>>1513224what's cheaper: a nice carbon bike with tubeless at 70PSI that rides like a cloud and fits properly so you can use a normal fucking saddle, or a dumpster dive torture device on 700x19 clinchers inflated to 160 PSI that's three sizes too big and requires an antique preserved dead animal suspended on bungee cords in order to even roll over the slightest crack without causing permanent prostate damage?