>>1796083You stupid faggot do you think I haven't considered any of that? There are pros and cons to any lifestyle, which I have weighed accordingly. People who want a car-free lifestyle aren't asking for the end of cars, or even a reduction in cars. This isn't a zero sum game; car-free communities can exist alongside your cager havens! Patronizing with your "oh baby u will have to take the bus" and "oh honey other people actually enjoy driving" is insulting. The point OP is trying to make is that there's NO ALTERNATIVE to the current car-centric system. Sure, some people may really really enjoy driving, and I don't want to take that away from anybody. But some of us don't care and wish we could do without you and your lifestyle, unfairly forced upon us. Fuck you.