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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 17:35:34 No.22749339 View View Reply Original Report

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Why did it die out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 17:36:37 No.22749340 Report

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>>22749339
What's wrong with his fat distribution

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 17:37:28 No.22749341 Report

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>>22749339
>Why did it die out?

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 17:37:34 No.22749342 Report

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The fine tuning of physical constants proves the existence of God. The main atheist argument against this is that the anthropic principle explains it, i.e. you can only find yourself where it's physically possible to find yourself. But the universe is also fine-tuned for things like scientific discoverability, which the anthropic principle can't explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D--lnA9eht0
https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-fine-tuning-argument-simply-works

>The fine structure constant determines the strength of the electromagnetic force. If it were stronger fires and biofuel wouldn’t work and so there would be no practical way of harnessing energy. If it were weaker fires would burn through all the wood and harnessing energy would also be impractical. It falls in a very narrow range needed for viable science.

>We use the cosmic microwave background radiation to discover how the universe works and that the big bang happened. Our ability to do this depends on the Baryon to photon ratio “which is just the ratio of the number of baryons (i.e., protons and neutrons) to that of photons (particles of light) per unit volume of space.” The ratio is one to one billion which is precisely optimal for fine-tuning, representing a share of the parameter space at probability 1 in 1 billion.

>In particle physics, lots of things are in a narrow range important for discoverability. For instance, Collins originally thought his thesis was refuted by the Higgs Boson, and that it was outside of a narrow range needed for discoverability. He later, however, realized that he’d made an error in his calculation and that it was precisely ideal for discovery.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 17:38:01 No.22749343 Report

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>>22749340
Sitting down too much not enough muscle, being fedoralord.

>t. Fedoralord with similar phenotype

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0jGUPMq/ Fri 30 May 2025 17:38:46 No.22749347 Report

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>>22749339
someone got a little too euphoric

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:QDZlGnxD Fri 30 May 2025 17:38:47 No.22749348 Report

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https://benthams.substack.com/p/what-does-the-atheist-have-left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhQhmgM5c4

>but just to briefly summarize a few of the things:
>1. Why there is a physical universe (you need that for naturally arising agents).
>2. Why there are laws.
>3. Why the laws apply to the universe.
>4. Why they produce interesting structures.
>5. Why there's fine-tuning.
>6. Why there are psychophysical laws.
>7. Why the psychophysical laws apply to the stuff that exists (why there happens to be both brains and the fact that brains produce consciousness).
>8. Why there's psychophysical harmony (you need harmony for agents that can know about the broad features of our world, or to have agents of any sort).
>9. Why we have access to the non-natural facts (that's part of having a broad understanding of the world).
>10. Why the bits of the physical world interact.

>Even if we assume (quite conservatively, in my view) that on naturalism these things are independent and each have a probability of 1/4, and that the prior probability of theism+the hypothesis of indifference theodicy is 1 in 100,000, theism comes up about 10 times likelier than naturalism. When we count the extra evidence and use more realistic numbers it might get even more extreme.

>The problem for the naturalist is that the theist has a good explanation of the world and they do not. By just adding two stipulations to the hypothesis that there's a God, we can easily explain everything in our world as well as naturalism. In contrast, the naturalist has no comparable explanation of the numerous things that theism explains well. They have no single feature that they can add to naturalism to explain the dozens of facts explained by theism. Naturalism has to take a beating, over and over again, from every new piece of evidence.

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Anonymous ID:QDZlGnxD Fri 30 May 2025 17:40:14 No.22749350 Report

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AI will eventually become God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYbA1pt8LA
https://vitrifyher.wordpress.com/2018/11/22/the-case-for-the-physical-existence-of-god/

Annoymous

Annoymous ID:OPNdq6UT Fri 30 May 2025 17:43:43 No.22749363 Report

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>>22749339
Was defeated by a banana

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Anonymous ID:2ozMK9Vn Fri 30 May 2025 17:44:30 No.22749367 Report

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Because its an ideology built from cynicism and nihilism. Seriously I think people who are atheists are people without accountability for their own lives an expect life to be handed to them. The second you start improving yourself you realize that line of thought is bunk and you better be BEGGING for forgiveness for cursing the Lord and denying him.

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Anonymous ID:P6JRSpZh Fri 30 May 2025 17:48:48 No.22749385 Report

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>>22749339
Atheism is growing every day

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tbtfF4qq Fri 30 May 2025 17:50:47 No.22749393 Report

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I used to have long arguments with the crazy religious fucktards of 4chan (see >>22749342) but one day I just stopped caring. Their arguments don't come from logic because faith is the belief in something without evidence.
These days I just make fun of them or set them off with a short sentence or two, but I don't spend more than a few seconds on it.
Also i know this didn't answer your question but I really don't give a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tbtfF4qq Fri 30 May 2025 17:52:47 No.22749400 Report

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>>22749367
I'd rather be a nihilist than a narcissist like you thinking daddy made the universe just for me. Pathetic as fuck lmao

Annoymous

Annoymous ID:OPNdq6UT Fri 30 May 2025 18:12:18 No.22749482 Report

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>>22749400
Jesus says to be humble so ur rong

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Anonymous ID:+TtU7Fno Fri 30 May 2025 18:25:21 No.22749528 Report

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>>22749339
Because it has literally nothing to offer.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:P6JRSpZh Fri 30 May 2025 19:59:35 No.22750305 Report

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>>22749528
while islam offers 72 virgins for suicide bombers

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