Ok retards, I doubt anyone here actually knows the Ontological and Cosmological arguments, but I’m assuming you do. I present another logical argument for a higher power. Energy and matter can be neither created nor destroyed. This fundamental law has stood firm and cannot be broken. Anyone who argues it can is a Jew. If it can not be created, then the argument that the universe started on its own can not stand. Our own scientific laws require an equal or greater force to the entire fucking universe for anything to exist at all. We know the universe is not forever, it had a beginning. For it to begin, that energy has to come from somewhere, entropy denies the entire premise of a Big Bang. The only possibility using the laws of physics is an equal or greater being that has no beginning to allow for the existence of anything finite. Atheists can’t cope. Cultural Jews btfo