>>67186What God? Jesus? Jesus didn't come to remove pain and suffering (well sin yes if you count that as pain and suffering), in fact the way of asceticism in Christianity is supposed to be hard, as it is of course, mercilessly denying your ego. Is that what you'd label as pain and suffering? Anyways I think Buddhists say one of the reasons for why the world/people are in a bad state is due to three primary reasons, ignorance, attachment and something else, technically the right type of knowledge should be able to help out the world, yes? Lastly convince or not yourself, don't ask others for something you should do yourself.