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Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Mon 05 Aug 2019 17:55:03 No.8496263 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>8500904 >>8501066 >>8503747 >>8503751

>Discover Pandora, a moon on a planet on the nearest neighboring solar system
>Technology has advanced to the point traveling between Earth and Pandora is practical enough for commercial mining
>Still use helicopters

I know the movie is more fantasy than sci-fi, but this shit still bugs me.

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Anonymous ID:fhyy8pc3 Mon 05 Aug 2019 19:05:10 No.8496550 Report

Quoted By: >>8498894

What do you think they would use then? Helicopters are ideal for rough terrain

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Mon 05 Aug 2019 21:49:29 No.8498894 Report

Quoted By: >>8498926 >>8503765

>>8496550
If you've developed a propulsion system efficient enough to make interstellar travel feasible, you've developed a propulsion system far more efficient than a helicopter.

You'd have to come up with some really convoluted reason why it couldn't be scaled-down to propel an aircraft.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gJ4E5ii4 Mon 05 Aug 2019 21:53:00 No.8498926 Report

Quoted By: >>8500889

>>8498894
atmospheric propulsion != spacecraft propulsion

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Anonymous ID:YFgNKfWc Tue 06 Aug 2019 00:19:07 No.8499855 Report

Quoted By: >>8500889

Navi are xenos and xenos are scum.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:10:25 No.8500889 Report

Quoted By: >>8501246

>>8498926
Unless they ever bothered to explain their space propulsion, there's no reason to think it wouldn't work just as well in an atmosphere.

>>8499855
Disagree. Xeno pussy is the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gAvg3tsV Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:12:41 No.8500904 Report

Quoted By: >>8500942

>>8496263
also shouldn't the weapons be controlled by drones with artificial intelligence and aim bots

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Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:18:20 No.8500942 Report

Quoted By: >>8500985

>>8500904
Also true. A bunch of flying drones with guns would be a lot better at fighting than those mech suits, but the suits are also basically space suits since the atmosphere was toxic or something. The helicopter thing just bugs me because it's an easy fix, with something like a rocket VTOL instead of propellers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gAvg3tsV Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:23:49 No.8500985 Report

Quoted By: >>8501038 >>8501127

>>8500942
i feel like western media really gets cucked out of practical and good sci fi.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iFawmO0Y Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:31:51 No.8501038 Report

Quoted By: >>8501081

>>8500985
i dont think avatar is very hard scifi to be fair.

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Anonymous ID:BEHMWJph Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:38:14 No.8501066 Report

Quoted By: >>8501081

>>8496263

It's likely a cost analysis. Even if the space-travel technology has been standardized to the point that it's cost efficient, doesn't necessarily mean that it's worth using for grunt-tier military operations.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:soBCs9TQ Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:41:11 No.8501078 Report

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Helicopters are cool, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gAvg3tsV Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:41:29 No.8501081 Report

Quoted By: >>8501127

>>8501038
maybe i just want novel and different things. I dont get the feel of sci fi in films that i get out of it from books usually.

>>8501066
Ya as an audience we can be more charitable in our assumptions such that it makes more sense

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:47:43 No.8501127 Report

Quoted By: >>8501257 >>8503271

>>8500985
>>8501081
That's because practical immediately reads as boring to your average movie-goer. Most scifi movies care more about using scifi for spectacle than anything else. Science-fantasy like Star Wars really crapped on the scifi genre by just taking a fantasy story and painting 'science' over most of it and far too many movies have copied that formula.

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Anonymous ID:gJ4E5ii4 Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:51:04 No.8501246 Report

Quoted By: >>8502208

>>8500889
generally space propulsion is far weaker than atmospheric propulsion, as it is not required to defeat surface gravity and the craft can just build up speed over time

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Anonymous ID:gAvg3tsV Tue 06 Aug 2019 03:52:44 No.8501257 Report

Quoted By: >>8502208

>>8501127
i agree
I also think actual sci fi not the fantasy crap is more controversial and edgy when translated into film.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Tue 06 Aug 2019 05:15:02 No.8502208 Report

Quoted By: >>8503255

>>8501246
I don't think you understand that if you want to get out of the solar system and back within your lifetime, you're going to need a shit-ton more power than the space propulsion you're thinking of.

>>8501257
I think the problem isn't the controversy, it's the audience stupidity. Originally The Matrix was going to involve human brains wired together to create a supercomputer, but some exec thought audiences would be too stupid to get it, so it was changed to robots using people as batteries.

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Anonymous ID:gJ4E5ii4 Tue 06 Aug 2019 06:16:50 No.8503255 Report

Quoted By: >>8503765

>>8502208
what is a solar sail?
the time it takes to accelerate really doesn't make much of a difference in interstellar travel, it's going to take an extremely long time regardless
that's why they freeze themselves for the trip

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iFawmO0Y Tue 06 Aug 2019 06:20:21 No.8503271 Report

Quoted By: >>8503670

>>8501127
again star wars isnt really sci fi its more science fantasy. its magic knights in space first and foremost and space with magic knights secondmost if you get me. its very soft scifi

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Anonymous ID:vFCoDPCo Tue 06 Aug 2019 07:42:38 No.8503670 Report

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>>8503271
Part of my point is that scifi has gotten so soft over time it's all basically just science-fantasy these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:lHRxFtCc Tue 06 Aug 2019 08:14:15 No.8503747 Report

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>>8496263
>atmosphere is 3 times thicker than on earth
>low oxygen
Jets would be pointless while helis would be literally 3 times as effective as they are on earth.
>they produce shit with 3d printing on pandora cause hauling shit from earth is superduper expensive
>probably can't reproduce ultra hightech stuff and assemble it on the spot
>helis are easy to build
Its really very logical only thing I see wrong with it is why didn't they just use flying stones for producing means of transportation but that can be explained by tech not being advanced enough as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:lHRxFtCc Tue 06 Aug 2019 08:16:44 No.8503751 Report

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>>8496263
also people keep missing elephant in the room
they literally had tech for uploading consciousness on harddrive, why the fuck didn't they use it in the first place instead of getting fuckton marines to pandora is a mystery

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Anonymous ID:xJXqOjXj Tue 06 Aug 2019 08:26:52 No.8503765 Report

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>>8498894
besides what he said >>8503255
another problem is the cost of fuel: A helicopter engine needs less fuel than a propulsion engine.
In addition, how do you plan to apply space travel technologies in an atmosphere with atmosphere and friction?
The absence of these 2 factors is the basis on which the engines operate In the space.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iVh35g7q Tue 06 Aug 2019 14:12:47 No.8505317 Report

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