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What do couples even talk about? Do they perpetually stay in the "Hey bae" "i love u bae" phase until they break up? I've never seen couples have meaningful conversations beyond baby talking to each other. Ever. They either love-bomb each other or flip out and threaten to break up over insipid drama shit. I used to be the idiot who unironically talked to women "as people" discussing my hobbies and interests with them like I would with my guy friends, but the more I treated women as "human beings" the deeper into the friendzone I went, the more in common we had the more they saw me as a "brother" like figure or even worse a "bestie".