>>1854624https://www.bikeforums.net/sale/1256101-fs-57cm-lemond-buenos-aires-853-steel.htmlhow about this anon? 853 steel, so high end. Comes with steel fork (i would just ride the carbon one until you one day put the bike down/crash it and then swap). Threadless. Full build for your frame budget.
Hell if you're a flatlander looking to just zoom along, do you care about sprinting power? You could even just buy a nice classic bike with a quill stem if you want steel. That opens up way more options and brings the budget down. In a line with nice wheels/tires it will be just as fast, only suffer out of the saddle trying to throw it around because not as stiff at the front
I don't not see why someone would want to spend $500 on a chinkshit 4130 frame but also i don't see why someone would want to spend $500 on a chinkshit 4130 frame.