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Is beauty objective fact or biological preference?

Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:50:27 No.7070582 View View Reply Original Report

Is there an objective standard of beauty or do all races have their own set of ideals for what is considered beautiful?

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:51:53 No.7070583 Report

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>>7070582
>Is there an objective standard of beauty

This. I read something about it, apparently childlike facial features in women go strong in basically every society of the world

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:52:05 No.7070584 Report

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Yes but I’d say there is some subjectivity which is where kinks come in

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:52:08 No.7070585 Report

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>>7070582

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:52:11 No.7070586 Report

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>>7070582
It's a fact and jealous shitskins know this. This is why they have such inferiority complexes.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:53:07 No.7070587 Report

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>>7070582
Westernized muds are raised to ahere to eurocentric standards of beuaty unlike their counterparts elsewhere in the world. It's why in the US we have a problem with black men raping white women.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:53:21 No.7070588 Report

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Neoteny is basically the best way to tell if a woman will be considered attractive.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:53:27 No.7070589 Report

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>>7070585
well done annon

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:54:19 No.7070590 Report

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>>7070582
There must be because I find 99% of hispanic and latin american women unattractive and the vatos go nuts for them.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:54:31 No.7070591 Report

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>>7070582
>Is there an objective standard of beauty
yes. people telling you otherwise are either brainwashed by weird ass looking alien models pushed as attractive or trying to convince you that they're not racist

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:55:51 No.7070592 Report

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>>7070585
Wew lad, what a stunner

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:55:56 No.7070593 Report

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Beauty is a white thing

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:56:01 No.7070594 Report

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>>7070582
There is a universal ideal. Notice how the chart get progressively better the further right it goes (except for maybe the Asians who stay consistently beautiful?)

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:56:36 No.7070595 Report

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>>7070582
Beauty is correlated with health and functionality. If your funtional potential was always low you'll always look ugly. But if a dumb negro achieves his low potential, he'll look good for a negro.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:56:51 No.7070596 Report

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>>7070587
implying african niggers dont do the same when they get to europe?

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:57:12 No.7070597 Report

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>>7070582
Beauty standards haven't changed despite what purple armpit hair college students tell you.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:58:03 No.7070598 Report

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>>7070582
clear skin and symmetry. I believe those are the two universal preferences among all cultures.

Then of course we have preferences analyzed by big data. Which universally say white men and asian women are the "most messaged and responded to" which doesn't necessarily say attraction, but it's the best measurement available right now.

Black women and arabic men appear to be the least messaged and responded to. pic related.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 17:58:33 No.7070599 Report

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>>7070582
it's a biological preference. Whether or not a milf or thot wants you is mostly up to your racial compatibility.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:00:24 No.7070600 Report

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:00:42 No.7070601 Report

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>>7070582
Both

A close relative could be smoking hot but taboos aside you shouldn't feel any biological attraction to them unless your fucked up. For the same reasons I'm sure different people have different preferences based on what is the best genetic match for them

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:01:08 No.7070602 Report

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This one is a little easier to read

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:01:35 No.7070603 Report

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>>7070585
I just came in my pants

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:04:25 No.7070604 Report

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:07:02 No.7070605 Report

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>>7070582
she looks like a young tim curry in drag.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:07:11 No.7070606 Report

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:14:26 No.7070607 Report

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Non whites have a much lower standard for beauty it’s theirs shotgun method of breeding, where as Europeans had higher standards because we prefer quality offspring.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:15:09 No.7070608 Report

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>>7070606
I actually had fun reading this :)

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:21:52 No.7070609 Report

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>>7070606
That's just, like.... your opinion, man.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:22:45 No.7070610 Report

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>>7070606
#thotpatrol has been notified.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:23:39 No.7070611 Report

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>>7070582

Biological preference is an objective fact.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:24:14 No.7070612 Report

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>>7070585
They disfigured themselves to avoid slave traders, they still do it; probably to avoid slave traders. You think theres no more slavery in the world? Just lol.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:27:42 No.7070613 Report

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>>7070582
I'd say same standard except a unique standard for Asians, because of very different eyes mostly. Just imagine white skin on a black beauty and face shape is same.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:30:18 No.7070614 Report

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>>7070613
Another example:

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:30:50 No.7070615 Report

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>>7070582
the golden ratio

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:37:41 No.7070616 Report

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>>7070582
It’s both. Every man has subtle variations on the qualities we find attractive. Some guys like thicc women while some guys like slim women. That being said a lot of our preferences are hardwired by biology and that can be seen via statistics and media. Like the hourglass figure being the ideal body shape for fertility.

It also has to deal with exposure and your smv in relation to the best possible tail you can attract

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:40:31 No.7070617 Report

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>>7070606
I don't remember ever seeing black cam girls

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:42:46 No.7070618 Report

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>>7070582
Symmetry

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:43:18 No.7070619 Report

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>>7070582
Mostly objective. You can point to certain identifiable traits which make people sexually attractive.
Take this woman for instance. She has what is known as forward facial growth. That being, the lower two thirds of the face grow forward. In the negroid race it is more pronounced than this and in the Mongoloid race is is less pronounced, but this is a trait which is objectively attractive in all races and genders.
You will not find a single model that does not posses this trait.
And it is only one of many.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:45:47 No.7070620 Report

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the absolute state of 2018

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:47:16 No.7070621 Report

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>>7070620
>2015 picture but "she" gained popularity in 2018

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:47:31 No.7070622 Report

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>>7070582
i'd say cultural preference
2 generations ago the standard of beauty here was being fat/chubby

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:47:35 No.7070623 Report

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>>7070619
Another objectively attractive trait is the prominence of the zygomatic bone. This produces the pronounced cheek bones that are also found on most people we consider attractive. This trait is also directly linked with the forward facial growth I mentioned previously.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:47:51 No.7070624 Report

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>>7070582
It's probably a mixture of many factors. I think that there is some sort of baseline, some aspects that are objective but can be heavily modified by many things.
This is actually my current take on most things. An objective core with addons and modifiers that could be present or not seems like a good perspective to decode the world.
Sort of how you have humans, but variances in genetics and epigenetics modify the result wtihout changing baseline nature.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:48:19 No.7070625 Report

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>>7070588
Pretty much.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:49:09 No.7070626 Report

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>>7070583
>I read something about it, apparently childlike facial features in women go strong in basically every society of the world
It's called neoteny you dumb fagget.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:50:38 No.7070627 Report

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:50:58 No.7070628 Report

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>>7070582
Show me an instance where the European definition of beauty is not considered attractive. Anywhere on the world. Go.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:52:00 No.7070629 Report

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>>7070594
>Asians who stay consistently beautiful
Guess how I know (You) have a rice fetish

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:52:38 No.7070630 Report

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>>7070623
When it comes to body shape, the difference in attractive standards becomes more apparent.
With men, Broader shoulders, smaller hips, and a larger torso to leg length ratio.
With Women, Wider hips, narrower shoulders, and legs longer than torso is more attractive. This combined with a small wist gives the very desirable "hourglass" figure.

And no, chubby women were never perceived as being more beautiful in the past.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:56:35 No.7070631 Report

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>insert obvious beauty is in the eyes of the beholder statement here.

I think there are a lot of factors when it comes to standards of beauty. Age, race, build, personal preferences and culture. In the end I believe it is up to the individual.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:56:41 No.7070632 Report

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>>7070582
It is objective and indirect proof is that most ppl from all races find same phenotypes appealing.

Other circumstantial evidence that points towards this direction is art creation. Take for example anime where character form evolved to what is nowadays as for more ppl to find them appealing. Interesting is that you can instinctually recognize beauty even if you didn't met anything similar in your entire life or even if your ancestors didn't met anything with that appearance or aesthetics. Now this goes fuckin deep.

I wonder though if other animals see beauty in the same places where we see it from their unique perspective. It would be exciting to see what the visual stimuli responses would be for animals from different species. And not only mammals, but insects and reptiles too.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 18:58:23 No.7070633 Report

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>>7070630
regarding the changing of beauty standard over time. Thin to average women with proportionally wider hips have always been seen as the attractive standard. Most any medieval or renaissance art reflects this.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:03:22 No.7070634 Report

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>>7070582
Her eyes,.. p

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:07:08 No.7070635 Report

Quoted By: >>7070638

>>7070633
1. The human is not perfect. From this evolvement of its standards seems only natural.
2. Wider hips as the standard in classic art might have just cultural roots. Like the "child bearing hips" millenary meme.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:10:21 No.7070636 Report

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>>7070582
Only to a degree.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:11:12 No.7070637 Report

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>>7070583
Health and youth which is health.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:12:19 No.7070638 Report

Quoted By: >>7070643

>>7070635
>Wider hips as the standard in classic art might have just cultural roots
Still, this is a pretty consistent trait across most cultures and time periods.
>The human is not perfect. From this evolvement of its standards seems only natural.
Humans have evolved to perceive healthiness as sexually attractive. Since humans haven't evolved much since the dawn of civilization, there has been very little change in what the human perceives as healthy and therefore attractive.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:15:11 No.7070639 Report

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>>7070628

You would need to take in account a time before imperialism and globalization. When the chinks meet europeans they though their deep set eyes and long noses were hideous.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:15:19 No.7070640 Report

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>>7070606
>work
KEK!

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:18:34 No.7070641 Report

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>>7070594
Kind of a moot point at this stage, but I would like to see how non-anglo white mixing with anglo would average, since that's what many white Americans are.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:26:10 No.7070642 Report

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There is probably a little bit of both.
In feudal Japan, dying the teeth black was considered attractive, for example.
But some characteristics (larger eyes for women, for example) seems to be preferred everywhere.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:30:01 No.7070643 Report

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>>7070638
1. it is consistent because life=good, death=bad.
It is like the incest taboo where incest had larger prevalence of birth defects. So wider hips had gave larger prevalence of healthy children compared with slimer ones. Though I still remember some like 30 years ago as our middle school latin teacher cite a lot of roman writers and proverbs where feminity ideal was presented as all things delicate (what is pretty much the consensus today) instead.

2. We talk about beauty here not only about boner givers. And no, humans didn't evolve as that. Or did only in some archetypal part. Otherwise we wouldn't find fragile little cunts as beautiful, but heavylifter men or something.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:31:43 No.7070644 Report

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the standard is set by the (((folks))) who own the media, thus the "embrace my curves" and "body diversity" rage we have seen over the past 5 years

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:35:38 No.7070645 Report

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>>7070644
indoctrination into ugliness would never result in a real standard and should wash up the moment that pressure gets diminished or gone.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Dec 2018 19:36:37 No.7070646 Report

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>>7070582
White girls are non ironically the best looking girls on Earth, but due to modern US culture their egos are sky high

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