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>A good source witnessed a result of a PC train made up of box cars coming from Tiffin, OH that was heading NE towards Sandusky, OH on the ex-Big 4 route, w/ a PC GP9 on the lead. There was some major mis-communication that day (or forgetfulness!) between the PC people, in Dec 1973/Jan 1974. No one told the crew that the rails were torn up previously by the NYC or PC on the farther part of the line- before Sandusky, so they ended up plowing through a pile of ties and dirt at the end of the tracks, and rolled about 4 to 5 car lengths on the frozen ground of the old right-of-way where the tracks use to be. A PC train rolling across the ground-they were way ahead of their time using no rails hah!