>>1178770Yeah, pre-2012 Red, he's even including the rim brakes even though they won't work with the frame. It is kind of strange, I plan on using it for around town trips this spring and summer, and then putting knobbly tires on it for cross in the fall. The frame is a custom alu job made by some shop in Chicago around 2013. Seller claims it's a 54, but honestly it looks similar to my 48 CAADX I owned a few years ago. Either way, I should be able to get it to fit me.