>>1305444the biggest problem i find with traditional style pedals alone, or with half-clips, or cages, is that unless you're wearing hard soled cleated trad leather shoes, if you're wearing anything which has good grip and thin enough soles to not fuck your crank length, and is actually good off the bike (onitsuka tigers & fieyues are my favorite), then the front ridge of the pedal digs into your shoe on long hard rides and creates a hotspot. So I really don't think they're suited to any kind of serious riding.
You get hotspots with pinned flats on very long rides too, that was my main problem touring with them, I actually had to stop and borrow and angle grinder and take the pins down a little, but it's less of a problem.
It's slightly absurd that you're arguing over the merits of half clips vs pinned flats for 'serious' riding. Clipless are vastly superior for that.
