>>1361278>no, you really can't.>What you're buying is *counterfeit*, and likely they cut corners in some significant way (materials, construction technique, overall quality control) that will cause your counterfeit frameset to fail catastrophically. This is where the pics come from of CF frames that (for instance) the bottom bracket literally broke off it.>you take your life in your hands when you buy this cheap knock-off shit from China, you really do.I've been riding a 1kg cyclocross frame from China, hard, for 2 years. Sure their quality control isnt as rigorous but don't forget that many many brands buy the exact same frame from Taiwan or China and slap their logos on it, for example in the UK the budget brands Planet X and On-One, who are hugely popular. They basically act as resellers but the boomers who patronize them cant tell or don't care. I have never heard of a decent, long established chinesium frame dying, but I have heard and seen plenty of bomber incredibly light builds using them, by experienced cyclists. Are there risks? Yes. Does that mean they're categorically unsafe and low quality? Not at all.
Half or more of the price of a western frame is the design, copyright, paintjob with a good amount of marketing. China cuts this out by dabbing on them and often using the same factories, workers and molds to make clones.
