>>4958242what are you basing any of your angles on because you're wording a lot of things in a fallacious or facetious way just to provoke a response
"they didn't have a concept of alternate dimensions"
"insane guy hearing voices"
"came up with the idea of heaven"
nothing is going to change your mind when you already have these convictions and many learned scholars could word anything i'd have to say in retort better
a lot of things are lost to translation and the original nuance and context can be lost to time. even so, in the english language there should be no problem understanding that "above" "upwards" "over" "beyond" etc can refer to a higher level, not just a direction
maybe i'm attacking this from the wrong angle myself and the original tongue explicitly refers to direction, but who knows. the implication is that the word came directly from God and not the ideas of man, and if man could only rationalize it as literally being the sky, then at the time that's how he did it. understanding deepens as time goes on. that isn't a hard concept to grasp