>>2261578yeah, new idols really seem to be more natty except for the whitening creams. i can't think of any of the major groups that debuted from 2015-2016 that have had ps. nobody in twice, nobody in red velvet, nobody in omg, except for that girl who's no longer in the group. nobody in wjsn or sonamoo either i think, but i don't know them that well. not sure at all about other groups like gugudan and april and laboum etc