>>22204095>>22204102that wouldn't have done jack shit in & of itself
what matters more than anything is the parents relationship with the kids, and the kids sense of their place in the world
if the parents had those ideals but did nothing but jack off & go on vacations & use their phone, the kid is still gonna think "meh, there's nothing better to do than use this APP to go get my nut off. what interesting novelty this brings to my life. what's the worst that could happen?"
