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>the first great civilization in Europe was the Minoans of the Island of Crete, who the Greeks called Pelasgians, their religion centered on the worship of a hiero gamos (sacred sexual marriage) of a infant/young solar agrarian bull god who dies and resurrects called "Welchanos" with a virgin mountain/labyrinth/animal goddess called "Diktynna", "Britomartis", or "Potnia (Theron)", she commanded a entire pantheon of cthonic (linked to the underworld) deities. Herodotus mentioned that Pelasgians worshipped the Cabeiri (some daemons/numens linked to Rhea/Cybele and Baby Zeus/Attis) >the Minoan worship consisted of LARPing the roles of these two gods with ritual sex and human sacrifice, the Minoans/Pelasgians were very influenced by the ancient Middle Eastern religions in this regard, especially the Sumerians with the god Dumuzi (Tammuz/Adonis), the lover of the goddess Inanna (Ishtar/Astarte), who ended up being trapped after going through the seven gates of the underworld but was saved by her shepherd who took her place there >the Chaldean/Babylonian historian Berossus says that during Sacaea, a holiday similar to Saturnalia/Christmas where social roles were reversed (masters served slaves), a death-sentenced prisoner became king, had ritual sex with sacred prostitutes, was tortured/whipped and then crucified. Sounds familiar? >when the Hellenic/Greek peoples (Ionians, Achaeans, Aeolians and Dorians) arrived in Europe, they syncretized their religion with the Pelasgians/Minoans, Welchanos then became Zeus (Jupiter), Dionysus/Zagreus (Bacchus), Hephaestus (Vulcan), etc... and Britomartis became Rhea/Cybele, Hera, Artemis/Diana, Athena, etc... >according to the Roman historian Tacitus, the Jews emerged from the island of Crete (Minoans) and Egypt during the Fall of Saturn >the Greeks/Romans associated Yahweh with the gods Dionysus/Bacchus and Typhon (Seth). They and the Egyptians called Moses Osarseph (Osar comes from Osiris, which the Greeks consider Dionysus)
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>the Greeks/Romans said that the Phoenicians called Dionysus Iao (from Yahweh) and Sabaoth (from Sabazius), the Chaldean Oracles also say this >Dionysus' mount, like Hephaestus, was the donkey, the animal of Typhon (Seth). Hephaestus actually shares a similar origin myth to Hephaestus where Hera tries to conceive a child without Zeus and gives birth to Hephaestus/Typhon, disgusted, throwing them off Mount Olympus >Seth/Typhon's association with the Jews because of the Hyksos in Greek/Roman writings influenced by Manetho inspired the Gnostic Demiurge, Yaldabaoth, who is a craftsman/architect like Hephaestus who tried to rape Athena, the Gnostic Sophia >the Cabeiri in Greek Mythology were considered children of Hephaestus, they were described as crab men, the Jewish month of Tammuz is represented by a crab, the sign of Cancer of Zodiac, which appeared when Hera placed in the the stars a a giant crab was created by her to hinder Hercules during his fight against Hydra
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>>20426531 Nigga that's nuts!
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>Velchanos, properly Welchanos (Greek: Ϝελχάνος, Welkhános), Gelchanos (Γελχάνος, Gelkhános), or Elchanos (Ελχάνος, Elkhános), is an ancient Minoan god associated with vegetation and worshipped in Crete. He was one of the main deities in the Minoan pantheon, alongside a Mother Goddess figure who appears to have been his mother and consort, with the two participating in an hieros gamos >The cult of Velchanos was likely influenced by the Mesopotamian deity Dumuzid. Following the rise of Mycenaean Greece and contact with the Minoans, Velchanos' cult influenced that of Zeus, who was at times referred to by Greeks under the name Zeus Velchanos. Other possible influences include the Roman deity Vulcan (Hephaestus) >According to Arthur Evans, a tree cult played one of the most important aspects of the Minoan religion in ancient Crete. In this cult, two deities were worshipped; one male and one female. In this tree cult, while the Mother Goddess was viewed as a personification of tree-vegetation, the male god formed a "concrete image of the vegetation itself in the shape of a divine child or a youth", with the two forming a mother and child relationship. Given the role of the hieros gamos between the two, it has been theorized that Velchanos was partially based on the Mesopotamian Dumuzid >Coins from Phaistos depicted Zeus Velchanos with a cock in his lap. These coins also depicted him with an oak tree. He was also depicted with a bull. At other times, Velchanos was depicted as an eagle
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YHWH is the Sky Father of the Hittites (the Indo-European White God and only God, the Creator of the Universe). That's why God is called The Father and not The Master like the Semitic Deity (Ba'al, Bel, etc)
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>>20426531 >roll reversal >sound familiar Yeah bro, I pay hookers big money for that stuff, and then I too enjoyi nailing them to pieces of wood, if you catch my drift.
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>>20426531 >>20426532 I understand half of what you're talking about and not wanting to look up the other half is pissing me off.
I'll bump this though
At a certain point, an intelligent post is just too niche to be of any importance to most posters. I've had posts sorta like this that got no attention because I forgot everyone else was retarded
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>>20426531 Jewish god is a pedo god.
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wait a minute since when did a 500 year old hebrewnigger fable become a part of white aryan history? is christianity just a jew larp?
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>>20426534 >Babylon worshipped the patron deities Ishtar and Tammuz. Ishtar, depending on the period, was also known as Inanna or Sarpanit, but was associated with the planet Venus broadly speaking. Her symbol was an eight-pointed star called the star of Ishtar, and would later become known to monotheists as the Whore of Babylon. Her consort was Tammuz, also known as Marduk, Bel, or Dumuzid, who represented the the planet Jupiter. Religious rituals surrounding these two deities involved sexual rites known as sacred prostitution, or sex magic. These rituals were performed as reenactments of Ishtar's mythologised origin stories >In one of these myths a dying god archetype called Thammuz is resurrected by Ishtar through baptism, making her an earth mother archetype: >“In Babylonian legend, the goddess Istar descends to Hades to fetch the water of life with which to restore to life the dead Thammuz, and it appears that the water was thrown over him at a great mourning ceremony, at which men and women stood round the funeral pyre of Thammuz lamenting.” —The Golden Bough, James G. Frazer vol I, p287. 2 >The Babylonians also held an annual festival called Sacaea, which went for five days and ended with a resurrection ritual where a human sacrifice taking on the role of the king, who had come to represent a dying god, was whipped and then crucified Anonymous
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what were the Minoans influenced by?
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>>20426540 >“According to the historian Berosus, who as a Babylonian priest spoke with ample knowledge, there was annually celebrated in Babylon a festival called the Sacaea. . .During these five days masters and servants changed places, the servants giving orders and the masters obeying them. A prisoner condemned to death was dressed in the king’s robes, seated on the king’s throne, allowed to issue whatever commands he pleased, to eat, drink, and enjoy himself, and to lie with the king’s concubines. But at the end of the five days he was stripped of his royal robes, scourged, and crucified." —The Golden Bough, James G. Frazer, vol I, p226 >Another annual Babylonian festival, which went for twelves days in December, was called Zagmuk. It involved sacred prostitution rites using priestesses from the Temple of Venus in Babylon representing Ishtar, who would have ritualistic sex with the king, representing the dying god Tammuz, who would then be killed afterwards. Though they would come to use a substitution sacrifice in the place of the king to circumvent having to ordain a new leader annually >So we have three religious traditions happening in Babylon and closely associated with Ishtar around 2 BC: >A ritual reenactment of a resurrection through baptism >A ritual of death and resurrection using a human sacrifice who is whipped and then crucified >A ritual of sacred prostitution performed during a twelve day festival held annually in December Anonymous
>>20426542 >Adonis was equated with Tammuz by Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Jerome. Origen said Tammuz (Dumuzi) was his real name and that Adonis was his title, “Lord”, just like the Biblical “Adonai”, meaning "Lord", or Adoni-Zedek, king of Jerusalem >He is portrayed like a shepherd by Virgil in the first century B.C., similar to Dumuzi, and a fourth century commentary adds that this was because Adonis was “formerly a shepherd.” Dumuzi is referred in myth as “the Shepherd,” just as Jesus is the “Good Shepherd”. The Sumerian king list refers to one Dumuzi as “the Shepherd” and another as “the Fisherman,” a symbol also used for Jesus’ disciples, who are described as fishermen who were then called by Jesus to become “fishers of men” >Jerome claims that the birth shrine of Jesus in Bethlehem was rededicated to Tammuz-Adonis, but the shrine more likely originated with Tammuz-Adonis since the word Bethlehem means “House of Bread” or “House of Lahmu.” Lahmu is the serpentine gatekeeper of Dumuzi’s father Enki, a role that was typically given to an earlier manifestation of the god himself, just as Dumuzi and Gizzida appear to have some links to ancient serpent gods from the prehsitoric Ubaid era. A 13,000-year-old stone figurine of two lovers embracing, similar to those of Dumuzi and Inanna, was discovered in the Ain Sakhri caves near Bethlehem >Dionysus was variably known with the following epithets: >Adoneus, a rare archaism in Roman literature, a Latinised form of Adonis, used as epithet for Bacchus. Anonymous
>>20426543 >NON-JEWISH EVIDENCE CONCERNING IAOU >Diodorus Siculus, writing early in our era concerning the real or supposititious legislators of the various races of Mankind, tells us that: >"Among the Jews, Moses pretended that the God surnamed lao gave him his laws." >This seems to imply that the Jews were not the only race which knew of a God named Iao or laou >Let us, therefore, having shown from the internal evidence of the Old Testament, that the Israelites, right down to the time when the Assyrians swept them from the page of history, and the Jews down to within half a century of the time when the Temple records were burnt and they themselves were driven as captives into Chaldæa, worshipped the Canaanitish Baal or Sun-God, now see if there is any external evidence concerning a God named lao or laou, who may have been worshipped in other lands than that of Canaan >First let it be noted, however, that there is in the British Museum a very ancient coin from Gaza, upon which is represented the Canaanitish Baal or Sun-God, and written over him, in old Phoenician characters, the word "Iaou." >That the word in question occurs upon Assyrian monuments as the name of a deity has already been pointed out. That deity seems to have been a Phoenician one. And the Phoenicians and Canaanites were one and the same people, as St. Augustine has borne witness >But little can be found-perhaps but little was allowed to survive-concerning this God Iao in such works as the Christian Church allowed to come down to us. We learn, however, from Cedrennus, that: >"lao is among the Chaldæans interpreted as meaning Intelligent Light in the Phoenician tongue, and Sabaoth as meaning Over the Seven Heavens, that is, the Creator God." Anonymous
>>20426544 >Julian bears witness as follows: >"The Phœnicians, who were wise and skilful in divine matters, declared that the rays proceeding in all directions were the unmixed energy of the One Pure Intelligence itself." >The testimony of Lydus is also important. In one place he writes: >"Sabaoth, the Creator: for thus do the Phoenicians name the creative number." >And elsewhere he tells us that: >"The Chaldæans call the God Dionysos 'lao,' which in the Phœnician language means 'Intelligent Light.' He is also often called Sabaoth, as Master of the Seven Heavens or Creator." >This declaration of Lydus that the Chaldæan called the Sun-God Dionysos or Bacchus "Iao" is noteworthy, especially when we remember that the Sun-God Adonis, and the Adonai translated Lord throughout our version of the Hebrew Scriptures, seem to have been one and the same deity. For Adonis and Dionysos were the same. As Plutarch has told us: >"They think Adonis to be the same as Dionysos." >The identity of the Canaanitish Baal, and of lao, Bacchus, Dionysos, and Adonis; with the Hebrew Adonai or laou, is moreover borne out by yet another passage to be found in the works of Plutarch. For elsewhere this famous historian says: >"Then, o Lamprius, do you include among the unutterable things of the Hebrews our country's God Dionysos? Trouble him not, replied Moiragencs, for I as an Athenian can answer for you, and do say that he (the God of the Hebrews) is none other. But the greater part of the evidences to that effect can be told and taught only to those initiated with us into the full triennial solemnity." >That the God Dionysos, whom Plutarch identifies with laou the God of the Hebrews, was the Sun or Sun-God, is well known. For instance, Macrobius tells us: >"In the following verse Orpheus declares the Sun to be Dionysos: 'Elios (Helios), whom men do surname Dionysos.'" >Moreover, Labeo demonstrated that lao, Father Bacchus, and Elios (Helios), the Sun, were one and the same Anonymous
>>20426545 >And Macrobius records the famous Oracle of lao which emanated from the Temple of the Sun-God at Klarnos, in the following words: >"The Clarian Apollo having been asked which deity was the one to be called lao, pronounced thus: It is but right that the Initiated should keep secret the ineffable mysteries, for prudence necessitates a certain measure of deceit on the part of the adroit mind. But it may be explained that lao is the most-high God and above all others. He is Aides (Hades) in winter and Zeus at the coming of spring-time, in the summer heat he is Elios (Helios), and at the close of autumn the tender Iao." >At the Feast of laou, as the Feast of Tabernacles was called, the Levites were in the habit of shouting Hallelujah or Alleluia, Praise-ye-la, at frequent intervals. It is a remarkable fact that at the triennial festival of Bacchus or Dionysos the same repeated cry of la was made, and that the Feast of laou or Feast of Tabernacles was neither more nor less than an exactly similar feast to that of the Sun-God Bacchus or Dionysos, and held at the same time of year as a thanks giving for the corn, wine, and oil, secured in the harvest. As Plutarch has told us: >"The time and manner of the greatest and most holy solemnity of the Jews are exactly the same as the holy orgies of Bacchus. " >We are told elsewhere of a very Bacchic practice of the Jews in connection with their Feast of laou: >"No less than one hundred and forty logs of wine were often used in the sacrifices." >As to Hallelujah, Alleluia, or Praise-ye-la, this exclamation of the Hebrews seems to be merely an adaptation of the Eleleu le with which the ancient Greeks began and ended their hymns to the Sun-God Apollo. "Hallelujah" is placed in exactly the same way at the beginning and end of many of the Psalms, as was "Eleleu Ie" at the beginning and end of much older hymns to Apollo Anonymous
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>>20426546 >“Alala” and “Eleleu” Greek legendary battle cries >''ἐλελεῦ ἐλελεῦ, ὡς τὸ ἀλαλά, «ἐπίφθεγμα πολεμικόν, οἱ προσιόντες γὰρ εἰς πόλεμον τὸ ἐλελεῦ ἐφώνουν μετά τινος ἐμμελοῦς κινήσεως'' >When they marched toward their enemies in their organized phalanx formations, Ancient Greek troops typically belted out battle hymns, or “paeans,” designed to invoke the god Apollo and help calm their nerves. Once within striking distance, however, they would cease their singing and break into a full-throated battle cry of “Alala!” or “Eleleu!” while banging their weapons against their shields to spook enemy horses. When voiced by thousands of spear-wielding hoplites, these cries were said to resemble the sound of flocks of screeching birds, and they were so well known that the ancient writer Pindar even addressed them in a 5th century B.C. poem. “Hear me, Alala,” he wrote, “daughter of Ares, prelude of the spears, you to whom men fall as offerings for their homeland in death’s holy sacrifice.” >Η αρχαία ιαχή αλαλά προήλθε από τη μυθική κόρη του Πολέμου, την Αλαλά (Πίνδαρος, απ. 225: Κλυθ΄ Αλαλά Πολέμου θυγατέρα). Απ εδώ προήλθαν οι λέξεις αλαλαγή, αλάλαγμα Anonymous
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The Egyptian-Hittie-Ugaritic-Babylonian-Assyrian hodge podge of deities have a concurrent existence.
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>>20426535 >YHWH is the Sky Father You made that up
>of the Hittites You made that up
>That's why God is called The Father You made that up. (You also made an error, Yahweh isn't called "God". He's called κύριος "Lord".
>and not The Master like the Semitic Deity (Ba'al, Bel, etc) Ba'al means lord/master. Yahweh is called Adonai/κύριος "Lord". Yahweh actually replaced Ba'al and assumed his roles. Also, Yahweh is semitic. There's no contrast here.
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>>20426543 >>20426544 >>20426545 >>20426546 >The Chaldæans call the God (Dionysus or Bacchus) Iao in the Phœnician tongue (instead of the intelligible light), and he is often called Sabaoth, signifying that he is above the seven poles, that is the Demiurgus. Lyd. de Mens. 83.—Tay. >They gave him charge of the seventh heaven, below the veil between above and below. And he is called 'God of the forces, Sabaoth,' since he is up above the forces of chaos." (The Hypostasis of the Archons, Gnostic papyri) >Sabaoth - Also called Lord Sabaoth, Sabaoth the Good and Adonaiu. The Gnostic Sabaoth is much wiser than his father, Ialdabaoth. He supplanted his father in the Light and is installed as ruler of the seven heavens by Sophia and Zoe. Ialdabaoth, who is cast down into Chaos, jealously wages war against him >In Gnostic texts, Jesus tells how the powers of Sabaoth the Adamas (Indomnitable) had been bound by Jeou, "Father of my Father," to the wheel of time. One of these powers, Iabraoth, became converted and was instated higher up, while Sabaoth the Adamas remained obstinately attached to his lower works and was bound to the sphere. According to Jesus, Sabaoth's son is named Taricheas, the god worshipped by certain Gnostic sects who held orgies and practiced impure rituals. Jesus said the god of this sect had the face of a wild boar with tusks, and on the back side of his head is another face, that of a lion >Epiphanius of Salamis, the bishop of Salamis, Cyprus at the end of the 4th century, reports that Severian Encratites (also associated with Sethians) believed Sabaoth and Ialdabaoth to be one and the same, the God of law, and therefore evil. Celsus, a 2nd-century Greek philosopher, identified Ialdabaoth with Cronus and Sabaoth and Adonai with Zeus. Origen (c. 184 – c. 253) denies the equation Anonymous
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>>20426544 >This one thing is proof jews pronounced YHWH as Ἰαῶ No, it's not. You do realize Greek and Hebrew are different languages and Greek didn't even have /j/ or /w/, right? Native ancient Greek speakers couldn't even pronounce all the consonants of YHWH (or accurately spell it in the Greek alphabet for that matter)
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>>20426531 wtf i love Yahweh now
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>>20426550 >According to Jesus, Sabaoth's son is named Taricheas, the god worshipped by certain Gnostic sects who held orgies and practiced impure rituals. Jesus said the god of this sect had the face of a wild boar with tusks, and on the back side of his head is another face, that of a lion Fun Fact: In Sumerian/Babylonian Mythology, Dumuzi/Tammuz was killed by a boar/pig, which was an animal of the god Ninib/Ninurta, the Sumerian/Babylonian Saturn. Seth, the killer of Osiris, also had as an animal, in addition to the donkey, the boar/pig. This is why the Egyptians/Greek-Romans thought that Jews didn't eat pork.
https://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8604-jerusalem >In the El-Amarna Tablets >The earliest historical notices respecting Jerusalem come from the El-Amarna tablets. Before the fifteenth century B.C. Babylonian influences must have been present. There was a city called "Bit-Ninib" (Temple of the God Ninib) in the "district of Jerusalem "(Letter 180, 25) https://sacred-texts.com/ane/mba/mba19.htm >Saturn was Nirig, who is best known as Ninip, a deity who was displaced by Enlil, the elder Bel, and afterwards regarded as his son. His story has not been recovered, but from the references made to it there is little doubt that it was a version of the widespread myth about the elder deity who was slain by his son, as Saturn was by Jupiter and Dyaus by Indra. It may have resembled the lost Egyptian myth which explained the existence of the two Horuses--Horus the elder, and Horus, the posthumous son of Osiris. At any rate, it is of interest to find in this connection that in Egypt the planet Saturn was Her-Ka, "Horus the Bull". Ninip was also identified with the bull. Both deities were also connected with the spring sun, like Tammuz, and were terrible slayers of their enemies. Ninip raged through Babylonia like a storm flood, and Horus swept down the Nile, slaying the followers of Set Anonymous
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>Yahweh was the [blah, blah, blah bait full of schizo bullshit]
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>>20426553 >>469779613 >As the divine sower of seed, Ninip may have developed from Tammuz as Horus did from Osiris. Each were at once the father and the son, different forms of the same deity at various seasons of the year. The elder god was displaced by the son (spring), and when the son grew old his son slew him in turn. As the planet Saturn, Ninip was the ghost of the elder god, and as the son of Bel he was the solar war god of spring, the great wild bull, the god of fertility. He was also as Ber "lord of the wild boar", an animal associated with Rimmon >The god of Mars was Nergal, the patron deity of Cuthah, who descended into the Underworld and forced into submission Eresh-ki-gal (Persephone), with whom he was afterwards associated. His "name", says Professor Pinches, "is supposed to mean 'lord of the great habitation', which would be a parallel to that of his spouse, Eresh-ki-gal". At Erech he symbolized the destroying influence of the sun, and was accompanied by the demons of pestilence. Mars was a planet of evil, plague, and death; its animal form was the wolf. In Egypt it was called Herdesher, "the Red Horus", and in Greece it was associated with Ares (the Roman Mars), the war god, who assumed his boar form to slay Adonis (Tammuz) Sabaoth is associated with Mars because it means "of Hosts/Armies".
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_Golden_Bough_(1922).djvu/495 >For in historical times the fear and horror of the pig seem certainly to have outweighed the reverence and worship of which he may once have been the object, and of which, even in his fallen state, he never quite lost trace. He came to be looked on as an embodiment of Set or Typhon, the Egyptian devil and enemy of Osiris. For it was in the shape of a black pig that Typhon injured the eye of the god Horus, who burned him and instituted the sacrifice of the pig, the sun-god Ra having declared the beast abominable Anonymous
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>>20427129 >Again, the story that Typhon was hunting a boar when he discovered and mangled the body of Osiris, and that this was the reason why pigs were sacrificed once a year, is clearly a modernised version of an older story that Osiris, like Adonis and Attis, was slain or mangled by a boar, or by Typhon in the form of a boar >Thus, the annual sacrifice of a pig to Osiris might naturally be interpreted as vengeance inflicted on the hostile animal that had slain or mangled the god. But, in the first place, when an animal is thus killed as a solemn sacrifice once and once only in the year, it generally or always means that the animal is divine, that he is spared and respected the rest of the year as a god and slain, when he is slain, also in the character of a god. In the second place, the examples of Dionysus and Demeter, if not of Attis and Adonis, have taught us that the animal which is sacrificed to a god on the ground that he is the god's enemy may have been, and probably was, originally the god himself >Therefore, the annual sacrifice of a pig to Osiris, coupled with the alleged hostility of the animal to the god, tends to show, first, that originally the pig was a god, and, second, that he was Osiris. At a later age, when Osiris became anthropomorphic and his original relation to the pig had been forgotten, the animal was first distinguished from him, and afterwards opposed as an enemy to him by mythologists who could think of no reason for killing a beast in connexion with the worship of a god except that the beast was the god's enemy; or, as Plutarch puts it, not that which is dear to the gods, but that which is the contrary, is fit to be sacrificed Anonymous
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