

>>18458467
Good or bad has nothing to do with it. The fact of the matter is, you can have a multi-ethnic society that is both nationalist and socialist. That is something that can exist, and does.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:53:46 No.18458521 Report

Quoted By: >>18458568

>>18458484
And Cuba is an example?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:58:22 No.18458568 Report

Quoted By: >>18458625

>>18458521
Yes. Cuba is
>nationalist
>socialist
>multi-ethnic

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 17:05:36 No.18458625 Report

Quoted By: >>18458644

>>18458568
And they own nothing and they are happy, sure. But it's communisme they have there. Also they have the same problem as with nationalist socialism, if you don't like it you are not allowed to form a political party that will try to reverse it.

I would ask you to go to Cube on holiday and report back from there, but they don't have internet so you can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 17:10:02 No.18458644 Report

Quoted By: >>18458652

>>18458625
Cuba only embraced Marxism because the faggots in the US government told him to fuck off, and it was to their detriment. Fascism and communism both have the same ultimate goal; one is just kiked up and the other isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 17:12:47 No.18458652 Report

Quoted By: >>18458654 >>18458996

>>18458644
Ok I don't think we can get to agree here today. Lets you agree to disagree.
I want to say that I hope you get want you want, but I really don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5X9FjuYS Sat 19 Aug 2023 17:13:09 No.18458654 Report

Quoted By: >>18458996

>>18458652
*us

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:u+5D4OaI Sat 19 Aug 2023 17:20:51 No.18458996 Report

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>>18458652
>>18458654
>he doesn't want society to be structured in a way that gives power the people of a nation rather than rich bankers and other soulless business parasites
Fuck the Dutch.

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