>>1347556I disagree with the other anons.
Those two bikes have exactly the same geometry.
The claris one hasn't cheaped out on no-name brakes or crank like they often do.
I think it's a very good bike for a beginner.
Claris is very good.
Modern allum/carbon fork is very good.
Better, wider, tyres off the bat would make a big difference. 28 or 32mm gpk5. And if you wanted to upgrade it more later, you could get some nice wheels.
The carbon frame one would have a slightly smoother ride, yes, but what tyres you run will make much more of a difference. Yes it's nicer to be lighter, but it's not a huge deal. The gearing probably won't matter much to you nor will the stiffness. You won't really be getting parts which are more durable, or fundamentally more modern.
It's worth buying the more expensive one if you want something really nice but is it twice as good? Is it really worth twice as much? No. It's like 15% better.
