>>7156694while trying to set up and spread co-operatives and unions is definitely a socialist project, the ultimate goal of socialism is to abolish the market, and dismantle/wither the state.
what we do with the state reflects the principles of your school, and your definition of the state.
if you're a marxist, you hold that the state is more or less an agregate will of a particular class, be it bourgeois, or proletarian, therefore, marxists believe that the dictatoriship of the bourgeoisie can only be dismantled by the dictatorship of the proletariat. and the dictatorship of the proletariat can only wither once class antagonisms under the proletarians have been eliminated.
if you're an anarchist, you hold that the state is a combination of 3 things: a governing body that holds a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, a constituency upon whom that violence is committed, and a marked territory where this violence, by such a body and upon such a constituency is ordained as legitimate, and anarchists reject the notion that the state's violence is any more legitimate than the violence of the individual or class.
anarchists therefore believe that the market and the state must be abolished, simultaneously if possible, if not, pretty close to being simultaneous.
i happen to be an anarchist.
some anarchists and marxists agree that both schools, under the right circumstances, may successfully implement what marx called "FULL COMMUNISM", understood by all socialists to be the final and permanent triumph of the left
