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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:43:54 No.20826656 View View Reply Original Report

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"You have to be smart to play chess!"
"Chess is the HIGHEST IQ game there is!"
"Grandmasters are the most intelligent people in the world!"
>Magnus Son Of Carl enters the room
"Me prove you wrong"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:46:18 No.20826657 Report

Quoted By: >>20826662

Chess only matters when generals play it. It's a wargame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:46:58 No.20826658 Report

Quoted By: >>20826664 >>20826666 >>20826667 >>20826668 >>20826680 >>20826686 >>20826691

Chess only takes a high IQ in terms of being able to memorize a lot and recall it in a fairly quick manner, it's not an actual skill based game it's just a rote memorization game. These people will have a higher chance of losing against an untrained amateur (not a person who knows nothing, but someone who is familiar but not beyond a 'for fun' level) than with another pro because the only thing they know how to do is repeat actions based on what actions they've programmed in to their head already.

Opponent does x (the zimnigger sequence!) so I shall do the spichancement challenge in return! The moment they can't identify what you're doing they fall apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:47:24 No.20826659 Report

Quoted By: >>20826672

>>20826656
He is no Bobby in his prime, but hasn't he won GM like 5 or 6 times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:48:23 No.20826660 Report

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>>20826656
Only unsmart people think memorizing moves makes you smart. And that's 90% of what most will be doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:48:51 No.20826661 Report

Quoted By: >>20826670

>>20826656
Professional Chess is the worlds greatest memorization competition

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:49:04 No.20826662 Report

Quoted By: >>20826699

>>20826657
Nukes are a wargame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:50:24 No.20826663 Report

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>>20826656
Magnus is an autist who lives in chess world. He's also Swedish. He has a lot going against him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:50:25 No.20826664 Report

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>>20826658
Based. Fuck chess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:52:25 No.20826665 Report

Quoted By: >>20826669

>>20826656
take off the gangstalking and trauma and then we can talk
mensa test coming in <5 years, then things will be settled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:52:48 No.20826666 Report

Quoted By: >>20826701

>>20826658
>it's pure memorization
False. Only the opening and part of the midgame is memorization. After that, a lot of these high-level chess matches end up with board positions that have not been reached before. There is nothing to memorize because it is a new game that has never been played before. You have to be able to think quickly within the rules of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:53:04 No.20826667 Report

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>>20826658
so...checkers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:53:23 No.20826668 Report

Quoted By: >>20826671

>>20826658
Cope harder. Chess is the only game where will vs will is on display with the interference of a GUI (be it your body or a computer). Beating another man in chess is the most sure way that you and you alone have won.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:53:35 No.20826669 Report

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>>20826665
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:53:56 No.20826670 Report

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>>20826661
Rare.

And this is correct

It’s the zoomer popper game live-streamed on twitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:54:18 No.20826671 Report

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>>20826668
I always did the best when I took it personally and felt hatred for the flag facing me, take that for what you will

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:54:53 No.20826672 Report

Quoted By: >>20826674

>>20826659
he literally is bobby. Quitting in his prime because nobody can challenge him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:56:25 No.20826673 Report

Quoted By: >>20826675 >>20826685 >>20826693

>>20826656

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:58:44 No.20826674 Report

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>>20826672
>Quitting in his prime because nobody can challenge him.
drew 2 world championships in classical, and has won like 3 real classical tournaments (we don't count chesscom memecoin niggercup) in last 3 years

his pr is on messi level of delusion lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:00:21 No.20826675 Report

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>>20826673
>Chess grandmaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:02:10 No.20826676 Report

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Chess would be cool if it was an FPS with quickscopes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:04:28 No.20826677 Report

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>>20826656
>"You have to be smart to play chess!"
>"Chess is the HIGHEST IQ game there is!"
>"Grandmasters are the most intelligent people in the world!"
Said literally nobody.
Almost all super grandmasters are literal retards and it's not even a secret. Look: Nakamura, Kramnik, Nepo[.....]

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:04:29 No.20826678 Report

Quoted By: >>20826679

If I'm not rated 1800 on Chess.com in 5 years, I'll cut my own right arm off and post it on /po/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:05:08 No.20826679 Report

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>>20826678
YOU WANN AFUCK WITH ME?
I FUCK WITH YOU,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:05:40 No.20826680 Report

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>>20826658
>Chess only takes a high IQ in terms of being able to memorize a lot and recall it in a fairly quick manner, it's not an actual skill based game it's just a rote memorization game
That's just cope of retards who heard about le opening theory from different retards. Pure bullshit.

>people will have a higher chance of losing against an untrained amateur (not a person who knows nothing, but someone who is familiar but not beyond a 'for fun' level) than with another pro
You have no idea how chess works lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:06:41 No.20826681 Report

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Honestly I need a board with no squares, so I can just feel the energy of the overall field. That would help my training. Because we all know how the pieces move, we all know what a square is, roughly. But to feel the entire field without demarcation, this is priceless.

goyslop game

goyslop game Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:07:30 No.20826682 Report

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sagar is the best chess commentator. i cant get enough of his videos on youtube
> and hee finds it!
> wow, what a move.
> he must place king d2
> yes!
> knight G3
> that's a very interesting move
> you see.. praggnanda is preparing to castle
> oh my god...
> white devel up ment
> and he blunders! that's actually a good move.
> what a move by gukesh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:07:55 No.20826683 Report

Quoted By: >>20826684

Time wasting brain/body drain for indians
Games involving sacrifice and manipulation as a means of winning shouldn't looked at in high regard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:10:01 No.20826684 Report

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>>20826683
You're right.
For Aryans, we should be killing shit to feel the best. Animals, Jews, whatever comes on the plate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:11:22 No.20826685 Report

Quoted By: >>20826687 >>20826689 >>20826693

>>20826673
To be fair all those online IQ tests including the MENSA ones are retarded.
You don’t get proper IQ score unless you go and pay for actual IQ testing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:11:36 No.20826686 Report

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>>20826658
Wrong. In chess there are millions if not billions of possibilities implicated on the current position of the board, and to be good at it you need to think of all of them very quickly. If you think of it in terms of computer science, it's like a brute force algorithm, the faster your CPU is the faster you'll solve it. You can't be a chess champion without being a genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:16:21 No.20826687 Report

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>>20826685
Why are you giving me 11 22 bro
You will eat your shorts in 5 years, when I will test over you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:17:43 No.20826688 Report

Quoted By:

>>20826656
Carlsen isn't the best example desu, Kramnik is genuinely retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:18:53 No.20826689 Report

Quoted By: >>20826690

>>20826685
You think because you're from Sweden, and I was born in a village in Bosnia, resisting the Ottoman invasion and staying Catholic, you think you are better than me? Smarter? You think you can test better? When I deal with the trauma, I will shit on you with an IQ score, you come to a middle arena we will do it side by side.
In my family, I have a surgeon, I have engineers, I have teachers, I have extraordinary blue collar workers, all from an illiterate village that refused to convert to Mohamedism.

You want to spit on me? I spit on you.
We are 2000 miles away, and many levels of income apart, but you are not better than me.
The only thing better about you is your God-given geography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:21:19 No.20826690 Report

Quoted By: >>20826694

>>20826689
>We are 2000 miles away

No, I don’t think we are that far from each other.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:21:31 No.20826691 Report

Quoted By: >>20826692

>>20826658
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:23:22 No.20826692 Report

Quoted By: >>20826695

>>20826691
This quote is misunderstood by normalfags who don't play chess. Fischer was talking about prearranging matches by the Soviets here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:23:26 No.20826693 Report

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>>20826673
>>20826685
That's sounds like cope.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:24:48 No.20826694 Report

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>>20826690
Don't lose your scope, bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:26:02 No.20826695 Report

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>>20826692
>misunderstood by normalfags
Pure cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P349BdHUxlc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:26:12 No.20826696 Report

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>>20826656
Chess is much like cuckoldry, black enters and mates by taking your queen

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:26:45 No.20826697 Report

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>do nothing
>win
superior board game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:27:04 No.20826698 Report

Quoted By: >>20826700 >>20826703

All of the modern grandmasters have been playing chess their whole lives. Every day since they could pick up chess pieces has been nothing but chess, chess, and more chess. They've hardly learned anything that doesn't involve chess. Their brain is specialized in chess and only chess.

Perceived intelligence is a complicated thing, but the important thing it needs is good social skills, which grandmasters lack since that is not chess. A person who seems intelligence is like a general-purpose PC, while grandmasters are like specialized computers that can only play chess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:29:55 No.20826699 Report

Quoted By:

>>20826662
Oh, then I know where they go to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:30:46 No.20826700 Report

Quoted By:

>>20826698
What you're talking about is 5 good years of 60 hours a week, to mimic a Grandmaster for general purposes.
Can a peasant emulate that? If he bought a bunch of bitcoin at the right time and chilled out.
AKA, not likely.
For the rest of us, let's focus on the concrete, and not take too many personal hits for our chess failings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:32:08 No.20826701 Report

Quoted By: >>20826702

>>20826666
I suppose, but even endgames can be learned and are solveable, so it is largely a matter of pattern recognition and being the first to promote a pawn. Of course, that requires substantial calculation and identifying the most important variables. That's what separates the geniuses from the pedants

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:33:58 No.20826702 Report

Quoted By: >>20826704 >>20826705

>>20826701
If someone could hone you in, if you had access to intense, specific knowledge, and intensive training, 80% of people could catch up fast.

As always, it's the access to information, not the processing of information at the individual level, that determines success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:34:05 No.20826703 Report

Quoted By: >>20826705

>>20826698
the same could be said about any discipline. what separates these people from people with 'general intelligence' is the skillset to dive deeply and specialize in any domain. They can apply the same principles to any endeavour if and when they decide to retire from chess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:34:57 No.20826704 Report

Quoted By: >>20826706

>>20826702
engines have democratized the game substantially

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:34:58 No.20826705 Report

Quoted By:

>>20826703
No, man, it's this:
>>20826702

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:35:58 No.20826706 Report

Quoted By:

>>20826704
Engines are engines.
We are talking about the individual power to solve, the Measure of Man, which will never go away.
AI will take away the economic application, but the tests of our own will will always remain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:38:03 No.20826707 Report

Quoted By: >>20826708

Chess is like a reaction and memorization game not really smart after enough reps. And it doesn’t really take that many reps. I bet there are statically better opens and closing formations that are easy to set up that would prove chess is by stats easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:39:36 No.20826708 Report

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>>20826707
Shill comment to throw off discussion.
This tells me I'm on to something
Everyone, follow this id, not this CIA ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:43:10 No.20826709 Report

Quoted By: >>20826710 >>20826745

everyone who says that chess is a memorization game has never played chess at a higher than absolute shitter level, it's cope that's laughable to anyone who plays the game
the "opening memorization" you retards mention is actually learning interesting ideas and fundamentals you want to be aware of during the game to strategize to create a situation where such an idea could be possible to do
every time i hear normalfags talk about chess i cringe so much it's unreal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:45:08 No.20826710 Report

Quoted By: >>20826753

>>20826709
fuck you nigger, in the best comfortable environment to grow up in
some of us grew up in shit and still want to play chess
your elitism, i'll see u at the table

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hn7iY0As Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:48:34 No.20826745 Report

Quoted By: >>20826753

>>20826709
that's becaus you had too much money to grow up with

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:mkRMhC+F Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:49:32 No.20826753 Report

Quoted By: >>20826757

>>20826710
>>20826745
??
schizo?
i learned to play in my mid twenties online, i'm 32 now, the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hn7iY0As Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:51:44 No.20826757 Report

Quoted By: >>20826776

>>20826753
Ok, now tell me about your family background, including your parents' professions and the level of income you grew up with, and also in what environment you learned chess in, and also, please add a subjective, a subjective, rating of stress as you grew up, from 1 to 10.
And then we will talk about equivalencies.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mkRMhC+F Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:57:38 No.20826776 Report

Quoted By: >>20826784 >>20826790

>>20826757
lol
>dad worked as a night security guard for random companies
>mom sometimes didn't work to stay at home with me and my three siblings, sometimes worked as a part time cleaner
>income shit
>stress from 4 to 10 when dad became an alcoholic
I imagine you have something against people who play the game, thinking it's some elitist bullshit for the wealthy class, because you didn't achieve much in it (yet). sure, it is like that FOR KIDS, no normal parent can send a kid to some fucking chess camp or drill them yusupov books. but i literally just told you i learned the game in my mid twenties online lmao. do puzzles, read chess books, or fuck the books, nowadays you have youtube videos that are better than most books lol

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hn7iY0As Mon 22 Jul 2024 23:59:49 No.20826784 Report

Quoted By: >>20826787

>>20826776
completely fake, MOSSAD, absolute bullshit demoralization

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mkRMhC+F Tue 23 Jul 2024 00:00:41 No.20826787 Report

Quoted By: >>20826851

>>20826784
wanna play a round anon??

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hn7iY0As Tue 23 Jul 2024 00:01:10 No.20826790 Report

Quoted By: >>20826854

>>20826776
bro you think you're talking to some peasant
I know exactly the effort and ability it would take to do what you're talking about
you're a fucking jew, a kike, a fucking shill, you're demoralizing an entire generation

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hn7iY0As Tue 23 Jul 2024 00:01:28 No.20826851 Report

Quoted By:

>>20826787
eat a bag of dicks, netanyahu

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mkRMhC+F Tue 23 Jul 2024 00:03:33 No.20826854 Report

Quoted By: >>20826998

>>20826790
>I know exactly the effort and ability it would take to do what you're talking about
just do a few puzzles on chesstempo, watch a good informative vid online and play a round a day
can do it easily in bed before sleep
want me to do some routine for you? i can organize one for you, tell me how much time you can spend a day, it's ok if it's only 30 minutes or so

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hn7iY0As Tue 23 Jul 2024 01:04:25 No.20826998 Report

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>>20826854
I spit on you, jew

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