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Psychonaut General Thread

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:38:01 No.9462114 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>9462115 >>9462117 >>9462119 >>9462120 >>9462121 >>9462132 >>9462150 >>9462151 >>9462157 >>9462773

What metaphysical knowledge have you guys learned from consuming psychedelics and meditating?

I recently consumed 8 grams of psilocybin and I am almost certain that I was present in a reality which crossed with this one but contained more dimensions. In my present state of mind of sobriety it is inscrutable but it certainly felt logical and real in the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:39:06 No.9462115 Report

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>>9462114
Vote for Bernie!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:41:31 No.9462116 Report

Quoted By: >>9462117

DMT. Degenerate druggie shit aside... It was an intense experience and definitely changed my world view.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:42:44 No.9462117 Report

Quoted By: >>9462124

>>9462114
>>9462116
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:43:23 No.9462118 Report

Quoted By: >>9462127 >>9462136 >>9462147 >>9462158

Very simple. Here’s what I learned:

What you’re being shown is of demonic origination. You will be convinced for a while you’re the recipient of knowledge, but sooner or later your soul will see through the charade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:43:25 No.9462119 Report

Quoted By: >>9462122 >>9462123 >>9462137 >>9462143

>>9462114
There are multiple levels to consciousness and existence.

Also I'm telepathic now, have been for 10 years. The purpose of synchronicities is to guide individuals to the understanding that there is more to this life than meets the eye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:44:59 No.9462120 Report

Quoted By: >>9462126

>>9462114
>contained more dimensions

What do you define as being dimensions? Are you talking about vibrations of electromagnetic energy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:45:20 No.9462121 Report

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>>9462114
I have learned that you don't need drugs to achieve the 9th plane of dimensions. Your drugs create a fake dimension from which you will never escape a be forever trapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:46:01 No.9462122 Report

Quoted By: >>9462131

>>9462119
>Also I'm telepathic now

Everyone is telepathic on a subconscious level, our bodies are all linked by the bio-energy around us that is in the air.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:46:50 No.9462123 Report

Quoted By: >>9462125 >>9462129 >>9462131

>>9462119
Then you know what I'm thinking?

...........no your wrong faggit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:47:12 No.9462124 Report

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>>9462117
It completely disintegrates your ego. It's hard to put into words but I came out with a very humbling feeling. Like I knew myself better and reasons for how I act within the universe. I haven't really changed my behavior since but I find myself thinking about my actions differently than I ever would have before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:48:45 No.9462125 Report

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>>9462123
"eet doosnt woork dut wayyy"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:49:05 No.9462126 Report

Quoted By: >>9462134

>>9462120
It’s quite difficult to explain. Being the 3 dimensional beings that we are. The best i can do is say that they were areas that bled through our reality. With enough concentration and someone by me to document the experience i may be able to discern exactly what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:49:07 No.9462127 Report

Quoted By: >>9462133 >>9462142 >>9462164

>>9462118
Fake fake fake. Your christcuckery shows. No such things as demons. All made up. Your a fake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:49:35 No.9462128 Report

Quoted By: >>9462133 >>9462166

DMT elves are just kike demons.
Ask them if they believe in Jesus Christ and they’ll reveal their evil side real quick.
Psychedelics in my experience also make meditation useless. I never got real results from meditation until I quiet weed and psychedelics.
Regardless, this is not /pol/ related, psych threads belong in /x/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:50:04 No.9462129 Report

Quoted By: >>9462146

>>9462123
He would have to have a very advanced level of telepathic ability to know that right now, with most people they might pick up stuff randomly here and there or have vague generalized feelings associated with what others might be feeling.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:50:44 No.9462130 Report

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It feels like you're both people in pic related at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:50:59 No.9462131 Report

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>>9462122
I used to think everybody was, then it came out that tons of people don't even have an "inner voice", so that got me thinking maybe everyone isn't. I still think a lot of people are, or everybody is innately, but many people simply ignore it and don't develop it so they lose the ability.

>>9462123
Doesn't work like that.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:51:40 No.9462132 Report

Quoted By: >>9462135

>>9462114
in the realm beyond lie demons which only exist based on the energy recieved. Jack off? your feeding that demon following you around. Went SR/nofap 2 months met a real succubus, absolutely insane experience, probably the most sexualized being ive ever seen, pure black like void, had a scaled tail so im assuming shape shifter or something that has to do with lizard people.

ended up having ultra realistic sex like astral projection, toward the end started rising off the bed, shouldve stopped but didnt.

asked a kabbalist about it later he told me that succubus would create a new demon for someone with my impregnation based on my most evil desires/thoughts.

or it was a wet dream

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:53:09 No.9462133 Report

Quoted By: >>9462140 >>9462171

>>9462127
Why are you lying?
>>9462128
Precisely.

To all you “woke” psychonauts who thought they’ve found the light within. Try and take Christ into a trip, and see how it goes. Watch as your fractal dimensions turn into Hell and the entities spit at you.

Never forget what Satan is, the angel transformed by light. There exists false light. To deny this is to be the very prideful egotist you desperately attempt to dissolve with acid.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:53:45 No.9462134 Report

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>>9462126
I am not sure if what I say is accurate but when you say bled through our reality, it really makes me suspect you were sensing vibrations of electromagnatic energy that we are not normally aware of and you were sensing the way these different sort of vibrations intersected within our own reality which is simply one vibrational level of electromagnetic energy

Within each level of electromegnetic energy you would have your corresponding forms of matter, different forms of material existences correspond with different levels of energy

I suggest people read The Ether of Space by Oliver Lodge

You can also attume your mind naturally to more subtle vibrations of energy by staring upon a fixed point in the blackness of outer space for about half an hour straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:54:10 No.9462135 Report

Quoted By: >>9462141

>>9462132
SR is the only way to live.
Fapping is poison for the soul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:54:43 No.9462136 Report

Quoted By: >>9462138 >>9462139

>>9462118
This.

I use marijuana on Sunday and was brutally attacked by demons. One of them told me about Kobe's murder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:55:40 No.9462137 Report

Quoted By: >>9462163

>>9462119
Who wants us to know that and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:56:40 No.9462138 Report

Quoted By: >>9462161

>>9462136
>One of them told me about Kobe's murder.

What did they say about it? What was the nature of the attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:57:23 No.9462139 Report

Quoted By: >>9462161

>>9462136
What did the demons say exactly and what was the nature of the attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:57:35 No.9462140 Report

Quoted By: >>9462145 >>9462153 >>9462155

>>9462133
Christ is simply an egregore which represents spiritual freedom and agency, which is why some higher level entities don't like it. They want to control you, it isn't necessarily proof Christ is the way to salvation bit it proves rather that some entities are the enemy of self-agency. Subtle difference but extremely important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:57:38 No.9462141 Report

Quoted By: >>9462144

>>9462135
What is SR?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:57:47 No.9462142 Report

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>>9462127
haha, i was an atheist until i did lsd shrooms and dmt, not that i was shown god but realized these entities are very strong.

When you use a drug your giving full control of your "inner voice"/"mind" (which is your soul, or atleast the most metaphysical or real interpretation of your soul) to demons.

you can even grow relationships with the drugs, as they show you more, show you less, cloud you, or propell you forward. The LSD demon has always been kind to me, the shrooms demon not so much. The weed demon helped me a lot, but also stunted me, and when it was my time to move on the weed stared giving me terrible effects with thoughts like "stop smoking/never smoke again/use the knowledge" until i stopped.

there is only one true god, and his son died for us all

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 23:58:35 No.9462143 Report

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>>9462119
This is creepy yo because this shit happens to me a lot. I also used to dabble in the occult, what does it all mean? For what purpose?

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:00:03 No.9462144 Report

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>>9462141
semen retention. not masturbating and holding the sperm, you will be forced into spiritually through SR, as demons fight for your energy/cum, and god slowly hands you a rope to pull yourself by, but also enough that you could hang yourself with, its a real journey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:00:35 No.9462145 Report

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>>9462140
interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:00:40 No.9462146 Report

Quoted By: >>9462148 >>9462154

>>9462129
Go back to the source of all creation. The answer lies in the natural chemicals whi h created the universe. The primdoral soup or ether you might say. It's all around you. Your made from it. Drugs blocks the ether and your interpretation is diluted. There is a way to tap into the ether and flow with it. And yes, you can read minds and develop pregocnition through predicted balances in the chemical ether. I have achieved the 9th level as my target is the 12th. I can tell the future but cannot speak of it. I could have all the riches of the world but it would do no good as purity in the ether is diluted with the stink of humanity and all it represents. The balance is a tender one and the tug of the cord can be broken. The cord (connection to the ether) gets stronger over time but is made weak by human desire and the scum around you. The true method is never shared and once past one dimension it cannot be shared as it's like a protonic particle, once observed it knows it's being observed and changes shape and direction. Hence it cannot be taught to others and nobody will ever know or learn of your true power. Bye bye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:01:30 No.9462147 Report

Quoted By: >>9462170

>>9462118
This is the only correct person in the thread, newbie psychonauts beware. Simply ask the entities to tell you of Jesus Christ and you will see

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:02:04 No.9462148 Report

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>>9462146
bye homie

LSD is a pretty cool guy. eh lasts 12 hours for $20 and doesn't afraid of anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:02:29 No.9462149 Report

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LSD here, but it's always about love and understanding the few times I did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:03:04 No.9462150 Report

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>>9462114
take 7 grams and listen to the gospel of luke on audio book in the pitch dark

I fucking dare you faggots

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:03:15 No.9462151 Report

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>>9462114
This is probably pearls before swine, and it sounds cliché. But we as men have a higher self living in a higher frequency than our current, or it could be a lower frequency but all the cumulative actions and thoughts of individuals here have an impact above and below our frequency and we are cells in a body bigger than ourselves just as your liver cells don't know or have the capacity to know what's happening on "this" frequency. As above so below and everything is part of something bigger and everything gets consumed.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:03:29 No.9462152 Report

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Psychedelics are a meme anything they """teach""" you can easily be realized sober(maybe they help low IQ people) I just like doing psychedelics because cool visuals and laughing hard as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:03:44 No.9462153 Report

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>>9462140
“I am the truth and the way and the life, none comes to the father except through me.” This is the word of Christ. Notice he says through me. Pay attention to how he doesn’t say through the mushroom, or through LSD.

The psychedelic will show you heaven for as long as you remain in an egotistical state of self-worship, maintaining the lie that you are God experiencing himself. The second you think better of that conclusion and invoke Jesus Christ is the second that Heaven turns into Hell.

Find me a single entity who bows to Christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:04:08 No.9462154 Report

Quoted By: >>9462168

>>9462146
You raise a lot of good points I agree with and will think on but I do think material riches is a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:04:12 No.9462155 Report

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>>9462140
Christ keeps coming around again. The man was clearly plugged in deep.

"In the letters to the early Christian churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, reference is made to a synagogue of Satan (Greek: συναγωγή τοῦ Σατανᾶ, synagoge tou satana), in each case referring to a group persecuting "who say they are Jews and are not"."

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:04:20 No.9462156 Report

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:04:44 No.9462157 Report

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>>9462114
Not politics
sage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:04:48 No.9462158 Report

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>>9462118

cringe

Anonymous.gov

Anonymous.gov Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:05:02 No.9462159 Report

Quoted By: >>9462162

Our souls connect us to the metaverse which is multi-dimensional array of data that describes the physical representations of conscious beings.

I realized this during a dream.

I've never consumed any psychedelic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:05:16 No.9462160 Report

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>kyle unironically thinks he's been bestowed with cosmic wisdom for doing nothing but eating a fungus
in rational psychonautics there's no room for headassery

i mean u won't have any grand epiphanies or visions just by taking drugs. what you will find is that when used wisely, psychedelics can be a tool to help you see what's been right in front of you the whole time. i mean, they kinda make you feel everything intensely, and clarify connections and patterns---visually and shit sure, but mostly thoughts, attitudes, people, events.

i would love to delve into the field of psychedelic therapy. there is so much potential for these substances, and the fag pharma/law enforcement complex is cockblocking it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:05:43 No.9462161 Report

Quoted By: >>9462167

>>9462138
>>9462139
At the time I posted this
>>241088205

It was like automatic writing and shortly after followed by the experience of my brain going through a blender of sorts on its way back to my skull.

After this I went to a strip club to drink some water and sit down. While I was there the demon spoke through me to other people (or other people's demons). People were noticeably interested in the hoodie I was wearing -- which was weird. One of the strippers repeatedly said to me "you're so young" and I felt like she was talking to the demon.

While I was sitting in the chair by myself I said "in the name of Jesus Christ I command you to leave me" which was followed by violent head convulsions and the sensation of gusta of air moving up my spine and through my neck. These would have hit my head if not for it being pushed far back and to the side by the convulsions.

I've now decided to dedicate my life to Jesus. Won't be going to anymore strip clubs, obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:06:22 No.9462162 Report

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>>9462159
good ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:06:49 No.9462163 Report

Quoted By: >>9462173

>>9462137
There is no single figure directing it all. Wanting to "know" is an inherent quality of consciousness and the energy that makes up the totality of existence. Just like water "wants" to seek a level plane. It is beyond conscious motivation and explanation, it is simply a fundamental inherent quality of existence in the first place.

Human beings for example run a scenario analysis/model using hundreds/thousands/millions of permutations and combinations to "know" and discover a a truth about x y or z. Just like each human being or living thing is a specific per mutation combination for consciousness to discover something about itself.

Just because we are all part of this unified endeavor does not mean it is impossible to make value judgements, that is a new age trap many people fall into. It does not mean everything is equal or acceptable. It simply means there are different outcomes you can arrive at from the same starting point, which is why you have "negative" and "positive" entities, just like you have "good" and "bad" people, the same tensions exist in higher realms as we are dealing with right now, and they too have higher orders they cannot access or fully understand.

That's just what life is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:07:06 No.9462164 Report

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>>9462127
You're a fool, demons do exist though they exist in a different capacity and different agency than us. Angels and demons are intangible and have agency over different domains like mathematics and the sciences. Demons are fallen angels and by focusing and "listening" to demons you hurt yourself. Like a selfish person focused on materialism and acquiring wealth above all else.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:07:29 No.9462165 Report

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DON'T THINK ABOUT PURPLE DOLPHINS
DON'T LOOK AT ANY IMAGE RELATED TO CCA-XX1
THE SINGULARITY ALREADY HAPPENED
LVING 2D STICK MEN ARE FUCKING REAL

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:07:59 No.9462166 Report

Quoted By: >>9462172

>>9462128
Shut up faggot. Psychedelics have had a huge impact on politics and it is not politically correct to discuss metaphysical ideas publicly unless you work with a bunch of hippies. It is very relevant to the board, regardless of what you think of the substances themselves. You are an enormous faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:08:30 No.9462167 Report

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>>9462161
>>>241088205
it seems you are suggesting demonic consciousnesses organized the ritual sacrifice, but this would not mean humans consciously did anything, it could mean circumstances happened by serendipity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:09:02 No.9462168 Report

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>>9462154
You can't have it both ways. The ether is a pure balance of universal origin made from every single proton in the universe. Humans and our brains are not made for it we were a fluke in nature and never meant to exist except we did and we have used hokus pokus to try and explain it when all it needs is for you is to tune in to it. Understand how a proton changes when observed and you will be at the beginning of a personal journey and everlasting life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:10:09 No.9462169 Report

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Psilocybin is extremely good for depression, DMT is just something else, It’s hard to say if DMT is of this world or not, I don’t know what the elves are about, has anyone talked to elves on DMT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:10:20 No.9462170 Report

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>>9462147
Nonsense. 2c-b made me a devout Christian for about 5 minutes. I got down on the floor prostrate and prayed. Then it left and I was a Buddhist again.

There's nothing in psychedelics that's inherently anti-christian. You had those thoughts because demons/Satan/etc are part of your mental set to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:10:35 No.9462171 Report

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>>9462133
Try to take any low IQ, superficial belief system into a deep trip and it will be decimated. Including christcuckery.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:11:11 No.9462172 Report

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>>9462166
psychedelics basically just reveal to us the mechanics of the universe that would explain how prayers and incantations can effect material reality, the Carmina Gadelica is a book of ancient European incantations that can be used for good or ill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:11:39 No.9462173 Report

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>>9462163
Could we call it the "spirit realm" so we have something we can easily refer to? Was the universe intelligently designed by this spirit realm or was the spirit realm created along with the universe during the big bang?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1xm12NY/ Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:13:56 No.9462289 Report

Quoted By: >>9462298 >>9462306

>>241506229
Only thing that happened to me with DMT is I went to hyper prison, I was not myself but I was in a room with no doors or windows and there was symbols (hieroglyphs) covering the walls ceiling and floor. Even there was no windows or doors there was a light illuminating this chamber and I could feel the presence of something watching me from behind my head. I don't know what I did to end up in hyper prison but it seemed pretty boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:15:26 No.9462298 Report

Quoted By: >>9462309 >>9462346

>>9462289
>there was symbols (hieroglyphs) covering the walls ceiling and floor.

maybe language and words create boxes for consciousness to be put in

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:l/vZupb3 Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:17:11 No.9462306 Report

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>>9462289
I had the same thing that moved instantly as I moved. Very very unnerving

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1xm12NY/ Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:17:57 No.9462309 Report

Quoted By: >>9462324 >>9462346

>>9462298
That simple concept just blew me away. On the topic of creation to create you must limit and confine, to create life you must limit and confine energy into a form with an order of functions. I'm not trying to give you a big head but I think you understood the imagery better than me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:24:02 No.9462324 Report

Quoted By: >>9462346

>>9462309
>to create life you must limit and confine energy into a form with an order of functions.

This is a very good point, I had not considered that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dsnTBs8L Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:36:03 No.9462346 Report

Quoted By: >>9462372

>>9462298
>>9462309
>>9462324

This is known as linguistic determinism. Nietzsche talks about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1xm12NY/ Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:46:52 No.9462372 Report

Quoted By: >>9462388

>>9462346
>linguistic determinism
Thanks anon, reading about it now. It really drives home how proper punctuation and vocabulary are important to thinking and forming ideas and concepts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dsnTBs8L Thu 30 Jan 2020 00:51:19 No.9462388 Report

Quoted By: >>9462416

>>9462372
Its more than that. It’s not just language as we understand it in the formal sense, but forms of thought. Try looking up Nietzsche’s perspectivism. Nietzsche says that we fit the content of the world into various forms. He uses procrustes’ bed as an analogy. For example, thinghood (“substance” is the philosophical term) is one such form. Nietzsche doesnt believe thinghood exists; he believes in a heraclitean world of becoming where everything is in flux.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:02:23 No.9462416 Report

Quoted By: >>9462433

>>9462388
This is why we need some form of tradition or a people need some form of self definition, without tradition everything oozes out into nothingness and humanity just moves from one thing to the next like formless blobs, randomly morphing without a history, like liberal nihilist consumers.

Russians, Israelis, etc, seem to be able to maintain a self definition, The West is threatened with non-definition.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1xm12NY/ Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:07:37 No.9462433 Report

Quoted By: >>9462441

>>9462416
But how can you establish a concrete history/culture/tradition when egalitarianism and liberalism are the core tenets of western society? imho we need to destroy the western world as it stands to save the western world.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1xm12NY/ Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:09:58 No.9462441 Report

Quoted By: >>9462459 >>9462468

>>9462433
in other words we need to have a winter where green trees turn to skeletons so we can have a spring and see new life.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:16:56 No.9462459 Report

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>>9462441
You're probably right

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dsnTBs8L Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:25:01 No.9462468 Report

Quoted By: >>9462481

>>9462441
That’s very Nietzschean of you to say.

WP 890: The dwarfing of man must for a long time count as the only goal; because a broad foundation has first to be created so that a stronger species of man can stand upon it. (To what extent every strengthening of species of man hitherto has stood upon a level of the lower—)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:33:49 No.9462481 Report

Quoted By: >>9462830

>>9462468
Well every society has its freemen and serf class, even ancient Ireland had that even though they try to pretend they are all just one people.

So I mean I don't think this concept of a dwarf social class has to be very harsh or cruel or whatever, it is just the order of society, and who knows perhaps I am a member of this dwarfed social class.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oYtZ0s6V Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:49:03 No.9462773 Report

Quoted By: >>9462825 >>9462869

>>9462114

One time about 10 years ago when I was really high on Acid and Ketamine in the woods i laid down and closed my eyes for a while.

I asked this girl who was sharing a cig with me if I was just hallucinating inside my own head or if i was in a different dimension ,

she exhaled, laughed, and said "from my point of view your head and your dimension look like an ant next to an apple.

but it was just me.
I was alone .
where did she come from?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:52:51 No.9462825 Report

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>>9462773
She could have been a female ancestral ghost. I personally don't mess around with psychedelics(anymore), but people do see into other realities(that can also be accessed in dreams and meditation).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dsnTBs8L Thu 30 Jan 2020 01:53:15 No.9462830 Report

Quoted By: >>9462853 >>9462867

>>9462481
When Nietzsche says the dwarfing of man, he’s referring to the promotion of nihilism and world-denying metaphysics

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Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:02:16 No.9462853 Report

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What are you saying about this dwarfing? Do you think its serves a purpose? Do you think the dwarfing is an end in itself or leads to something else?

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Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:06:35 No.9462867 Report

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>>9462830
Oh wait a minute... just as freemen or nobles stand upon serfs, so do does a more health social order emerge from an age of nihilism(the dwarfing of man).

And I don't think a serf class is necessarily unhealthy but I am just applying what appears to be his analogy.

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The female could also have been a representation of the spirit of mother earth. A spirit of the earth itself

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Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:07:54 No.9462871 Report

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>a more health social order
A more healthy social order

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Anonymous ID:74Ns1K+Q Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:26:28 No.9462956 Report

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Psychedelics are something I’ve wanted to experiment with. I was raised in the church and a lot of the topics discussed in this thread have starking similarities to the values they preach. I was wondering if there was any books you guys know of that could help me learn more about this topic.

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Anonymous ID:dsnTBs8L Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:32:25 No.9462974 Report

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>>9462867
This is the issue with Nietzsche. You have to read and understand his philosophy in order to understand these fragmented passages.

The idea is basically that growth springs forth from decay, which is closely linked to his ontology—but i won’t get into that.

>so do does a more health social order emerge from an age of nihilism(the dwarfing of man).

This is precisely it. Following the age of nihilism, nietzsche predicts the neo-tragic age—an age when his philosophy manifests; when all of life is celebrated, most especially suffering and the qualities of becoming. Nietzsche hypothesized that the Greeks celebrated suffering with tragic art hence it would be a neo-tragic age.

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Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:37:38 No.9462994 Report

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>Following the age of nihilism, nietzsche predicts the neo-tragic age—an age when his philosophy manifests; when all of life is celebrated, most especially suffering and the qualities of becoming. Nietzsche hypothesized that the Greeks celebrated suffering with tragic art hence it would be a neo-tragic age.

I agree with Nietzsche that something new would emerge, something more solid or healthy. Because now that I think of it, leftists must be natural consumers of what was never solid to begin with.

Will it be a neo-classical thing similar to ancient Greece? Or neo-tragic as he put it...

At this point I can't say where I think things will go, maybe we have a number of options ahead of us. I think Nietzsche was trying to push things in the direction he was predicting though and I think he was right about noticing the decaye happening.

But I don't know the new form that will emerge, maybe you have a better grasp of the situation than me, but ... I mean this idea is very comforting because the leftists don't scare me any more, they just seem like termites or soemthing, part of nature

But who knows what the next thing is, a rebirth of the old? Something entirely new? Who knows...

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Anonymous ID:R6wfeTr9 Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:38:42 No.9463001 Report

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Leftists are agents of decaying weak structures I mean

Leftists eat what is weak

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Anonymous ID:74Ns1K+Q Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:46:18 No.9463025 Report

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So start with Nietzsche

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Anonymous ID:dsnTBs8L Thu 30 Jan 2020 03:29:00 No.9463126 Report

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>Will it be a neo-classical thing similar to ancient Greece? Or neo-tragic as he put it...

Ancient Greece is a very broad term for a civilization spanning 2700BC to the defeat of the various Greek states to Rome. Nietzsche was only generally only fond of Greek philosophy before Socrates. (But he’s also fond of Epictetus, Pyrrho, and Epicurus). He calls Socrates a Jew, meaning his philosophy is reflective of Semitic cultures.

So to go back to your question, it would be a culture similar to that of Greece during the time of Pericles.

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