>>1233847>>You tell me - pic related>Not that much climbing, not sure how steep it was.Pic related. By no means that is hardcore climbing or anything. But there are places where you need to work for that 20mph average.
>Road cyclists are more focused on cadence than MTB-riders and shimano still builds their top of the range MTB-groupset as 2xIrrelevant. That groupset will soon not be mountable to 99% of new bikes. My Mondraker won't accept a FD no matter what sorcery I do to mount it and its 2 years old. Besides. You still fail to get my point.
It is: _Regardless_ how useful a double/triple is, the added simplicity and ergonomics of having to worry about only one shifter will sell 95% of riders to the first workable 1x on road is going to sell boatloads. I ofrsee that is going to happen with 13 speed, when you'll get 95% of range and dense high gears.
2x is just as useful on MTB as it is on road. It offers the same advantages and in the mid/low end it is often lighter then 1x. 99% of riders don't care.
>Only for riders of the "fastest" generation with long cranks and smaller outside diameter wheels due to the narrow tires back then.It was 2007-08 mate. I still remember a discussion with a guy who would claim that he is fine with his "mountain" setup of 53/39 + 11-25.
>Asking for the source was for the weight difference, not about running non-clutched rears.>The Force 1 rear mech is more expensive but not as expensive as red. However, at $231 vs $91 there is a substantial price difference of >$138.>261g Force 1 clutch mech>187g Force wi-fli mech>+74gIn that example, remaining with non-clutched version saves $138 and 74g. Making 1x lighter and cheaper.
