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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 16:51:23 No.21132835 View View Reply Original Report

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>people must keep suffering because... because they just do, ok?!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 16:55:58 No.21132836 Report

Quoted By: >>21132858

>>21132835
Who are you to question Allah and his prophet (PBUH) ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:00:45 No.21132837 Report

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>>21132835
>"suffering uh... builds character"
>suburban teenager whos never suffered in his life

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:02:37 No.21132838 Report

Quoted By: >>21132841 >>21132849 >>21132864

>>21132835
God doesn't cause suffering. We use our own free will to cause it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:02:54 No.21132839 Report

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>>21132835
Because they choose to retard.
>verification not required

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:04:22 No.21132840 Report

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>>21132835
no pain no gain.
hit the gym, OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:04:48 No.21132841 Report

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>>21132838
Yes when people get cancer I'm sure they willed that upon themselves somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:05:49 No.21132842 Report

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>>21132841
Cancer is caused by man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:06:19 No.21132843 Report

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>>21132841
cancer is caused by vaccines, goyslop, and microplastics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:06:36 No.21132844 Report

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>>21132841
However when chemo or radiation makes the cancer go into remission, that's god's work.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:07:36 No.21132845 Report

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>>21132835

>I c-can't think of a good reason for suffering to exist THEREFORE NO GOOD REASON EXISTS, okay ch-chuds?

also

>1pbtid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:08:07 No.21132846 Report

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>>21132835
Suffering wouldn't exist if humans would just stop living.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:08:12 No.21132847 Report

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>>21132835

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:08:37 No.21132848 Report

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>>21132835
People keep suffering because they choose to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:09:46 No.21132849 Report

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>>21132838
God created a universe where suffering exists thereby causing it, an all powerful God could've made a universe with no suffering easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:10:46 No.21132850 Report

Quoted By: >>21132851 >>21132856

>>21132849
>an all powerful God could've made a universe with no suffering easily
He will for His elect after this world is destroyed.
Until then the wheat must be separated from the chaff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:11:34 No.21132851 Report

Quoted By: >>21132866

>>21132850
>two more weeks, goyim

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:12:04 No.21132852 Report

Quoted By: >>21132860

>>21132849
Yes god created the universe, including man, which is the cause of suffering. Go outside and get some fresh air.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:12:50 No.21132853 Report

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ok but how does it affects you personally?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:13:23 No.21132854 Report

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>>21132841
yes. stop being a little bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:13:28 No.21132855 Report

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Most of the people really suffering the most on earth are indian, chinese, or black. So that kind of does prove God exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:13:48 No.21132856 Report

Quoted By: >>21132861 >>21132863 >>21132866

>>21132850
He created the wheat and the chaff, he created the conditions for it to exist and created every aspect of human nature that he wants to separate, therefore he created conditions he didn't like then created humans specifically for them to give in to those conditions, and since humans are a product of their genes and upbringing those who fail his expectations were born to fail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:14:54 No.21132857 Report

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>>21132835
Fuck off back to his you utter nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:15:19 No.21132858 Report

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>>21132836
>lowercase p
fuck off moishe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:15:24 No.21132859 Report

Quoted By: >>21132879

>>21132841
>Choose to live in society filled with dangerous chemicals fucking everywhere, shit diets, no exercise, and other misuses of technology
>"Uhm, this is not my fault"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:15:26 No.21132860 Report

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>>21132852
He didn't need to create DNA that can mutate and cause cancers, but he chose to, he didn't need to make creatures require food, but he did and therefore is responsible for animals being killed for food, responsible for people starving to death, when you set the conditions for suffering you are responsible for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:15:45 No.21132861 Report

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>>21132856
'gratz you're a calvinist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:16:40 No.21132862 Report

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>>21132835
That's the price to go to heaven, fagget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:16:53 No.21132863 Report

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>>21132856
he gave us free will and respects our use of it. There are people on this planet who use their free will to cause suffering to others for their own benefit. They will not escape this life. God gave us a way out but you must use your free will to accept his protection. If you do not ask, you will not receive it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:17:09 No.21132864 Report

Quoted By: >>21132868

>>21132838
I guess you don't eat food?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:18:13 No.21132865 Report

Quoted By: >>21132912

test

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:18:38 No.21132866 Report

Quoted By: >>21132885

>>21132851
if you can't see the signs of the times revealing the hour is drawing near then you are blind, friend.
>>21132856
That's Calvinism.
Is there some form of predestination mentioned in The Bible? Sure, but we still are created with free will.
Since God is omnipotent He knows how we will use our free will, but omnipotence is knowing everything in CREATION.
At the moment of our creation we have free will, but at that moment God knows every decision we will ever make.
It doesn't nullify our free will since before the moment of creation our free will choices were not yet placed into the mind of God since we literally didn't exist yet.
We are imperfect beings because God CREATED us. If we were created perfect and sinless then it wouldn't be creation, it would be an expansion of God.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:18:48 No.21132867 Report

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:19:17 No.21132868 Report

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>>21132864
I'm heading out hunting in a bit. Season starts today. Grateful for God's creations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:19:59 No.21132869 Report

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>>21132867
>My children are rebelling against me
>I guess I should just accept it and not punish them since I created them I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:20:27 No.21132870 Report

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>>21132868
You love killing and eating because you're evil, just like your jewish god is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:20:28 No.21132871 Report

Quoted By: >>21132872 >>21132876

Religious chuds trying to justify why their god is a genocidal sadistic asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:21:02 No.21132872 Report

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>>21132871
They love god because they're evil too

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:21:18 No.21132873 Report

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>>21132835
I pray that God's harvest is soon coming, it will be the tares that are collected first and bundled and then thrown into the fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:21:27 No.21132874 Report

Quoted By: >>21132882

>>21132835
I'm an atheist and the suffering argument is low iq and retarded and makes me hate other atheists. Stop using this retarded argument.

If you assert that your life is neverending as you keep living as a spirit in lala-land for infinity, who cares about a few decades of suffering that are meant to teach you some kind of spiritual lesson? This argument is very retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:21:40 No.21132875 Report

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>>21132873
Pure evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:21:48 No.21132876 Report

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>>21132871
They created their god in their own image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:22:21 No.21132877 Report

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>>21132867
He created humans not robots

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:24:12 No.21132878 Report

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>>21132870
Mhmm, that's it, genious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:24:21 No.21132879 Report

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>>21132859
>>21132843
this is how fucking retarded /pol/ is. yes there are things that increase risk of cancer but clearly this is also a genetic element you fucking idiot dipshits. i cant believe i used to like this place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:25:02 No.21132880 Report

Quoted By: >>21132883 >>21132884 >>21132886 >>21132909

I wonder how Christians would try to justify their god condoning slavery or the murder of children?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:25:33 No.21132881 Report

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test2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:26:02 No.21132882 Report

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>>21132874
>my baby is born with a defect that makes it unable to wipe its own ass

what lesson does that teach?

>i was struck by lightning now im blind and paralyzed

what lesson does that teach?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:27:10 No.21132883 Report

Quoted By: >>21132887

>>21132880
It doesn't. The commandments are clear and simple. They are all designed to prevent causing harm to ones own self or to others. If you don't follow them then it is your own fault for your suffering. You were given a universal law and chose to defy it. Now you cry because you have to pay the consequences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:27:23 No.21132884 Report

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>>21132880
usually the explanation boils down to "might makes right"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:29:16 No.21132885 Report

Quoted By: >>21132889

>>21132866
"The hour is drawing near" since the first days of Judeo-Christianity.
>two more weeks, but THIS time for real, goyim

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:29:43 No.21132886 Report

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>>21132880
what if you just

read the fucking bible and found out for yourself
>aw naw goy im just here to ask stupid nigger-jew questions i don't care

u don't care about anything do you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:30:00 No.21132887 Report

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>>21132883
Brother your god killed literally everything on Earth once according to your book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:30:16 No.21132888 Report

Quoted By: >>21132890 >>21132894

>>21132882
Who fucking cares, it's a spiritual lesson in the spiritual world of the divine, they can make anything up.

Your soul learned what it's like to live with pain and being unable to do things and value the suffering of others for example. There's a million arguments out of that.

The real argument should be to question why should there be a spiritual world in the first place not this cringe argument about suffering. Yes, if God exists it makes sense that he would make you suffer it's not a big deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:31:49 No.21132889 Report

Quoted By: >>21132898

>>21132885
Nope.
Jesus specifically told His followers that the Kingdom had been taken from them and will be given to a future generation.
Have you even read the Bible? Actually sat down and read it cover to cover?
Do you usually talk about subjects you haven't studied at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:32:25 No.21132890 Report

Quoted By: >>21132901

>>21132888
"my baby is deformed, this makes my doubt God"

*god sends woman to hell for eternity for not believing*

>Its a spirtual lesson, not a big deal!! terrible argument!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:32:55 No.21132891 Report

Quoted By: >>21132892

>>21132882
>what lesson does that teach?
It teaches you to not hold a metal rod in an open field during a thunderstorm, retard. If you get hit by lightning, it's literally (your) fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:33:41 No.21132892 Report

Quoted By: >>21132900

>>21132891
again, stupid ass fucking nu/pol/ cant comprehend there are thousands upon thousands of people who are randomly struck by lightning while doing nothing but walking around.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:33:47 No.21132893 Report

Quoted By: >>21132894

>Todflers getting leukemia is essential to my divine plan you stupid goy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:34:37 No.21132894 Report

Quoted By: >>21132896 >>21132901

>>21132893
its a SPIRITUAL LESSON for that youngster to have leukemia, get a better argument!

see: >>21132888

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:35:58 No.21132895 Report

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Fuck it, I guess I'll post what I'm thinking. I can't do it any more, I'm down to my last 2 shots, one last try and a 9mm. Why won't he answer? From what it looks like, the devil will show up and help (with all that entails) but God? Silence. I can't try to lean on him for support when I have received none in the past that I can look to and say yeah that was god. I can't have a relationship with someone who doesn't respond. Is it because I'm not a kike? Is it because I'm not a catholic? I've called out verbally and mentally in desperation so many times and he doesn't even show up in a dream. He won't kill me, he won't help me. In 92 days and 2 hours I'm eating that bullet and I'm going to be really upset if he suddenly shows up to send me to a worse hell than the one I'm in now... I can't do it anymore. I can't pray anymore, in on my last shreds of hope, I've got no more faith. Why? What is the fucking point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:36:10 No.21132896 Report

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>>21132894
Its a spiritual lesson to a create that has yet to learn object permanence. Twisted sadistic jewish logic of the golem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:36:50 No.21132897 Report

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Since when is God a cop???Oh,fuck you and your millionth Anti Christianity thread seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:37:44 No.21132898 Report

Quoted By: >>21132899

>>21132889
Your Bible was created by the jews and I know how you, in pure jewish fashion, like to juggle secluded verses depending on situation, but the fact remains: the teaching of a doomsday Abrahamic cult was at all times interpreted as "we're living in the end times". If anything, now are the end times of Abrahamism and jews that created it along with all other evil of theirs.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:40:07 No.21132899 Report

Quoted By: >>21132916

>>21132898

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:40:30 No.21132900 Report

Quoted By: >>21132902

>>21132892
> thousands upon thousands of people who are randomly struck by lightning while doing nothing but walking around.
No they aren't, dumbass. Lightning doesn't happen on a clear sunny day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:41:18 No.21132901 Report

Quoted By: >>21132903 >>21132905 >>21132906

>>21132890
>>21132894
You repeating my argument back to me doesn't refute it you know that right?
If I give a bitter medicine to my kid to save his life does it really matter he tasted bitterness for a few seconds?
Your material life and its suffering is irrelevant compared to eternal bliss of the afterlife.
That's why the argument is retarded.

The argument of a God sending people to hell for not believing is much better because then you can question them on how they know the mind of God and how they know God would care about such a trivial thing for which they have no real answer. The suffering argument is retarded but any question related to knowledge is based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:42:29 No.21132902 Report

Quoted By: >>21132904 >>21132915

>>21132900
obviously, idiot. you said shit about carrying a metal rod not walking around on a rainy day. everyone who walks around when its rainy deserves to get struck by lightning? dumbfuck religious idiot shitskin subhuman. get the fuck off my board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:43:15 No.21132903 Report

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>>21132901
Toddlers dying from leukemia is like icky syrup bro. Jewish syrup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:43:42 No.21132904 Report

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>>21132902
>dumbfuck religious idiot shitskin subhuman. get the fuck off my board.

THIS
H
I
S

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:44:00 No.21132905 Report

Quoted By: >>21132910

>>21132901
but what about people who suffer, it makes them doubt God, so now they have to go to fucking hell? why do some people have to suffer and learn the "lesson" but others don't? whats the point of making a world where animals fall off cliffs and have to lie starving and then get eaten alive by bugs and other animals? what lesson does that teach the animals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:47:30 No.21132906 Report

Quoted By: >>21132910

>>21132901
>If I give a bitter medicine to my kid to save his life does it really matter he tasted bitterness for a few seconds
I said exactly the same about kids getting molested by priests. All parts of gawds plan. The bleeding sphincter will save your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:55:12 No.21132907 Report

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>>21132835
The jewish sect of christkikery was created as a tool to control the goyim that is why they are so adamant that you must suffer because the jews that made it planned on torturing you and making you their slave

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:56:12 No.21132908 Report

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christians have no logic.. muh suffering is god's plan, that doesn't sound like sandpeople argument at all.. lmfao
gtfo retards, the real god is not in any book or mythology, let that sink in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:56:39 No.21132909 Report

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>>21132858
A typo make me a kike. What are you a grammar Nazi?
>>21132880
Why is slavery wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 17:57:04 No.21132910 Report

Quoted By: >>21132918

>>21132905
>>21132906
You're just being emotional and not making rational arguments so you will get btfo by the smarter religious types.
>>21132905
It's two separate arguments. The first one you're assuming that their God cares if you believe in him or not. Questioning this is a good argument because they have no way of knowing and it's retarded of them to claim they know that their God cares about this.
However, if you are simply talking about suffering then you have the losing argument because now you are the one claiming to have knowledge about this so called God by assuming he would never cause suffering because it goes against your personal sensitivities.

Any argument that relies on having knowledge of God is retarded. If I pretend to have knowledge of God I can make up any answer I want to your questions, it's not a big deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:00:21 No.21132911 Report

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>>21132835
If you know better than God then you would know everything, but you don’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:00:29 No.21132912 Report

Quoted By: >>21132914

>>21132865
Freewill doesn't exist.

This nigger had to post ''test'', proving he didn't knew the result, proving freewill is an illusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:01:44 No.21132913 Report

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>>21132835
>babi's furst athism
you must be 18 to post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:02:56 No.21132914 Report

Quoted By: >>21132917

>>21132912
you don't know what freewill means retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:03:01 No.21132915 Report

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>>21132902
>everyone who walks around when its rainy deserves to get struck by lightning?
If you walk around an open field during a thunderstorm, you are CHOOSING to take that risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:05:04 No.21132916 Report

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>>21132899
>meanwhile the first five books of the Bible are literally jewish Torah
Abrahamists are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:05:14 No.21132917 Report

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>>21132914
I know what freewill means.

It's an illusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2024 18:12:33 No.21132918 Report

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>>21132910
>Jew worshiper talks about rational arguments

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/e/eSgNm Mon 02 Sep 2024 01:55:29 No.21135124 Report

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Yes once cast out of the garden life became struggle. Whether there was a mythical time or not this is a something to help people cope in their lives. Why do believers bother atheists so much? Believers never think about you.

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Anonymous ID:fpPYCcSS Mon 02 Sep 2024 02:41:23 No.21135266 Report

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Anonymous ID:HbvT26P/ Mon 02 Sep 2024 02:51:32 No.21135292 Report

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>>21135266
Christian scholars were one of the first people to accept the world being round.

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Anonymous ID:S7228RIK Mon 02 Sep 2024 09:54:07 No.21136091 Report

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>>21132862
this you?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZYYz0ndE Mon 02 Sep 2024 10:42:19 No.21136162 Report

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>>21135292
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
Matthew 4:8

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