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For an update nobody asked for: gens seemed better at 2-3.5 cfg even for cfg++, dpm++ sde looked good but fucj waiting twice as long per gen. Overall still haven't figured out getting rid of the washed out look but just keeping flat color corrects a lot of coloring issues, lineart did the most swings and now sometimes I get full blood red or hard color images I assume is just the bg color shit I picked combining with lineart. Not sure if running a different upscaler could correct the colors running remacri right now