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dad, am i a man now? did i done good for you? it's practical daddy. it's steel. panniers aren't practical. not in the rear. what if u have to race away from a giant flaming boulder and get snagged on sum branches? you gotta be practical daddy. daddy I need $4k I spent my tuition payments on a bike. no daddy I don't want kids I am a rugged man who is gonna see the world on this bike or at least post it on the internet for a bunch of other men for their approbal