>>2869433Same. On all counts same mate. It's a beer that you have to get used to. Once you get the taste down, then it's pretty good. After drinking Ottys Aussie beer tastes like shit.Ottys is cheap because they only make 1 kind of beer and they make shit ton of it all at once. Also, they don't spend cash on advertising. Fucking Germans with their good ideas. I assume VB spend about half their profits on adverts. We need an Aussie beer that is mass produced here and designed to be cheap and not too bad. That would be the shit mate