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Our universe had a beginning and thus an external creation force. Here's a formalized proof.
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A1a: we live in a causal universe
A1b: every effect has a cause
A2a: if we follow that chain back far enough we reach “the beginning of our universe”
A2b: If an in-universe cause preceded this, it is not “the beginning of our universe”
Therefore our universe began with an external cause;

B1: premise A1 is foundational to discerning truth through science
B2: premise A2 is a tautology.
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Therefore arguing against A requires you to argue against the validity of the foundation of using science to discern knowledge.

Ironically, most atheists when met with this logical proof tend to determine that science is invalid.

This much should be indisputable, but when people start giving proper names that start with 'G' to this external creation force...why does the Atheists mind cease to function? Is it an apostasy thing?