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Fagapore ID:DaGB4FPi Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:29:37 No.6695870 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>6695881 >>6695886 >>6695925 >>6696249 >>6696305 >>6696383 >>6696488 >>6696570 >>6697714 >>6697745 >>6697750 >>6697787 >>6697794

Is safety and security better or liberty and freedom?

Fagapore

Fagapore ID:DaGB4FPi Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:32:04 No.6695881 Report

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>>6695870
The scenario is not an idealised world, but our current world and the nation you live in

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Wv/L4/J2 Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:32:07 No.6695882 Report

Quoted By: >>6695892

>uses title
>namefag
>asking political questions
Faggot get off my board

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:gBsR4XGW Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:33:03 No.6695886 Report

Quoted By: >>6695888 >>6695897 >>6695930

>>6695870
no

the ability to decide your own fate should be paramount to anything you ever do

any government that denies it is tyrannic

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gBsR4XGW Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:33:38 No.6695888 Report

Quoted By: >>6695897

>>6695886
incidentally i took a gamble and lost

Fagapore

Fagapore ID:DaGB4FPi Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:33:53 No.6695892 Report

Quoted By: >>6695898

>>6695882
It's not like /pol/ is used for actual political discussion
I would say this is more of a philosophical question though

Fagapore

Fagapore ID:DaGB4FPi Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:34:58 No.6695897 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695888
>>6695886
Checked
What if you took a gamble and lost it all?Would you still want liberty or financial security?

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Wv/L4/J2 Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:35:08 No.6695898 Report

Quoted By: >>6695909

>>6695892
fair enough
carry on

Fagapore

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Fagapore ID:DaGB4FPi Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:37:24 No.6695909 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695898
Thanks, care to answer the question?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4YQGcqlT Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:39:36 No.6695925 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
My wife chino

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uLb3HGpU Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:40:40 No.6695930 Report

Quoted By: >>6695946

>>6695886
i agree with this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:zZ9Gy6pe Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:42:48 No.6695939 Report

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Liberty and muh freedoms.
say it with me

SHALL

Fagapore

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Fagapore ID:DaGB4FPi Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:44:31 No.6695946 Report

Quoted By: >>6695971 >>6696242

>>6695930
I guess most of 4chan is libertarian
I'll make this harder for you, guaranteed financial,mental and physical security for life inside a compound that has everything you could ever want or being dirt-poor with the liberty to do whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4YQGcqlT Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:49:35 No.6695971 Report

Quoted By: >>6695992

>>6695946
Does that mean i can steal from the compound if im dirt poor

Fagapore

Fagapore ID:PBanfDP/ Wed 17 Oct 2018 23:51:55 No.6695992 Report

Quoted By: >>6696196

>>6695971
if you aren't afraid of getting shot

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dmZLneLm Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:26:15 No.6696196 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695992
>Freedom hating commies
>Having guns

Id be in and out before the police arrive to protect those cucks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+Ex2akn9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:30:29 No.6696218 Report

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>6695886
Based a.f.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AZtP6821 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:31:30 No.6696221 Report

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liberty and freedom.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+Ex2akn9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:31:43 No.6696226 Report

Quoted By: >>6696242

>6695886
But the opposite.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+Ex2akn9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:32:36 No.6696234 Report

Quoted By:

Oops. Meant OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uLb3HGpU Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:33:18 No.6696242 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695946
i'd still try to eke out a life for myself. i hate being beholden to others
>>6696226
are you replying improperly on purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YMmP5tp8 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:33:35 No.6696243 Report

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Yes

Brexit's Revenge

Brexit's Revenge ID:2OsZ1ECZ Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:34:36 No.6696249 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
With liberty and freedom comes safety and security. Suppression leaves to tension which is much more dangerous. Chicken and the egg.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+Ex2akn9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:35:48 No.6696253 Report

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No. Newfag, long time obrerver/occultist helping kek, blocking Mammon and moloch..

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+Ex2akn9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:40:10 No.6696275 Report

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>6696249
Goddamned based.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:phvQGlQX Thu 18 Oct 2018 00:46:21 No.6696305 Report

Quoted By: >>6696454

>>6695870
I think just being happy is good

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Baqzxlsx Thu 18 Oct 2018 01:03:46 No.6696383 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
ur moms fat gook ass

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AZtP6821 Thu 18 Oct 2018 01:18:52 No.6696454 Report

Quoted By:

>>6696305
i agree

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:b0xWjgOM Thu 18 Oct 2018 01:25:08 No.6696488 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
liberty and freedom

"safety and security" is only protection from non-government entities

america is somehow the worst of both worlds

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EIo0p8D2 Thu 18 Oct 2018 01:41:21 No.6696556 Report

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Liberty and freedom, for most of the reasons listed here. The state is a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EIo0p8D2 Thu 18 Oct 2018 01:43:31 No.6696570 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
What about you, which would you chose and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:xVJq5FX4 Thu 18 Oct 2018 06:46:24 No.6697714 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
nah m8, we trade security and safety for freedom.
there is nothing wrong with communism

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:qJ0bJbS9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 06:49:51 No.6697730 Report

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Yes

Honest Abe the fresh prince of the /bant/

Honest Abe the fresh prince of the /bant/ ID:XRTFiPqk Thu 18 Oct 2018 06:55:11 No.6697745 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
Yeo safety and security is better imo

Heaven

Heaven ID:f7Hq91Ia Thu 18 Oct 2018 06:57:36 No.6697750 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
you can't truly have one without the other

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:OVHtKckE Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:03:27 No.6697768 Report

Quoted By: >>6697775

I prefer destruction and chaos.

A !CutiepiE.U

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A !CutiepiE.U ID:qJ0bJbS9 Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:04:33 No.6697775 Report

Quoted By:

>>6697768
I'll destroy your boipussy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:abZPOr1d Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:06:35 No.6697787 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
If you don't have privacy, you don't have shit, """safety and security""" is only there to take your privacy away from you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Kirh6Gl6 Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:09:59 No.6697794 Report

Quoted By:

>>6695870
only NPCs choose safety and security over freedom

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:TyaIp3gW Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:21:33 No.6697823 Report

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Y'know, that's a good question. Personally, I don't have a good answer. What I can say is that from what I've seen, that's not, in practice, an ultimatum that can or should be taken at face value. I was thinking about going on a short rant and giving some examples, but I'll just drop a quote instead.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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