>>717904no comment
>>717905it's you who define killing as active protection. but even in that logic, it would only make sense if you live in a dangerous environment, which may be the case in the US. the thing is, you can try to argue about guns controls, either you are a pro-guns or anti-guns, in both cases you will always find a logic because none of you are wrong depending on what you value the most. the thing is, you must admit that the number of people killed in the US is way higher than those in the countries of europe where guns are banned. and again, as myself, i am not particularly anti-guns