>>2030358>And do you know the difference between Surly and Maxway or QBC?Yes. So what?
Nobody is pretending Surly is a boutique brand.
Design, qc, testing, and support are real things though.
Practically every high end trek, specialized, etc, will be made in the same taiwanese mega factories by Giant or Merida.
It doesn't mean that all bicycles are the same or that brands of bicycles are redundant just because they contract production and have corporate overlords.
>Canada>USA>England>Scotland>Australia >Japan>Italy>France>Belgium I own steel bikes built in all those countries. It's not that I don't believe in or know about fancy stuff.
Surly hate just particularly annoys me.