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Uhtred son of Uhtred & what does /pol/ think about "The Last Kingdom"

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:25:05 No.3244145 View View Reply Original Report

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Medieval Saxons and Danes fight for control of England.

It's basically white on white crime so there isn't an overwhelming PC tone to the script.

Decent acting and plot.
Good violence.
Historical, it not entirely accurate.
Based on "The Saxon Stories" by Bernard Cornwell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saxon_Stories
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Kingdom_(TV_series)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhtred_of_Bebbanburg

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:26:22 No.3244146 Report

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>>3244145
>Historical, it not entirely accurate.
It's about as historically accurate as Game of Thrones is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:28:37 No.3244147 Report

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I was so dissapointed with the story about Ragnar Loddbrokk anon, so won't even bothered.

As always instead of just taking the actual written and well known sagas, they will just take their names and make an outright nid against them. One used to go to war over this. When they made nigsongs like this, it would always lead to physical conflicts

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:29:36 No.3244148 Report

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>>3244145
Pretty good. Did not have all the fag shit that Vikings had, like 100lbs women fighting 3 men at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:30:48 No.3244149 Report

Quoted By: >>3244150 >>3245042

Adding i am a history and saga freak, so this is important to me, that it is accurate. I don't watch it for mindless entertainment, if you would watch anything like this it had to be actual history

So.. I stick to reading I guess, I need to read more about the saxon and danish ones tbqh, I focus on our sagas and you basically got just crossover there, for the most part at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:32:55 No.3244150 Report

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>>3244149
If you want historically accurate TV, check out HBO's Rome. It's not just the most historically accurate bit of entertainment media on Ancient Rome, its the most historically accurate piece of entertainment media period.

Unfortunately it was a few years ahead of its time and got cancelled mid way through season 2.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:33:40 No.3244151 Report

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>>3244145
Bretty good

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:33:42 No.3244152 Report

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Better than that shitty Vikings show with MUH SHIELDMAIDENS, the books are great too but they really fucked up the casting of Uhtred, he's supposed to be a 6ft 5 blonde haired warrior

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:35:10 No.3244153 Report

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Oh it sounds like a very interesting time though!
He was the son of Valtjov. North thimberland is also a very turbulent place, scotts to the north and anglos and danes to the south. If people from here settled anywhere in england it was there, danes were ofc present there too but they were also all over the place

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:35:40 No.3244154 Report

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>>3244145

It is a pretty decent show so far, I just hate how Uthred keeps cucking for the king.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:37:35 No.3244155 Report

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>>3244150
I actually remember this, it's a few years old now.
I watched it a lot there in the start, but turned too jewish and homosexual, it was pretty good beside that though.

I don't know roman history in this detail as the sagas Also this genere started with that show when I think of it.

Nah I actually have to watch this lol, seems very interesting, very interesting time in history when england is being shaped into what it is today

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:38:39 No.3244156 Report

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>>3244145
The only good medieval type show right now. I'm looking forward to KnightFall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9dtepkeR0I
>>3244150
Rome was the true kino that we didn't deserve

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:39:42 No.3244157 Report

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>>3244145
>Historical, it not entirely accurate.
It's terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJUDdEirco

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:41:11 No.3244158 Report

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>>3244152
I managed to watch one and a half season, and I couldn't take it anymore. Everything about that show is utterly wrong. As stated they just known historical person and apply whatever nonsense they want on them, Gange Rolv and Ragnar didn't even live the same time.FFS some of those people didn't even live at the same time and ie Ragnar was never in France at all. They had this really good story spanning over generations they could have used, so dissapointing fffs the script is already made!

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:42:27 No.3244159 Report

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>>3244157
Season 2 has fixed a ton of these issues, seems like the producers are actually taking notice of peoples complaints slowly but surely

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:44:27 No.3244160 Report

Quoted By: >>3244171

it's entertaining and also based on historical fiction...so not really fair to red pen the whole show. Also how much is truly on record from the 700s ? Some people just like to bitch.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:44:33 No.3244161 Report

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>>3244145

My girlfriend got me into this show oddly enough. I like it even if it's not historically accurate. I haven't really seen any SJW bullshit though so I'm cool with it. Halfway through season 2

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:45:38 No.3244162 Report

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>>3244145
From reading the books, Uhtred son of Uhtred is a truly despicable character and I can feel the fedora tipping crossing 1300 years and the bounds of reality. I just know that, if he lived today, he’d spend most of his time posting on r/atheism and r/theredpill.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:46:59 No.3244163 Report

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>>3244156
What's so saddening is if HBO Rome was made even 3 years after its cancellation, it would've been then what Game of Thrones is now. 2005 was just a little too early.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Rome though. I tend to pull a binge once a year or so of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:48:08 No.3244164 Report

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Also here, if they had done this right you know

They could simply have started at Ragnar and the danelaw that followed him with his sons, their shit afterwards, continued Eirik Bloodaxe and his wyfu (((Gunnhild))), later here and Svein with the beard, Knut the great, the rebellion afterwards, stamford bridge and then hastings with the three haralds

look it's endless! And would never be boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:50:08 No.3244165 Report

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>>3244150

They did a good job. They even tried to show the gesticulating and dramatics of the asiatic style of public speaking that was overtaking the older styles.

There were some issues with it. They tried hard to turn Augustus into a autistic sociopath, so much so that I cannot see where this inspiration came from. He was very shrewd, and had the capacity to be cruel and calculating, but he was not a psychopath, in fact he could be quite genuine and even thoughtful.

Other issues too, but that was one of a few that bothered me. I do have to say that for modern tv, Julius was well written and acted, and I think it was a clever take on him. John Milius is fucking awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:51:55 No.3244166 Report

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>>3244163
>I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Rome though. I tend to pull a binge once a year or so of it.

How is it? I was worried they would fag it up and put trannies everywhere. Is it actually a good thing to watch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:52:00 No.3244167 Report

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>>3244145
I watched it with a buddy of mine while waiting for Vikings to come back. Enjoyed it. Fighting seem pretty realistic if I remember, they didn’t have one guy wreck like 50 because muh badass. I made my brother and the first episode when the main character (with long hair) comes out of the river naked and you see him from behind my brother goes “well helloooo” and I started laughing as the guy turned around and he realized what he had said

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:54:14 No.3244168 Report

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>>3244145

how does the last kingdom compare with vikings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:54:59 No.3244169 Report

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>>3244158
The show had so much potential but it can't even decide what it is trying to do. It is taking on a very hard task of story telling, I'll suffer them that excuse, but still. Ragnar is a hard character to portray accurately, being that there is so much scuttlebut about him being a composite character and disputes about his timeline but that is the least of their problems. So many missed opportunities in sticking with known history. The seige of Paris was handled in like 4 episodes. It lasted six fucking months before Charles the Bald bought them off and pointed them towards easy pckings down river. Don't even get me started with the wandering God storyline that goes nowhere or the nealry worthless tribal Shaman false peril that has been caned once a season for 4 seasons running. And of course, there's Floki's enchanting by Islam, conspicuously portrayed on screen about 6 months before the phony "Muslim Vikings" fake news shit began making the rounds. The broship between Ragnar and Ecbert is worth every shieldmaiden, cringe though.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:55:46 No.3244170 Report

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>>3244145
Anyone watched the New history Show about the Crusades and Templar's? It's Called Knightsfall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:56:40 No.3244171 Report

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>>3244160
Enough to notice very glaring problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:57:36 No.3244172 Report

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>>3244157
kek

This was mostly about their props though, yes I agree this has to be right too ofc, but it wasn't so much about the actual history. I was just hoping to get a preview into how authentic this was you see.

No I guess I have download this now, hope it's better than muh wikangz. As Ragnar said when he actually died england, tricking away his son and the danish army, wanting to make a name for him self taking it with only two big long ship and 240 men. Anyways when he died he screamed out
>The pigs would squeel if they knew who old man was

Yeah he wanted to take all of england with only 240 men, to make a name for him self and be remembered, or fall in the process. He said that at that time to use the entire danish army to take england, an old woman could do, but this was something to be remembered. It wasn't just danes he had a part of southern norway here too

This is is sliding and going to be long, but his nick there loddbrokk, it refs to this coat he wore, it was water proof. They had indians in tonsberg they were jewlers from samarkand, but it might also been taken from elsewhere, but someone brought a spitting cobra there that escaped into the forest and nobody knew how they would kill it, so he made the cloak to protect him self from the spit and he killed it at was since called that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 18:58:11 No.3244173 Report

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>>3244166
Yeah, it's great to watch and no, it contains none of that stuff. It ran from 2005-2007 which is a little before all of that. No trannies or fags that I can remember, though in Season 2 they introduce a few Jewish characters. The reason for that being is that the show was originally meant to run for 5 seasons and the 4th season was going to be focused on the rise of the Messiah in Jerusalem so they were just prepping for it but unfortunately got cancelled way before that and had to rush 20 years of history into 5 episodes.

It's an excellent show to watch whether for entertainment or historical value basically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:00:25 No.3244174 Report

Quoted By: >>3244200

>>3244166
Romes Brilliant. Too bad it was ahead of it's time and got cancelled. There's not much modern adaptions of Ancient Europe, Sad really...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:00:37 No.3244175 Report

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It's pretty good, only two stronk women and they're cast aside so it's very low in SJWness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:02:28 No.3244176 Report

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>>3244146
Except that part where it's based on a real time in history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:03:42 No.3244177 Report

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>>3244147
Interesting. Do you have a link to Ragnar sagas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:03:55 No.3244178 Report

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>>3244145
I didn't like the acting or the actor. He doesn't even look english

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:04:52 No.3244179 Report

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>>3244150
Rome ended too soon. The Empire and the Show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:05:24 No.3244180 Report

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>>3244169
>So many missed opportunities in sticking with known history.
This this this!

Also like for once, you even most likely have the reason why shakespear cold him self there. Shakespear read this stuff, for instance Hamlet is taken from a sagn(this is too old to be a saga) from a danish prince called..... Amlet... So it's modernization of this.

But to the point of the possible origin of this "shakespear". When realRagnarLoddbrokk died and he yelled his the pigs would squeal thing, the anglos understood that they were not just simple muh wikangz raiding, and that it was him.

So they sent emisarries to Denmark to his sons, who brought them the knews. So one of his sons, he got so mad, he was holding a spear. So first his knuckles turned white, then his spear started to shake and it snapped in two by his grip alone.

They didn't do the emisarries anything though, but shortly after Ivar the boneless jewed the anglos out of London city and thereafter followed the danelaw.

So look! You have so much to take from here, and they just jew it up like this wasting hundreds of millio ns of shekels on this!!!

Why? If they made this properly people could have watched this in a 100 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:05:57 No.3244181 Report

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>>3244152
>6ft 5 blonde haired warrior
That is a casting nightmare for sure. Remember the whoever is cast needs to be able to act.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:06:34 No.3244182 Report

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>>3244154
Alfred is a proper cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:07:21 No.3244183 Report

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>>3244156
I have an episode of Knightfall on dvr. Haven't had the time to watch it yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:07:50 No.3244184 Report

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>>3244145
Great series, great books. Uthred is the ultimate alpha who fucks every nice chick he sees and kills at will. I don't like that they depicted King Alfred as a sick fanatic but the show is still great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:08:33 No.3244185 Report

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>>3244165
Yeah, the guy who played Augustus when he was still Octavian definitely portrayed him closer to how I envision him. I think Rome was attempting to show how Octavian changed in the course of becoming Augustus but didn't have enough time to do it in properly. Had the show ran for the original 5 seasons, I think it'd be different. You have to remember, season 2 where the show actually ends was originally meant to end with the Battle of Philippi and the 3rd season was going to end with Octavian becoming Augustus.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:09:22 No.3244186 Report

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>>3244169
Also Floki is obviously an attempt to mimmick loki for some reason, it's how I read into it.
Some of his sides at least

There are still parts here though where they are trying to drag in parts of history, such as the uppsala rites and so. Granted not 100% correct ofc, but take in parts here.

As for Floki when Ragnar puts him in the cave there, that's what they did to Loki after he made them kill Baldur. He is chained in a cave, standing like Floki. They even dragged in that it drips on his face. In Floki's case it's just water but with Loki it is ether.
>So they mix and juggle everything to make it look cool
>Some shit from unrelated sagas, the eddas
>And descriptions from the 1100ds from german historians visiting sweden

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:10:56 No.3244187 Report

Quoted By: >>3244191

>>3244185

Interesting, did not know that. Yeah I liked young Octavian.

Also, fucking shit the set design is some of the best I have ever seen. Probably the most realistic portrayal of ancient Rome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:12:39 No.3244188 Report

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The books are excellent, the show is sub par and takes a ton of liberties.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:13:15 No.3244189 Report

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>>3244165
Rome is worth the watch if only for Ray Stevenson's role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:13:58 No.3244190 Report

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It's a good show an all but what does this have to do with politics?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:14:21 No.3244191 Report

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>>3244187
Absolutely. The set was one of the aspects that add to Rome's realism. After decades (really, centuries, since Edward Gibbon) of Rome being portrayed as a city of marble where everybody shits white marble, they show what Rome (especially Republican Rome) would've actually looked like.

In what perhaps is the biggest hint of irony ever, the set actually burned down a few years back. Shame Nero wasn't around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:15:12 No.3244192 Report

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>>3244168
I watched the first season of Vikings... meh. I liked TLK better.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:15:54 No.3244193 Report

Quoted By: >>3244198

Horseshoe mustache man will always remain in my heart.

RIP in peace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:17:07 No.3244194 Report

Quoted By: >>3244196

>>3244177
oh sadly my english resources are lacking here, I only got them in nordic languages. Mostly books here actually at home, but I also got online resources.

Our main site here is called heimskringla.no, which has all the shit you can both search(though a search engine I plan on helping them with that) and look up in the index now over 6000 entries there lol, so it's a lot of material.

Sadly no anglo, and this leads us to google translate. Most of these texts were translated in the 1800ds and the written language has changed a lot since then, removing the danish influence and so. So google translate fails so much there, but you can give it ago there though, but it's going to be jibberish.

There is also another icelandic site that is translating currently to anglo online, but they only got a few limited sagas so far and they take icelandic ones first. There should be books though. Check it out if you can find it. You also used to have another icelandic site called snerpa.is which had translations, but it is gone now. Quite recent it was there since we got internet here in the 90ies

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:17:08 No.3244195 Report

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>>3244170
It's on my DVR. Probably watch it this weekend. But I prefer to have enough episodes to binge 2-3 at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:18:28 No.3244196 Report

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>>3244194
drinking beer
*you can search there, but a serach engine with +heimskringla.no is better.

So ie Ragnar Loddbrokk/Lodbrokk +heimskringla.no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:19:32 No.3244197 Report

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>>3244145
I've read the books, they are great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:20:47 No.3244198 Report

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>>3244193
That's Magnus Samuelsson isn't it? The Swedish strongman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:20:57 No.3244199 Report

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>>3244145
These fucking meme armors tho. It's not like some proper fucking chainmails and helmets were too hard to get.
3/10, will stick to the books for now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:21:06 No.3244200 Report

Quoted By: >>3244204

>>3244174
I was going to watch Roman Empire:Reign of Blood, but I keep quitting in during the first episode. I would need a high recommendation before plowing ahead with it.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80096545

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:21:23 No.3244201 Report

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>>3244177
http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Ragnar_Lodbrog

Try this ie, and see how google treats you, this was only translated to danish. Old norse is missing even, it's not perfect this site. If I was a bitcoin billionaire I would have given them a lot of shekels to improve the site. The oldest ones aren't the most detailed ones, there should be poems too and ofc tons of refrences in other in material as everything is so interconnected

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:21:41 No.3244202 Report

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Why is white people (Saxons, Germanics, Nords) history so boring?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:22:28 No.3244203 Report

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>>3244145
I AM OOOOOOOTRITTT DESTINEY IS ALL NOOTKA HMMMMMM BE VERY CARFUL NOW

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Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:23:20 No.3244204 Report

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>>3244200
It's not even in the same league as HBO Rome but it's interesting. It can't decide whether its entertainment or a documentary though.

Do you have an active interest in Rome and want to further that? Or like myself, have watched pretty much all entertainment media centered on the time period? Then yes, watch it.

Are you just looking for a good TV series? No, don't watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:24:48 No.3244205 Report

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>>3244145
there are explicit sex scenes? can I watch it with my family?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:25:54 No.3244206 Report

Quoted By: >>3244244

>>3244204
Ideally I would like to watch a good period show that is as historically accurate as possible while still being a drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Df4v72u7 Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:27:29 No.3244225 Report

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I'm sliding you with Ragnar stuff now, but this is where it starts these conflicts, well almost though, the big stuff starts here. Anyways google

>However, Ella went to Ireland, where he ombragte all those who faithfully clung to Ragnar, with the sword or in other ways punished them. When Ragnar attacked him with her fleet, punished the Almighty him in his righteous anger openly for the contempt he had shown religion, for he was captured and put in prison, and his sinful body was given serpents to eat, and lizards guzzled miserably in his bowels. His liver was eaten, and a serpent gnawing like a grim executioner to his very heart. When he spoke with the courageous voice of all his exploits, and when he had listed them all, he added:

(had to fix, they also always use kennings here, poertical rewritings)
>"If pigs knew
what The Pig must suffer,
to battle they called
and stormed path".

>Damn mods, should have been TV atleast

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Anonymous ID:Tcq0bQu3 Fri 08 Dec 2017 19:28:46 No.3244244 Report

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>>3244206
Well this thread is dead now it's been moved but fuck it.

HBO Rome then. By this point, I'm starting to sound like a HBO salesman but HBO Rome is exactly what you're describing unless you mean very specifically the reign of Commodus is what you're interested in (in which case, I recommend The Fall of the Roman Empire 1964).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQpjToEgxk&t

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6ffoHu0G Fri 08 Dec 2017 20:18:28 No.3244826 Report

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>>3244156
as someone who loves both templar and grail related stuff, knightfall looks great

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:lp0yVdjW Fri 08 Dec 2017 20:35:21 No.3245042 Report

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>>3244149
The show is based on a book series by Bernard Cornwell. Which is really entertaining and somewhat accurate historically.

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Anonymous ID:Ok1nmLO6 Fri 08 Dec 2017 21:10:00 No.3245356 Report

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>>3244145
>what does /pol/ think
>on /bant/
might as well off yourselves at this point Unknown scum

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