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Transgenderism

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 01:44:44 No.471998 View View Reply Original Report

what are /bant/s thoughts on hormone replacement therapy?

I got called an honorary nigger for posting this on /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bjfsZq5H Mon 15 May 2017 01:46:42 No.472037 Report

Quoted By: >>472130

>>471998
Take note of the anime around it, it's what this people think they are/will become.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jTT7+kAt Mon 15 May 2017 01:47:06 No.472045 Report

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>>471998
Do whatever you want with your body senpai

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bmk00j2J Mon 15 May 2017 01:50:39 No.472113 Report

Quoted By: >>476766

Stop being gay

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 01:51:53 No.472129 Report

Quoted By: >>472442 >>472475 >>472789

I really can't find an answer for cases when the kid really wants to do it (10-12) because I think it changes tremendously how your body will grow and become for the rest of your life.

The kid can be sure for all he knows but he didn't even lived 1/7 of his life to decide how he will be for the rest of his life.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 01:51:53 No.472130 Report

Quoted By: >>472301

>>472037
the animeposting is a bit out of hand for 4chan trannies for sure
I think they more just think its cute and they want to be cute

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wcHZ5ti6 Mon 15 May 2017 01:53:23 No.472149 Report

Quoted By: >>472181

>>471998
transgenderism is currently the best treatment for gender dysphoria, and should be seen as such. Traps are hot, but transgender culture is awful, and in a decade or so when we find a way to cure gender dysphoria, there will be no need for transgenderism anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 01:53:48 No.472160 Report

Quoted By: >>472200

>>471998
You'll never be a female. Ever.

You will always have an XY Chromosomes.
Stop being a fucking faggot or kys.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 01:54:44 No.472178 Report

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>>471998
Ranma is a bad example, since he was born a dude, and still is one half the time. Jun is a better example. You could stand to watch some more anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 01:54:49 No.472181 Report

Quoted By: >>472224 >>472237

>>472149
>traps are hot
I guess if you're a giant fucking faggot who likes men's bodies, you fucking leaf.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 01:55:51 No.472200 Report

Quoted By: >>472328

>>472160
rude
you can't just stop being a faggot, anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 01:56:56 No.472224 Report

Quoted By: >>472354

>>472181
The more you converse with us, the more you will too.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wdNzR+ks Mon 15 May 2017 01:57:21 No.472232 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
I don't have a problem with people choosing to permanently fuck themselves up and then killing themselves in a few years. Go for it. Just stop posting gay shit all over /bant/.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wcHZ5ti6 Mon 15 May 2017 01:57:40 No.472237 Report

Quoted By: >>472277 >>472282 >>472375

>>472181
fucking a feminine guy is basically one of the most dominant things you can do to someone, it's pretty great

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 01:59:24 No.472277 Report

Quoted By: >>472327

>>472237
The next thing this guy is about to say is that he (or she if you will...) has/had a feminine penis.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 01:59:30 No.472282 Report

Quoted By:

>>472237
Doesn't sound all that special.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5MmnMVIN Mon 15 May 2017 01:59:46 No.472291 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
I had a coworker who did this to him/herself. It is now a complete biological disaster that not even the extremely drunk would dare stick their dick in

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bjfsZq5H Mon 15 May 2017 02:00:21 No.472301 Report

Quoted By: >>472391

>>472130
>I think they more just think its cute and they want to be cute
Nah look at how they dress, they really think they're cute and girly and when they look like an androgynous boy at best. Cuteposting is irrelevant, plenty of faggots do it and don't pretend to be girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y25IHuAo Mon 15 May 2017 02:00:32 No.472309 Report

Quoted By: >>472326 >>472371

/bant/ is gayer than /lgbt/ now

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 02:01:19 No.472326 Report

Quoted By: >>472484

>>472309
No. You don't get it anon. This is 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wcHZ5ti6 Mon 15 May 2017 02:01:21 No.472327 Report

Quoted By: >>472398

>>472277
especially if they have a feminine penis that makes it even bett

fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:01:21 No.472328 Report

Quoted By: >>472391

>>472200
Yeah you kind of can. Being gay is like being a liar. It takes will power to stop. None of which you have. Faggit.

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Anonymous ID:AbZbE3h9 Mon 15 May 2017 02:02:18 No.472348 Report

Quoted By:

>2017
>not being a fag

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:02:30 No.472354 Report

Quoted By: >>472484

>>472224
Yeah. No. Fuck off you mentally ill dehenerate. You're so fucked in the head there's no cure for your illness.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:1eLqVy7L Mon 15 May 2017 02:02:37 No.472355 Report

Quoted By: >>472398 >>472419 >>474204 >>474540 >>480448

>permanently fucking up your genetics

just fucking cross dress or something you lunatics

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 02:03:15 No.472371 Report

Quoted By: >>472464

>>472309
A lot of boards are. /lgbt/ is full of faggots anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:03:20 No.472375 Report

Quoted By:

>>472237
That's gay. And you're gay. Kys you degenerate piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tAmDIcfY Mon 15 May 2017 02:03:42 No.472387 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
you'll never be a real grill and I will still use male pronouns for you

also every single HRT tranny I've met are drama filled crazies with constant mood swings

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 02:03:46 No.472391 Report

Quoted By: >>472700

>>472328
not really
I could pretend to be straight but i'd still be a fag
>>472301
you only notice the ones who have no self awareness
many trans people are basically normal except for the hormones

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 02:03:58 No.472398 Report

Quoted By: >>472660

>>472327
>feminine penis
Nigga, that is fucking gay.

>>472355
Hey there other dane anon. Also I do agree with the crossdressing, the only problem for some people is that they DONT fucking get it that they ARE NOT MEANT to do it, cuz some people just look horrible while doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:05:00 No.472419 Report

Quoted By: >>472451

>>472355
This. All logic has gone out the window with these people. There's no point in arguing with them. At this point the only solution is the final one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 02:05:54 No.472442 Report

Quoted By: >>472475 >>472971

>>472129
>>472129
>>472129

I want this dilemma answered you faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 02:06:04 No.472451 Report

Quoted By: >>472478

>>472419
You mean kill them all, like... hang them from trees n shit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:lJmpRYvS Mon 15 May 2017 02:06:13 No.472454 Report

Quoted By:

You look like a monster to most people, even the liberal hippie types.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:alzywSeo Mon 15 May 2017 02:06:21 No.472460 Report

Quoted By: >>472489 >>479388

>>471998
If you're under 16 you shouldn't be allowed to take it. Parents that put their children on hrt therapy should be charged with first degree child abuse, and have the children taken into foster care.

But if you're 18 then fuck do whatever you want faggot. Still won't look like a chick, you'll probably kill yourself when you're in your late 30's and realize you're disgusting and less than .0001% of the human species finds you attractive.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:06:30 No.472464 Report

Quoted By:

>>472371
You will never have chin like that. You'll always be a big chin, wise shoulder freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wdNzR+ks Mon 15 May 2017 02:07:04 No.472475 Report

Quoted By: >>472508

>>472129
>>472442
The answer is don't brainwash your kids with degenerate shit and they won't want to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:07:07 No.472478 Report

Quoted By: >>472543

>>472451
Whatever the final solution is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 02:07:23 No.472484 Report

Quoted By: >>472511 >>472543 >>472586

>>472354
Just gotta find your frequency, man. It'll happen in the space of an hour.
>>472326
Well said, Denmark. 2 internets for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:07:38 No.472489 Report

Quoted By:

>>472460
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gl1YnXf0 Mon 15 May 2017 02:08:04 No.472499 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
You were lucky enough to be born a man, why fuck that up?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 02:08:26 No.472508 Report

Quoted By: >>472588 >>472620

>>472475
But how do you know they don't want to do it? They might as well be as degenerated as anyone in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uj1aHhKh Mon 15 May 2017 02:08:29 No.472511 Report

Quoted By: >>472529

>>472484
Yeah no. Only weak minded faggots like you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 02:09:40 No.472529 Report

Quoted By: >>473051

>>472511
I'll bet you've already learned a lot about yourself in your time here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 02:10:09 No.472543 Report

Quoted By: >>472634

>>472478
Nice.

>>472484
Ikr.

OH. And to all of you trap lovers. Here is a trap for you, who goes by the name Blaire White. You probably love that shit anyway. https://twitter.com/msblairewhite

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pfFtBjUo Mon 15 May 2017 02:12:15 No.472586 Report

Quoted By: >>472677

>>472484
Wait, so they don't actually chop off your dick?
What if you pop a boner when you're still recovering from the surgery?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:alzywSeo Mon 15 May 2017 02:12:29 No.472588 Report

Quoted By: >>472692

>>472508
They're children you fuckwit. They don't know what they want. Their likes, dislikes and interests change every week, just because a 9 year old boy says "I wanna be a girl" doesn't mean that you should pump him full of chemicals that literally turns the freaking frogs gay, it means you take him out in the yard and start playing football with him. Teach him about cars, guns, planes, trains, engineering, whatever manly things you like. If you don't like any manly things, don't have a kid.

These are simple things.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:I766Kl6f Mon 15 May 2017 02:12:53 No.472601 Report

Quoted By:

It's your body, do whatever the fuck you want.

Just keep it to yourself and don't fucking promote this disease as something to be normalized.

I'm seriously worried by the ever-confused teenagers easily influenced by this fad and the kids with parents desperate to virtue signal their progressiveness.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Fkpbm5h6 Mon 15 May 2017 02:13:26 No.472617 Report

Quoted By:

Garbage solution to an inherently psychological problem.
There's a line with these sorts of things that ends with purposeful self-mutilation, at least traditionally, such things get categorized as needing treatment not encouragement.
The only reason being gay or bisexual isn't something that needs treatment is because it lacks appreciable damages to self or others.
This shit obviously does not, self-harm is a requirement of the condition.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wdNzR+ks Mon 15 May 2017 02:13:30 No.472620 Report

Quoted By: >>472692

>>472508
The only reason a kid that young would want it is because their parents fucked them up in some way. In any case, they shouldn't be allowed to go through with it until they're much older. In the meantime they should be given some sort of mental therapy. If they still want to do it when they're older, then fine, let them fuck themselves up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:alzywSeo Mon 15 May 2017 02:14:32 No.472634 Report

Quoted By: >>472713

>>472543
What the fuck is this thing

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fq5z3WJx Mon 15 May 2017 02:15:28 No.472660 Report

Quoted By: >>472713

>>472398
>Hey there other dane anon. Also I do agree with the crossdressing, the only problem for some people is that they DONT fucking get it that they ARE NOT MEANT to do it, cuz some people just look horrible while doing it.
You don't have to do it in public. You can do all kind of crazy things alone or with a lover in the privacy of your bedroom without letting your fetishes ruin your life.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 02:16:38 No.472677 Report

Quoted By: >>480331

>>472586
They do. But there are other things to do than that. There are a million shades trap in the wide world of faggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:T6nN2lXd Mon 15 May 2017 02:17:11 No.472688 Report

Quoted By: >>472810

>>471998
It's fine by me for adults. I really don't care.
When it comes to kids, it's a lot tougher of a situation. The problem is you can't really come back from it, but at the same time not letting people transition early can fuck them immensely if they keep wanting to transition (I imagine it's already in the works, but a study on how often children keep the desire to transition as they grow up would be an incredibly important thing to have). It's why so many MTFs just don't look right, because they already got fucked by puberty and it's just irreversible, and that feeds into the perception of them being these weird freaks, and them feeling like it hasn't worked, which in turn can contribute to things like the very high suicide rate for these people. Which is sad, because if they had transitioned earlier, then they would look much better and it goes without saying that society's perception of them would be much more positive.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 02:17:17 No.472692 Report

Quoted By:

>>472588
>>472620
But sometimes they do anon. If that hormone therapy is done at that age they will become more feminine than most woman out there but if you wait until theirs 18's or 20's they can become horrible monsters trying to revert back the what the time did.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:SRAvDUgb Mon 15 May 2017 02:17:24 No.472700 Report

Quoted By: >>472810

>>472391
>many trans people are basically normal except for the hormones

#denial

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DpKysdrN Mon 15 May 2017 02:17:33 No.472704 Report

Quoted By:

you can't become a woman.

you can just become a freak

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 02:18:00 No.472713 Report

Quoted By:

>>472634
Oh, just the kind of mental disorder to expect from a transgender. or maybe people trying to be edgy. Your choice really... You should browse the other stuff though, there's always a good laugh to have on some topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOjuiAikrU

>>472660
Crossdressing is actually allowed, and not a fetish. It could be come a fetish if you want more than just crossdressing, ya know?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JpH3Gp79 Mon 15 May 2017 02:21:45 No.472789 Report

Quoted By:

>>472129
Puberty blockers. They delay puberty, but don't cancel it. Usually doctors won't prescribe hormones until the late teens.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 02:22:43 No.472810 Report

Quoted By: >>473578

>>472688
well said anon, I completely agree
>>472700
its true that trans people have a higher percentage of insane people than the general population, but many are just normal people who want to live happy lives and be left alone

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:alzywSeo Mon 15 May 2017 02:22:54 No.472816 Report

Quoted By: >>472965 >>472968

Look man, all I'm trying to say, is that I think I speak for all true americans when I say that we need to make traditional masculinity mainstream again. Normalizing the literal antithesis of that is the complete polar opposite of what we need to do. Sure man fucking take a bunch of drugs that change your cells, but it absolutely needs to be made illegal for children.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:D5rbhzxg Mon 15 May 2017 02:23:11 No.472819 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
Adults should be allowed to dress and modify their bodies however they please, but shouldn't expect everyone to pander to their delusions.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rga0aIAP Mon 15 May 2017 02:23:51 No.472841 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
Mental illness is not encouraged.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:8ScVEPw3 Mon 15 May 2017 02:25:28 No.472871 Report

Quoted By:

im doing HRT where you transition from man to MAN

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:alzywSeo Mon 15 May 2017 02:25:31 No.472873 Report

Quoted By: >>472982 >>473005

Maybe it's perfectly fine that trans people have insanely high suicide rates

I mean if you're literally mentally ill and throwing your entire life into a fetish that you have maybe society is better off without you

Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Agj3wo4P Mon 15 May 2017 02:26:02 No.472882 Report

Quoted By: >>472982

>>471998
>take hormones produced in a test tube that is world wide known to completely fuck up your entire body and mind making you a genetic dead end and abomination.
>that will fix my mental disease

The fact that we have normalized this in our society is a clear indication that we are heading toward our own fall of rome.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 02:29:43 No.472965 Report

Quoted By: >>473193

>>472816
I really don't know about that, I don't think the child should ever chose that shit but denying that shit could change the entire life of that person.

I know some people will always jump in the bandwagon but in every generation there were always people that genuinely wanted that shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 02:29:50 No.472968 Report

Quoted By:

>>472816
Why would you bother to say such a thing on 4chan?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:D5rbhzxg Mon 15 May 2017 02:29:55 No.472971 Report

Quoted By: >>473019

>>472442
The answer is that they aren't mentally or sexually mature enough to make that decision yet. The majority of them change their minds later anyway, so it's best to err on the side of caution and not pump them full of hormones.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DqAfPgHy Mon 15 May 2017 02:30:31 No.472982 Report

Quoted By: >>474646

>>472882
Or you could refer to >>472873 and understand that this is just going to be a natural course of action, and at some point, it will maybe die out. In the end, all what matters is who will survive and have offspring.
And I am pretty damn sure that it is uncommon for transgenders to have children. I mean, sure, they might be able to adopt one, but it is not something that happens very often, lol.

And mind you anon that after the fall of Rome, people thought that it will be an end of civilization, but it did not happen, did it now? We are just in a different phase in this so-called "civilization".

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 02:31:19 No.473005 Report

Quoted By: >>474448 >>474606

>>472873
rude
its not a fetish

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ei75irXR Mon 15 May 2017 02:31:41 No.473014 Report

Quoted By: >>473088

It might be shallow of me to say, but trannies on hormones are fine with me if they're convincing. Otherwise it's just weird.

I'll admit, though, that a ftm taking testosterone has it easier than a mtf on estrogen. After going through male puberty, estrogen hrt can still affect skin, fat distribution, hair growth, etc., but it cannot reverse bone changes that have already been established by male puberty. The only skeletal structure change is a slight widening of the hips/pelvis. Estrogen also cannot make your voice higher pitched, as that's also permanent after puberty.
However, throughout the process of hrt in those born females, their bones become heavier and more deeply sculptured under the influence of testosterone. This comes along with all the other male traits like facial hair, larger pores, and a lower voice.

Basically, it's more noticeable when a guy is trying to transition to a girl than when a girl is trying to transition to a guy since testosterone > estrogen in terms of post-puberty effectiveness.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JpH3Gp79 Mon 15 May 2017 02:31:53 No.473019 Report

Quoted By: >>473065 >>473118 >>474703

>>472971
>The majority of them change their minds later anyway
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9dJj8O0T Mon 15 May 2017 02:33:53 No.473051 Report

Quoted By: >>473100

>>472529
I've been here since 05.
I hate you faggits more than before I got here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:T6nN2lXd Mon 15 May 2017 02:34:39 No.473065 Report

Quoted By: >>473213

>>473019
I'd heard what he said before, but I don't have the actual study. I would really love to see how they determine what child has made the decision to transition. It could be anywhere between serious counselling and just the kid saying "being a girl would be cool", and there's such a huge difference between that that I can't know anything until I see how they chose their sample of kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 02:35:49 No.473088 Report

Quoted By: >>473215

>>473014
also its much more socially acceptable for a female to dress like a male than it is for a male to dress like a female

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 02:36:24 No.473100 Report

Quoted By: >>483182 >>483260 >>483455

>>473051
Ok, throw down. Show me something I can't google up about 2005 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:D5rbhzxg Mon 15 May 2017 02:37:03 No.473118 Report

Quoted By:

>>473019
I'm at work and phoneposting, so I'll have to simply refer you to a search engine of your choosing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:I766Kl6f Mon 15 May 2017 02:40:30 No.473193 Report

Quoted By: >>473290

>>472965
They are statistically irrelevant and you are running the risk of permanently fuck up the bodies of perfectly healthy individuals that would get over it with time.

Until we have factual science that can objectively identify this individuals at early ages, leaving this to parents and professions with spotty curriculum is counterproductive.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 02:41:09 No.473213 Report

Quoted By: >>473294

>>473065
I don't even think it's possible to dissociate a child opinion from his parents at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ei75irXR Mon 15 May 2017 02:41:10 No.473215 Report

Quoted By:

>>473088
hell, it's basically encouraged that women incorporate male clothing characteristics into what they wear. Humanity will probably end up becoming a bunch of androgynous monkeys who reproduce by 69ing in the next 3000 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 02:44:31 No.473290 Report

Quoted By:

>>473193
But if you are going to state statistically irrelevancy as an argument it's better to close everything related to it, since they do not affect the majority of the population.

But I have to agree with you, no one is competently capable of making these choices in a kid's case.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:T6nN2lXd Mon 15 May 2017 02:44:44 No.473294 Report

Quoted By: >>473461

>>473213
I'm just saying that I don't know how they choose. Like they could literally just survey the parents and be like "has your kid ever expressed interest in being the opposite gender" or they could be using kids that have consistently insisted that they wanted to be the opposite gender and have been through counseling and stuff. Major difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:I766Kl6f Mon 15 May 2017 02:53:31 No.473461 Report

Quoted By: >>474006

>>473294
Even if a proper procedure was followed, the professionals in question have a terrible record that includes following fads and insane levels of over-diagnosis. (Lest we forget about the false epidemics this professionals started in recent past)

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:SRAvDUgb Mon 15 May 2017 02:59:39 No.473578 Report

Quoted By: >>473672 >>474104

>>472810
>its true that trans people have a higher percentage of insane people than the general population, but many are just normal people who want to live happy lives and be left alone
>trans people...are just normal people
>trans
>normal

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Anonymous ID:3Nwoi23w Mon 15 May 2017 03:02:57 No.473638 Report

Quoted By: >>473845 >>474104 >>474223

Isn't the post-op suicide rate like, REALLY high? About 80% or so?

While I know for a fact gender dysphoria exists, there's no fucking way at least 3/4 of the people who claim to be trans are actually trans.

Lemme put it like this, anyone else notice that this whole transgender rights movement really picked up after they legalized gay marriage in the states 2 years back? So it's either, A.) every single tranny patiently waited until it was their turn to step into the public's eye or B.) now that gay marriage was squared away, people needed to latch onto something more taboo and oppressed so they could be the underdog.

Idunno, I'm waiting for this entire movement to fizzle out and from what I've seen it's on its way. You can't expect changes overnight, lash out when it takes time then expect for people to take you seriously.

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Anonymous ID:tzvzOZrQ Mon 15 May 2017 03:03:28 No.473651 Report

Quoted By: >>473706

>>471998
Ranma is a real girl though

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:3Nwoi23w Mon 15 May 2017 03:04:38 No.473672 Report

Quoted By:

>>473578
Before I opened the thumbnail I thought that was a sheet of acid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 03:06:34 No.473706 Report

Quoted By: >>473766

>>473651
Just like his dad is a real panda.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:tzvzOZrQ Mon 15 May 2017 03:09:42 No.473766 Report

Quoted By:

>>473706
He does become a real panda though, magic and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 03:14:47 No.473845 Report

Quoted By: >>474054

>>473638
Imagine that shit. You spent thousands of dollars, endure somewhat a lot of physical pain all the other shit too.

And the ending is not even close of what you wanted, shit would be horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:T6nN2lXd Mon 15 May 2017 03:21:57 No.474006 Report

Quoted By:

>>473461
I won't pretend to know much about the issues of over-diagnosis, etc, but I'll agree that it's good to remember that professionals are fallible. That said, that doesn't mean I won't still defer to their opinion unless really good evidence points to the contrary.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 03:24:09 No.474054 Report

Quoted By:

>>473845
Sounds like college.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 03:27:16 No.474104 Report

Quoted By:

>>473638
>Isn't the post-op suicide rate like, REALLY high? About 80% or so?
thats a meme
its about the same as it was before, it doesn't get worse

and its not the fault of trannies that the media is choosing to now push the narrative hard

>>473578
pretty much no one is completely normal
pretty much no one lives a degeneracy-free life

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZgxBakkr Mon 15 May 2017 03:30:07 No.474159 Report

Quoted By:

>have your dick shoved inside out into a "THING"(not a vagina) that literally does nothing
I don't care how people choose to mutilate their body but I do find it disgusting and stupid in most cases.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:4rcmL/iT Mon 15 May 2017 03:31:46 No.474194 Report

Quoted By: >>474729

Think of your father

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:lyAnb7ou Mon 15 May 2017 03:32:22 No.474204 Report

Quoted By: >>474548

>>472355
>genetics
that is not how it works sempai, you wil fuck up your growth and hability to procreate but the genetics is still there.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Dl1rNcvh Mon 15 May 2017 03:33:15 No.474223 Report

Quoted By: >>474360

>>473638

honestly? the trend of transgender/genderfluid/what the fuck ever thing seems closest enough to the cutting/emo trend in the nineties than anything else. same crowd of insecure teenagers, same self-affirming culture, same us-against-the-NORMIES mentality. i'm guessing in ten years adult women are going to look at the teenage pictures of them as a demi-boy agender whatever and laughcringe about how they were back then.

that said, it's kinda of sad to see how the people with the dysphoria and the actual physical transgender condition get reamed whenever they put forth that it's a condition, not a statement. i think tumblr calls them truscum or something, because of course they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rhXAqEEe Mon 15 May 2017 03:40:18 No.474360 Report

Quoted By:

>>474223

This is basically my position. People are welcome to do whatever they like, but there's a difference between expression and dysphoria

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:8OoFN1po Mon 15 May 2017 03:43:51 No.474448 Report

Quoted By: >>474588

>>473005
it's my fetish
im not trans tho i just jerk of to genderbender hentai

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:46:15 No.474507 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
>Posts Ranma
>Says this is how Trannies will end up
You should be shot for false advertisement. I have seen people shot, lit on fire, but this post brings more disgust in my gut.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:47:33 No.474540 Report

Quoted By: >>474588

>>472355
This, and if that isn't enough, then just wait for VR tech to improve

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:48:09 No.474548 Report

Quoted By:

>>474204
But Genetics influence your chances of procreating.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 03:49:31 No.474588 Report

Quoted By: >>474740

>>474448
yeah I kinda like that too honestly and I used to jerk it to that
that was far from the reason I started hormones though
>>474540
hormones cross the blood-brain barrier, it makes you think and feel differently besides what it does physically to your body

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:50:37 No.474606 Report

Quoted By: >>474843

>>473005
totally is for me. And I think many of you have deluded yourselves into thinking it isn't in your cases.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:52:10 No.474646 Report

Quoted By:

>>472982
>And mind you anon that after the fall of Rome, people thought that it will be an end of civilization, but it did not happen, did it now? We are just in a different phase in this so-called "civilization".

>Having multible centuries of chaos and ethnic displacement is a good thing

Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:54:07 No.474703 Report

Quoted By:

>>473019
Me. I realized later on that it is was mostly my insecurity that fed that desire that disappeared as my Dad's based genetics kicked, and some weird sexual fetish I have.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:54:54 No.474729 Report

Quoted By:

>>474194
This

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 03:55:25 No.474740 Report

Quoted By: >>474843

>>474588
>implying VR couldn't do the job in 50 years

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UxIO8xsk Mon 15 May 2017 03:55:29 No.474744 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
"if you pass, I will fuck your ass"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 04:00:03 No.474843 Report

Quoted By: >>474886

>>474606
idk how many normal men would enjoy growing tits
the reason I started hrt was because my body kept becoming more masculine and it was bothering me more and more

i'm much more feminine and emotional now than I used to be, its hard for me to believe most guys would be ok killing their masculinity like this

>>474740
without changing the chemicals in your brain it never will

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 04:02:01 No.474886 Report

Quoted By: >>474919 >>475003

>>474843
>wanting to fuck up your Brain chemistry
y tho?
And what happens once you get old?

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 04:03:43 No.474919 Report

Quoted By: >>474982

>>474886
Being old sucks anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jh23151N Mon 15 May 2017 04:05:11 No.474956 Report

Quoted By:

>>>/lgbt/
>>>/kys/

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 04:06:11 No.474982 Report

Quoted By: >>475164 >>476866

>>474919
Oh so you have no plan for the future and are just going to end early potentially the only existence you will ever have?
huh

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 04:07:26 No.475003 Report

Quoted By: >>475079

>>474886
its not really "fucking up" your brain chemistry, you feel and think differently..hard to explain without experiencing it

and idk you get old? same as everyone?
the point is to not have a man's body, its not like hormones give you eternal youth

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7c0ns4M2 Mon 15 May 2017 04:10:50 No.475079 Report

Quoted By: >>475160

>>475003
The answer is this: You will age like Milk, your body will shrivel up without the proper testosterone, and you will likely end up killing yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:u3r2HGkm Mon 15 May 2017 04:14:29 No.475160 Report

Quoted By:

>>475079
I actually was going to kill myself before starting, its what kinda made me not afraid of the risks
your body needs a sex hormone in enough concentration to be healthy but it doesn't matter which one it is

my testosterone is already extremely low and I feel very healthy and full of energy

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 04:14:38 No.475164 Report

Quoted By: >>476722

>>474982
Don't fear the reaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:swXGh6V+ Mon 15 May 2017 05:34:42 No.476702 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
I think it's weird but I'm a believer in doing what you want so if people want to be weird it's fine by me

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:h12c74Q+ Mon 15 May 2017 05:35:42 No.476722 Report

Quoted By: >>482905

>>475164
moar

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:GIhvtxRX Mon 15 May 2017 05:38:21 No.476766 Report

Quoted By: >>476790

>>472113
This

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:GIhvtxRX Mon 15 May 2017 05:39:20 No.476790 Report

Quoted By: >>476957 >>477528 >>478011 >>480196

>>476766

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:NBtgt2OY Mon 15 May 2017 05:39:45 No.476795 Report

Quoted By: >>480525

>>471998
>I got called an honorary nigger for posting this on /pol/
honorary faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SbgLcok Mon 15 May 2017 05:42:35 No.476866 Report

Quoted By:

>>474982
Being old is pure miserable suffering unless you have a good family that respect you so you can exercise the whole wisdom you had with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:swXGh6V+ Mon 15 May 2017 05:47:08 No.476957 Report

Quoted By: >>480393

>>476790
I feel sorry for this guy and stuff but I think people need to realize that when they have children that there is a decent chance that when they grow up they will make decisions you don't approve of

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:OmuZZ1FT Mon 15 May 2017 06:19:33 No.477449 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
I'm wondering if I can look like a girl without it.
I may or may not have developed a slight ability to change my physical attributes with will, I think I somehow lost height and weight when I started wanting to be cute, even though I don't like dieting.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:T6nN2lXd Mon 15 May 2017 06:25:37 No.477528 Report

Quoted By:

>>476790
"in what some of you more internet savvy users refer to as 'trap attire'"
"He came out as transgender and started watching that dreaded pony show"
Like it could be real, but I don't believe that it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Fn234j5Y Mon 15 May 2017 06:58:41 No.478011 Report

Quoted By:

>>476790
Oh, wow... If this was real, I'd feel real sorry for that guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DksemsvH Mon 15 May 2017 08:32:05 No.479388 Report

Quoted By:

>>472460

Bretty gud

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Anonymous ID:Ngg0Sod7 Mon 15 May 2017 08:33:28 No.479403 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
Subhuman

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yvdYVGnI Mon 15 May 2017 09:43:45 No.480196 Report

Quoted By:

>>476790
Don't be such a shit father
Problem solved.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Ns8SczRb Mon 15 May 2017 09:47:04 No.480234 Report

Quoted By: >>480293

why do faggots turn their sexuality into their personality, in past faggots had the same mentality as heteros.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UKJ+ud3u Mon 15 May 2017 09:47:26 No.480238 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
degenerate and disgusting, might as well grab a rope and go to the nearest tree

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yvdYVGnI Mon 15 May 2017 09:51:38 No.480293 Report

Quoted By: >>480675

>>480234
It is essentially a jewish manipulation of society, a false flag operation if you will, pushing those who are not truly faggots into acting as entirely degenerate mongrels while proclaiming themselves as the "x" community, to disgust the normal and wholesome individual into thinking that that entire group of people(which is not whatsoever represented by the visible degeneracy) is inherently degenerate.
Dividing the people into the oppressed and the oppressor.
Divide and conquer(or make your enemy conquer themselves)
It is post-modernist marxism 101.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0XoHk8oq Mon 15 May 2017 09:54:31 No.480331 Report

Quoted By:

>>472677
SAUCE ON THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oR3UZDBL Mon 15 May 2017 09:56:05 No.480354 Report

Quoted By: >>480399 >>481705

>>471998
I was trans and I tried HRT. It nearly killed me, dropping me to 70 pounds and almost leaving me unable to walk. A year later and I'm still recovering from that disaster. The science isn't there yet for safe HRT. It depresses me to stop but it's better than being dead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CzkeDLur Mon 15 May 2017 09:58:52 No.480383 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1eLqVy7L Mon 15 May 2017 09:59:56 No.480393 Report

Quoted By:

>>476957

>when they grow up

That's obviously a child though

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yvdYVGnI Mon 15 May 2017 10:00:29 No.480399 Report

Quoted By:

>>480354
That sounds like complete horseshit. There is no Hormone that will drop your weight like that. You stopping eating is not the fault of a hormone, additionally the currently popular hrt drugs have essentially no increase in any diseases.

(Not trans or anything, I just know basic shit.)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+tNA0R7j Mon 15 May 2017 10:02:47 No.480422 Report

Quoted By:

Take a walk on the wiiild side~

(at least before it screws you up)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kf7X5gHF Mon 15 May 2017 10:05:00 No.480448 Report

Quoted By:

>>472355
This

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:s6GP5xB0 Mon 15 May 2017 10:09:59 No.480498 Report

Quoted By: >>480625

>>471998
Transgenderism IS a mental illness
Transgenders look like, and actually are, disgusting monstrosities
But it's their body so in the end they have every right to do with it what they want
I won't punch them, won't go out of my way to work against them but I use the normal, not the wish-thinking pronouns

>I hope for them there will be a good way to deal with their mental problems tho, may it be actual transition - like in genetic and everything - or medication/treatment that let's them come to peace with how they are born

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:s6GP5xB0 Mon 15 May 2017 10:12:32 No.480525 Report

Quoted By:

>>476795
He is a real faggot, not a honorary one

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឴ ID:hQgJaK7+ Mon 15 May 2017 10:21:29 No.480625 Report

Quoted By: >>480649 >>480763

>>480498
>'not punching them'
>'not going against them'
>literally making a post filled with rage, frustration and anguish towards transgenders
Why do you care so much--chances of meeting them/working with them IRL is pretty slim. No point getting affected by something not likely relevant to your physical life anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Ns8SczRb Mon 15 May 2017 10:24:14 No.480649 Report

Quoted By: >>480675

>>480625
they use other peoples money for surgery/HRT and they are always trying to normalize their mental illness

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yvdYVGnI Mon 15 May 2017 10:26:24 No.480675 Report

Quoted By:

>>480649
>They are doing this
>they are doing that

Is your problem with socialism or trannies?
Stop falling for the marxist division tactics.
See >>480293

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:s6GP5xB0 Mon 15 May 2017 10:33:25 No.480763 Report

Quoted By:

>>480625
>chances of working with them/ seeing them is pretty slim
I see them every few days and a friend of me has to work with one
Also op asked what I think of it, are you retarded or something?
Also what in my post made you assume I hate them or rage about them?
They just disgust me
Like I look at them and I feel the same way when looking at fat people

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:O1PEHBGm Mon 15 May 2017 11:01:12 No.481131 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
>Tfw bad parenting

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Anonymous ID:/NZr4Pqm Mon 15 May 2017 11:05:32 No.481183 Report

Quoted By: >>481288

>>471998
enjoy no employer ever taking you seriously, everyone irl thinking youre a freak but most of all, enjoy your 40+% suicide rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yvdYVGnI Mon 15 May 2017 11:14:11 No.481288 Report

Quoted By:

>>481183
>40+% suicide rate
That's not what the statistic is, the statistic is 40+% have attempted suicide, but that rate counts multiple suicide attempts as different people, which is fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qnrOcigw Mon 15 May 2017 11:49:01 No.481705 Report

Quoted By:

>>480354
which medications were you taking?

also
>I was trans
idk if that's how it works senpai

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Anonymous ID:Bf6II18+ Mon 15 May 2017 12:49:31 No.482905 Report

Quoted By:

>>476722
No porn dumps.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:TRnz0x8t Mon 15 May 2017 12:54:36 No.482951 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QuHsckHN Mon 15 May 2017 13:14:28 No.483104 Report

Quoted By:

>>471998
I'd go trans if results were guaranteed and didn't take years. But I'm not for fucking up my body and mental state to look like a monster for the rest of my life.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PstnMyO+ Mon 15 May 2017 13:21:53 No.483182 Report

Quoted By:

>>473100
Not the same guy and there are a couple of things I remember that don't seem to be written about anywhere but I don't have any caps to back it up and am afraid to play my only oldfag cards for no reason in case I ever need them. I'll just say bright pink theme and western cartoon theme song, I think that was in 2005.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PstnMyO+ Mon 15 May 2017 13:29:25 No.483260 Report

Quoted By: >>483455

>>473100
Not the same guy but there are a couple of things I remember that don't seem to be written about much, I don't have any caps though so im afraid to play my only oldfag cards for no reason. Without evidence to back it up once I put it out here anyone can just repeat it and it loses what little value it has. I'll just say bright pink theme and cartoon theme song, I think it was in 2005 anyway.

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Anonymous ID:A4HayfLc Mon 15 May 2017 13:50:07 No.483455 Report

Quoted By:

>>473100
>>483260
Not that guy but here's one from 2009 you won't find on Google Images that seems vaguely topical. I have to wonder what happened to that OP.

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