>>2395912Quantum foam has proven it already but I will prove it using a thought that a 10 year old can understand.
If there was no universe at some time, then there were no laws of physics to confine it, and no rules that the universe lived by. That being such, there was no rule to say that time existed, and no rule to say that space existed, no rule to say that 2 + 2 = 4, so without the universe 2 + 2 = 5 and so on. It is very much possible that because there was no "hard laws of physics" that you refuse to think around, you refuse to see outside the box here, it is very possible that things could happen differently before there was a universe, and the outside could have created a universe with those laws confined within itself, because before the universe and its laws existed, there were no laws to prevent that. This is actually logical proof by the way, not an argument.
And what you forget to mention is that there is more than one religion with a god. You act as if the Abrahamic God is the only God that mankind has ever come up with. Don't you realize there are more than 3 religions, and they all believe in different gods. Most of the time, man is creating god in his image. Before Abrahamic religions, the Greeks thought that there were men and women who controlled the world, and they wrote their own backstories about it.
But why is it that the Gods would appear as men as if that is the true form of the universe? As far as the universe is concerned, men are just another worthless part of nature, on a small planet that could be destroyed by an asteroid any day and be forgotten about entirely.
It was easier to believe that God would be so much more concerned with man, thousands of years ago, because they believed that the universe was smaller, and younger, and they believed that the Earth was a sphere in the center of the universe and everything revolved around it, and many believed animals don't have a soul and they can't think.
