>>1044183>>1044168>what's so special about them.They aren't a gamble and most people don't know what's involved in buying or building a good touring bike. As OP said he has no experience, and on my travels I have never heard any complaints about them. I'm sorry if surly is to "main stream" for you autists, but they do make really good touring bikes. I would also suggest the TREK 520 and Kona Sutra. OP don't listen memes and don't take a chance on the next 6 month of your life.
